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post Sep 15 2011, 06:58 AM
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Hi biggrin.gif
I was thinking about getting this done, does anyone know any reputable places in the UK that will do it?

Honestly can't believe I am considering this, I signed up here looking to improve my blues improv!
Ho-hum, on with the neo classical shredfest.

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post Sep 15 2011, 07:43 AM
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Hey mate, i have a scalloped fingerboard, and it's amazing. So many benifits of playing it. Does take a few hours/days to get use to it. but bending and vibrato are (in my opinion) eaiser but overall playing is a bit slower a first.

Go for it!

Have u looked at Warmoth? Ordering a custom neck, and just bolting it on to your strat? Saves risking your strat neck....


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post Sep 15 2011, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Sep 15 2011, 08:43 AM) *
Have u looked at Warmoth? Ordering a custom neck, and just bolting it on to your strat? Saves risking your strat neck....


This seems like an interesting option as well Frankie. At some point you may want to have your old neck the way it was, so having another neck, if the budget allows it would be a better option indeed. Not sure how much it is expensive then having a scalloped job done, usually scalloping is around 60-120 pounds, the prices vary a lot, and for Strat necks with full scalloped Warmooth neck can cost you some 120-150 pounds.



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post Sep 15 2011, 10:25 AM
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Oooh, interesting.
I checked out the Warmoth site and the cheapest I can seem to get a scalloped neck is about £240!
I must be doing something different. Ivan - can you tell me where on the site you found a neck at this price?

Thanks for all your help guys, if I can get a new neck for this money I think that is the best option.
I am not adverse to tinkering with my guitar, in fact I was thinking about writing a wiki article about the guitar setup kit I created - but my strat has a lovely neck and I don't fancy taking a file to it!

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post Sep 15 2011, 10:26 AM
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If you get the chance try and find a music shop that stocks a guitar with a scalloped neck and try it out first. It might not be for everyone. Then if it were me, I'd probably look into the replacement neck option that Ivan and Jax were mentioning just in case you decide to go back to your original neck.

You definitely will be able to adapt and play just fine with a scalloped neck but I'm not sure if the vibrato and bending aspects couldn't be achieved on a normal neck anyway.. I can't answer that one smile.gif Jax will be able to answer that one !

They do look amazingly good though, if nothing else ! cool.gif


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post Sep 15 2011, 10:41 AM
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If you search this site for "Marcus Lavendall" and "scalloped" you will find the great man himself commenting on the pro's and con's of using a scalloped fingerboard. Also the crazy Kristofer Dahl has a scalloped neck and comments on the same thread.

There is nothing you can't do on a normal neck compared to a scalloped neck. If anything it's a fantastic training tool for finger strength/bending/vibrato.
I love how you can get under the strings and bend them, like butter....

The last Video chat i was attending w/ Kristofer he commented on the neck and mentioned that legato was "smoother" i believe...but dont quote me on that.

If you go to the neck builder option on the warmoth site, and attempt to choose the cheapest options....or if they have a scalloped neck in stock, ready made, that will be the cheapest way to get one. Warmoth have fantastic quality parts also.


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post Sep 15 2011, 10:54 AM
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Here's an option on eBay for slightly less then 199 pounds:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-Fender-License...=item2eb7b27677


On Warmoth site you can check out full scalloped necks in stocks here:

http://www.warmoth.com/Pages/ClassicShowca...&sort=price

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post Sep 15 2011, 10:58 AM
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Guys, stop it.. you're making me want one now ! Scalloped neck in maple for me biggrin.gif


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post Sep 15 2011, 12:52 PM
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Looks like you have to level the frets and remove the finish from them yourself if you order a neck from warmoth.
Also, including the price of the frets, nut and finish it comes closer to £250.
Would probably get stung on the way through UK customs for an additional 20% ( £50 ) + however much it cost to ship.
That's a whopping £300 - the equivelant price of about 100 pints of beer in this country!

It seems a lot cheaper for me to get my current neck scalloped and then if I don't like it simply buy a new one.
I found a guy in Scotland who will do it for about £140 ( around 46 pints wink.gif ) in Scotland including refinishing the fretboard.

