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Ben Higgins
post Sep 16 2011, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Sep 16 2011, 08:38 AM) *
Yea mate, go for it. The GRIP you have on the strings with a scalloped neck is amazing, it's just fingers and string, no wood to get in the way. You really do get 'under' the strings when bending.

I have a "Deep Scallop" on my neck.....I dont know about any other depths or anything like that, as I have only played this one....


That looks sooooo good ! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 16 2011, 09:02 AM
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JAX - can you get a blues tone on that? Do you have any examples? It does look amazing...


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post Sep 16 2011, 09:41 AM
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That scallop looks awesome Jax, very neatly done. Maple fretboard scallop looks very smooth smile.gif


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post Sep 16 2011, 10:26 AM
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Cheers Ivan.....

The guitar (Scallopy) sounds very impressive. She has DiMarzio's in her..... Blues-Neck, Virtual 2 "Heavy Blues"-Middle and Virtual Solo-Bridge. Very Vesitile tone range too....

Here is a lesson i did a while back using this guitar, and a tone i made on POD farm, note that I didn't check the Intonation, so when i played this, some of the higher bends are a lil out....

Attached File  aeolianleadintermediateFINALtake_2.m4a ( 1.71MB ) Number of downloads: 41


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post Sep 16 2011, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Sep 16 2011, 10:26 AM) *
Cheers Ivan.....
Here is a lesson i did a while back using this guitar, and a tone i made on POD farm, note that I didn't check the Intonation, so when i played this, some of the higher bends are a lil out....


That sounds really good.
You're a very talented player Jax. biggrin.gif I might have to track down that lesson at some point and have a go, I like the solo a lot.

I just went out and got a round file, some needle files, sandpaper of varying grades, masking tape, exacto knife etc.
It cost me around six and a half pints. Luckily I have some old necks to practice on.

If it works I will post photos biggrin.gif, if not then let's never speak of this again!


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post Sep 16 2011, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE (TesttubeMammoth @ Sep 16 2011, 12:07 PM) *
That sounds really good.
You're a very talented player Jax. biggrin.gif I might have to track down that lesson at some point and have a go, I like the solo a lot.

I just went out and got a round file, some needle files, sandpaper of varying grades, masking tape, exacto knife etc.
It cost me around six and a half pints. Luckily I have some old necks to practice on.

If it works I will post photos biggrin.gif, if not then let's never speak of this again!



Thanks mate, I really appreciate your kind words...... Hopefully One day I will be talented.....
when i can do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7YIWOSBX_U I will be talented.

I am very interested to see how your scallop job will turn out, post your results in here or PM me....

Six and a half pints is worth spending on this, cause if it works, you'll be laughing! Good Luck mate cool.gif


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post Sep 16 2011, 06:25 PM
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Good luck mate, let us know how it went! smile.gif


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post Sep 16 2011, 09:53 PM
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Ok, first set of channels filed out, I have done the whole neck like this.
It is taking ages! Will post more pics when I finish, I think I have got the depth about right...



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post Sep 16 2011, 10:47 PM
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good luck man, it's looking good !!
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post Sep 17 2011, 06:07 AM
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woaaa, looking good man, let us know how it goes!


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post Sep 17 2011, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE (TesttubeMammoth @ Sep 16 2011, 08:53 PM) *
Ok, first set of channels filed out, I have done the whole neck like this.
It is taking ages! Will post more pics when I finish, I think I have got the depth about right...




W0W ohmy.gif you didnt waste anytime time getting on that did you? looks nice and kinda sexy actually. I wonder if the truss rod will need to be re-adjusted after taking that much wood? I will wager half a pint it does take a slight adjustment smile.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 02:25 PM
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So, it's finished.
I am quite pleased with the result, I decided to use an old washburn g5v in the end that I had been keeping for spares.

I did have several pickups but since there were no pots or a switch I decided to just install a single pickup and wire it straight into the jack socket. Neck seemed like a clear choice smile.gif
When I had finished sanding and filing I cleaned the fingerboard and then rubbed loads of lemon oil into it to darken it down.

