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post Sep 11 2011, 11:59 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism


Basically, the idea is that through technology - we could achieve our own self-determined evolution (of a sorts). I've always read bits and pieces of books and articles on it, but after Deus Ex: Human Revolution, it really actually got me thinking on it.


My idea is that 'Human' is determined by experience and perspective, and our physical form really has nothing to do with it. I mean, if I could get a neural implant so I could accelerate my consciousness to four or five times that of my normal state, I would. I think it could better help me (us) understand our existence, while getting rid of some of the debilitating aspects of it. I also believe that if a limb could be produced that would perfectly imitate a human counterpart, or an organ for that matter - you could eliminate countless medical problems with that alone.

What about you? Is being 'Human' determined by a natural state of what the body chooses to do, or is 'Human' a state of mind and perspective?
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post Sep 12 2011, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Sep 11 2011, 06:59 PM) *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism


Basically, the idea is that through technology - we could achieve our own self-determined evolution (of a sorts). I've always read bits and pieces of books and articles on it, but after Deus Ex: Human Revolution, it really actually got me thinking on it.


My idea is that 'Human' is determined by experience and perspective, and our physical form really has nothing to do with it. I mean, if I could get a neural implant so I could accelerate my consciousness to four or five times that of my normal state, I would. I think it could better help me (us) understand our existence, while getting rid of some of the debilitating aspects of it. I also believe that if a limb could be produced that would perfectly imitate a human counterpart, or an organ for that matter - you could eliminate countless medical problems with that alone.

What about you? Is being 'Human' determined by a natural state of what the body chooses to do, or is 'Human' a state of mind and perspective?


To me I think human as to be the form. Dog, cat, bear, wolf, those are all forms. I choose to believe kind of with the id, ego, and super-ego. Which the easiest way to place this is... Yep you guessed the the Elric brothers! Tho Ed has a mechanical arm it enhances some things in his life but doesn't change who he is, same with Al who is a full suit of armor where his soul was attached to it by a symbol. Which he can't really die unless the symbol is destroyed, so it would be the soul that commands the body which is in the form of a human to dictate what the body does.


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post Sep 12 2011, 12:24 AM
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Great Topic!

IMO, being human, is being able to do logical reasoning, to know what's correct, from whatever is point of view is, it doesn't anything to do with the body .

but in other hand i think Transhumanism, might take away the magic of somethings, imagine:
i am sloppy guitar player, and i want to be bettar, but instead of training i will just replace my hands for some robotic form of paul gilbert hands q:!

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post Sep 12 2011, 12:40 AM
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Yes from a guitarist point of view it could be bad. Although advanced playing would be easily attained, that still does not make you a good songwriter - I dont see how they can program creativity without natural or synthetic sentience (the mind/ brain)
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post Sep 12 2011, 03:32 AM
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I think some mechanical abilities could be improved through technology, in fact, many robots take care of jobs only humans could do a few decades ago. I even met someone who was working in a device to give sight to the partially blind by implanting a mechanical connector in the eye that would connect it to the brain.

Inside the human body there could be enhancements that make our strength and mathematical thinking a lot more powerful (computers, cars, etc.)

But I think things like creativity are impossible to enhance because the source of, say, "David" by Michel Angelo cannot have been done by an artificial artifact, or say, "Purple haze" by Jimi H. because all these ideas came from a specific context, moment and individual's sensitivity.





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post Sep 12 2011, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Sep 11 2011, 10:32 PM) *
But I think things like creativity are impossible to enhance because the source of, say, "David" by Michel Angelo cannot have been done by an artificial artifact, or say, "Purple haze" by Jimi H. because all these ideas came from a specific context, moment and individual's sensitivity.


Exactly, I do however believe a merging of man and machine could drastically enhance our creativity. I mean, imagine what you could dream of musically if you could clearly think about several hundreds of layers of individual ideas? I think it would be great personally, maybe then I could write something as awesome as Dance Of Eternity laugh.gif
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post Sep 12 2011, 04:59 AM
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ahah i feel like playing Deus Ex again tongue.gif


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post Sep 12 2011, 09:22 PM
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Yeah I'm almost finished with my 2nd run through now, Love the game.
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