I gotta give this some thought, in the meantime I am going to see if I can find a scalloped guitar to have a go on. Am definately going to try one before I get this done

JAX - I checked out the Marcus Lavendell posts and lessons, what an awesome player! Thanks for all your advice. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE (TesttubeMammoth @ Sep 15 2011, 11:52 AM) *
JAX - I checked out the Marcus Lavendell posts and lessons, what an awesome player! Thanks for all your advice. biggrin.gif



Happy to help mate....Marcus is amazing..... Also i am impressed that you use beer as a unit of measurement, well done wink.gif


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post Sep 15 2011, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE (TesttubeMammoth @ Sep 15 2011, 01:52 PM) *
Looks like you have to level the frets and remove the finish from them yourself if you order a neck from warmoth.
Also, including the price of the frets, nut and finish it comes closer to £250.
Would probably get stung on the way through UK customs for an additional 20% ( £50 ) + however much it cost to ship.
That's a whopping £300 - the equivelant price of about 100 pints of beer in this country!

It seems a lot cheaper for me to get my current neck scalloped and then if I don't like it simply buy a new one.
I found a guy in Scotland who will do it for about £140 ( around 46 pints wink.gif ) in Scotland including refinishing the fretboard.

I gotta give this some thought, in the meantime I am going to see if I can find a scalloped guitar to have a go on. Am definately going to try one before I get this done

JAX - I checked out the Marcus Lavendell posts and lessons, what an awesome player! Thanks for all your advice. biggrin.gif



100 pints?? ohmy.gif Oh man, that is a lot biggrin.gif Sorry about that, it turns out costs become bigger. Well, if you don't mind changing your guitar, it's a cool way to go too smile.gif




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post Sep 15 2011, 02:49 PM
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Hi there
I have a scalloped guitar.It took me only an hour or so to adapt to it.
Personally,I love it.Bending and vibrato are a lot easier but they can be achieved equally well on a normal neck.
You should note that while playing chords you have to be PRECISE. Any extra force applied with your fingers will
make the chord go out of tune.
If you're into Sitar-like sounds,you can do a lot of things with it

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post Sep 15 2011, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Sep 15 2011, 12:58 PM) *
Also i am impressed that you use beer as a unit of measurement, well done wink.gif


Yes I also like the pint reference... maybe we should all adopt that as a way of deciding what to spend our money on ! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 15 2011, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 15 2011, 06:46 PM) *
Yes I also like the pint reference... maybe we should all adopt that as a way of deciding what to spend our money on ! biggrin.gif


It is a good way of measuring currency, but not so great for measuring time.

So, after having considered the options I think the best way to go about this scalloping is to do it myself.
I contacted my local music shop and they were pretty unhelpful.
I have a couple of old guitars I use for spares so I will practice on those first and see if I like it too.

Will let you know how that pans out!


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I bet in 10 pint of beer that the scalloping job will be successful smile.gif


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post Sep 16 2011, 12:23 AM
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Good to know mate, good luck with it all..... Hopefully it only take you 6 pints to complete the job.....And by doing it yourself your saving yourself a few pints too.... Hehe all over it....



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i'd say go for it, but just if you feel that there is nothing special with your neck smile.gif


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post Sep 16 2011, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Sep 16 2011, 05:29 AM) *
i'd say go for it, but just if you feel that there is nothing special with your neck smile.gif



You know, there is something special about the neck on my strat.
Thanks for saving me from myself!
Luckily I have an ibanez s470 which has a very average neck.
Now, all this talk of pints and scallops has made me hungry - hungry for a tasty rock masterpiece the likes of which has never been seen! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 16 2011, 08:30 AM
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laugh.gif This is an awesome thread! laugh.gif I have been torturing myself for months now on whether to attack my Warmoth neck with a file or just order a new one scalloped or better yet just buy a new axe with a scalloped fretboard, I played one a few months back in a music store in Anchorage and I absolutely loved it, getting under the strings as someone else mentioned was a big reason , I have trouble from time to time loosing a string halfway thru a bend and .... well its frustrating. I dont think I would ever have that prob with the scalloped fretboard, also I thought it was extremely smooth and fast and it made me play lighter. I am definately going to get one. one way or another wink.gif
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QUOTE (AK Rich @ Sep 16 2011, 07:30 AM) *
laugh.gif This is an awesome thread! laugh.gif I have been torturing myself for months now on whether to attack my Warmoth neck with a file or just order a new one scalloped or better yet just buy a new axe with a scalloped fretboard, I played one a few months back in a music store in Anchorage and I absolutely loved it, getting under the strings as someone else mentioned was a big reason , I have trouble from time to time loosing a string halfway thru a bend and .... well its frustrating. I dont think I would ever have that prob with the scalloped fretboard, also I thought it was extremely smooth and fast and it made me play lighter. I am definately going to get one. one way or another wink.gif



Yea mate, go for it. The GRIP you have on the strings with a scalloped neck is amazing, it's just fingers and string, no wood to get in the way. You really do get 'under' the strings when bending.

I have a "Deep Scallop" on my neck.....I dont know about any other depths or anything like that, as I have only played this one....


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