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And here's a quick improvisation I just did so you can hear it in action (bear in mind I was making it up as I went along!):
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Was it worth it?
Well I think so - even if it was just so I could get an idea what a scalloped guitar would feel like. I didn't do a perfect job by any means and the guitar I was working with was pretty beaten up but it has given me a reasonable impression of how they feel to play.

Would I do it to my main guitar?
Hahahaha no! I would certainly not brutalize the neck of my strat like that! Even though I suspect it is a bit easier to file maple than rosewood. I would however consider buying a new neck that had been scalloped professionally funds permitting.

Cost
In the end it cost me the equivalent of 6 and a half pints to do this and probably took around 6 hours.

Hope you guys found this as interesting as I did!

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post Sep 18 2011, 09:37 PM
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Hey Frankie, great job !! And yes it does sound nice... have you noticed any advantages with performing vibrato and bends ? smile.gif


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post Sep 18 2011, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 18 2011, 09:37 PM) *
Hey Frankie, great job !! And yes it does sound nice... have you noticed any advantages with performing vibrato and bends ? smile.gif


Hey Ben,
Since I spent so much time playing bass in the past vibrato is something that I have never really worked on (saying that, I am practicing your vibrato oddesy lesson 2 at the moment - muchos gracias smile.gif ).
I can't say that it has improved my vibrato - I can bend higher much more easily though.
To be honest, the result wasn't at all what I expected.
I guess I expected to be able to push the string right down to the fingerboard really easily. This isn't the case.
Instead when you fret it feels quite alien, like you have the option to push the string in further if you want to but they are still quite rigid bridging the frets.
Trying to play quick economy picking feels strange too, probably because I am not used to it.

I guess what I am trying to say is that it isn't any better or worse, I can play chords fine without going out of tune - it's just a different feel.
I would recommend having a go on one before comitting to buying one though, just because it is so different. I don't think many guitars have scalloped fretboards though, apart from the Yngwie and Ritchie Blackmore strats and I believe the Ibanez Jem has a partial scallop too.

Well worth a go. Maybe I'll try and do some comparisons between the Washburn and my Strat at some point when I get better at this whole vibrato thing smile.gif





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post Sep 19 2011, 05:43 AM
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great work man, it does sound good too, i got inspired by your experience, and i will partially do it on my signature model, just from the fret 19 until the 22, i think it's going to be a nice feature, thanks!


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post Sep 19 2011, 11:40 AM
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Looks exotic, thank you for pictures and fair review smile.gif!


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post Sep 19 2011, 04:57 PM
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hey Frankie! this is a great post. I think that you did a great job and it's really amazing to see the progress here. I had a guitar teacher (the one that helped me with the neoclassical stuff) that has some scalloped guitar and they feel really good for vibrato and bending. I have never had one but I use to play a lot on his guitars.


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post Sep 19 2011, 08:22 PM
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Thanks guys - yeah it didn't turn out too bad. I certainly didn't make that guitar any worse!
Good luck with your guitar Adrian, you have probably picked the best frets to scallop. Because you only have to file out small channels it should be much quicker for you. Let us know how it turns out smile.gif


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post Sep 20 2011, 06:15 AM
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fure sure man, gladly i'm not going to make the holes biggrin.gif


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post Sep 20 2011, 01:44 PM
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Hey mate, how it going? Well done on the job...A simple question turned into a informative thread and a review!
This will help others who are considering to do the same and try out a scalloped guitar.\

I hope it helps with your playing and advancing you as much as possible...bend and vibrato that bad boy till the sun comes up.... tongue.gif

When i forst got mine, i put heavier guage string on her and utilised the rigid/solid feel of the strings to help my fingers build up strength....It smashed my fingertips and the actual fingers...After a while i got used to it and it did wonders for my strength.

And yours only came at the cost of a few Pints....Win!

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