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post Oct 6 2011, 10:46 PM
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Hey guys !!
I have finally chosen my three competitors for my second guitar.
I wanted to ask which of these is the better guitar ! and here they are:
EPIPHONE LES PAUL STANDARD
EPIPHONE LES PAUL CUSTOM
FENDER STANDARD TELECASTER
So yea il appreciate your help guys ! biggrin.gif

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post Oct 6 2011, 11:02 PM
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LPs and Teles are very different. LPs have humbuckers, with thick tone, great for distortion and "fuller" cleans, while teles (usually) have single coils, which are more twangy, bright and thin.

LPs are heavy, and have a harder reach to higher frets. Teles are medium weight and have better access to higher frets.

The biggest problem of epiphones is their stock pickups are usually quite weak, I mean they don't have the real punch of good humbuckers, they are quite mild, cheap, toy sounding. Their wood is also much worse than that on gibsons (they weight much less than their gibson versions, and are usually less balanced, though on LP models that would be less noticiable than on SGs).

All in all, there's no right answer here. You need to play a few songs with each guitar, seee if they have the tone you seek.

In that price range I probably would get neither, but a mexican strat. More versatile, but that's just me. I had a Tele, never liked it.

Best deal for few bucks would probably be getting a second hand gibson SG, faded one. Then again maybe you don't like SGs... Or save a bit more and get a second hand LP Studio, those rock for their price.


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post Oct 6 2011, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE (Fran @ Oct 6 2011, 10:02 PM) *
LPs and Teles are very different. LPs have humbuckers, with thick tone, great for distortion and "fuller" cleans, while teles (usually) have single coils, which are more twangy, bright and thin.

LPs are heavy, and have a harder reach to higher frets. Teles are medium weight and have better access to higher frets.

The biggest problem of epiphones is their stock pickups are usually quite weak, I mean they don't have the real punch of good humbuckers, they are quite mild, cheap, toy sounding. Their wood is also much worse than that on gibsons (they weight much less than their gibson versions, and are usually less balanced, though on LP models that would be less noticiable than on SGs).

All in all, there's no right answer here. You need to play a few songs with each guitar, seee if they have the tone you seek.

In that price range I probably would get neither, but a mexican strat. More versatile, but that's just me. I had a Tele, never liked it.

Best deal for few bucks would probably be getting a second hand gibson SG, faded one. Then again maybe you don't like SGs... Or save a bit more and get a second hand LP Studio, those rock for their price.

Hm i see !
thanks alot for the reply biggrin.gif and You mean second hand epi les paul studio or gibson les paul studio ?
Oh and on more thing. Mexican Strat As in the Standard Fender Stratocaster ?
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post Oct 6 2011, 11:27 PM
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I'm a Gibson les Paul standard dc player, I love it to bits, good feeling, clean and smooth tone. Best for blues, but good all rounder guitar. However the epiphones are the cheap builds with lower quality materials and pickups. Same like ESP vs ESP ltd, I wouldn't compare them as the same. If your smart you could get it cheap and get new pickups installed but you still lose out on the quality wood which give it that quality tone with the pickups.

The fender would probably be the better option in the case, but try them out and see what feels best.


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post Oct 6 2011, 11:30 PM
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While Gibson and Epiphone don't generally compare, I've heard great things about the Epiphone Elitist, if you can get your hands on one of those.


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post Oct 7 2011, 03:56 AM
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Just curious, what makes you want to diverge from Ibanez (like you said you have already)? Ibanez are pretty good bang for the buck in almost every model, at least I find. I got a LP after playing a strat & ibanez types for a while and I found it was very hard to adjust to it.

You can get a pretty decent guitar on Ebay (if you can trust them). I got my RG2610 (w/ the pickup in my sig) for $650. Keep in mind, that guitar is still selling (4 years later) for $1200-1300 new on ebay, plus shipping. There is definitely a recession on the US, time to get some cheap deals buying used if you have your cash saved. smile.gif


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post Oct 7 2011, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (Sircraigery @ Oct 7 2011, 02:56 AM) *
Just curious, what makes you want to diverge from Ibanez (like you said you have already)? Ibanez are pretty good bang for the buck in almost every model, at least I find. I got a LP after playing a strat & ibanez types for a while and I found it was very hard to adjust to it.

You can get a pretty decent guitar on Ebay (if you can trust them). I got my RG2610 (w/ the pickup in my sig) for $650. Keep in mind, that guitar is still selling (4 years later) for $1200-1300 new on ebay, plus shipping. There is definitely a recession on the US, time to get some cheap deals buying used if you have your cash saved. smile.gif

Well I didn't really diverge from ibanez ! i love ibanez guitars alot ! but in my country you cant find those great ibanez guitars that you see on the internet. But yeah do ebay ship to egypt ??

Oh and thanks everybody who took the time to help me out ! biggrin.gif
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post Oct 7 2011, 11:03 AM
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Mate, as the guys said, Gibson style guitars are VERY different from Teles, regarding sound, feel, weight ... Now it depends what you need from your guitar smile.gif it all goes down to that wink.gif

I would love a Telecaster, so, but in the same time I have everything I need from my other guitars, in respect to the stuff I'm playing ONSTAGE. A Telecaster would be a thing which I could use at home for the moment wink.gif although i have a friend who tuned his tele to drop C and it sounds KILLER!! biggrin.gif


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post Oct 7 2011, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 7 2011, 10:03 AM) *
Mate, as the guys said, Gibson style guitars are VERY different from Teles, regarding sound, feel, weight ... Now it depends what you need from your guitar smile.gif it all goes down to that wink.gif

I would love a Telecaster, so, but in the same time I have everything I need from my other guitars, in respect to the stuff I'm playing ONSTAGE. A Telecaster would be a thing which I could use at home for the moment wink.gif although i have a friend who tuned his tele to drop C and it sounds KILLER!! biggrin.gif

Oh i see haha biggrin.gif
well im still really trying to figure out what i need =/
maybe a strat, maybe a epiphone or maybe a gibson melody maker and finally maybe a tele xD
still really hard to decide because i dont want to make the wrong choice biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (bibomoris @ Oct 7 2011, 10:09 AM) *
Oh i see haha biggrin.gif
well im still really trying to figure out what i need =/
maybe a strat, maybe a epiphone or maybe a gibson melody maker and finally maybe a tele xD
still really hard to decide because i dont want to make the wrong choice biggrin.gif


You can't go wrong once you know what you want the guitar for smile.gif so think about the following aspects:

- what styles do i like to play?
- what's my budget?
- what kind of guitars are suitable for my hands/ body?


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post Oct 7 2011, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (bibomoris @ Oct 7 2011, 12:07 AM) *
Hm i see !
thanks alot for the reply biggrin.gif and You mean second hand epi les paul studio or gibson les paul studio ?
Oh and on more thing. Mexican Strat As in the Standard Fender Stratocaster ?


I meant a second hand Gibson LP Studio.
Yeah, the mex strat is teh standard (non US) strat.

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You can get a pretty decent guitar on Ebay (if you can trust them). I got my RG2610 (w/ the pickup in my sig) for $650. Keep in mind, that guitar is still selling (4 years later) for $1200-1300 new on ebay, plus shipping. There is definitely a recession on the US, time to get some cheap deals buying used if you have your cash saved. smile.gif


+1 japanesse made Ibanez guitars are amazing.


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post Oct 7 2011, 03:51 PM
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If I would choose a guitar, I would rather choose US Standard Tele then Epi LP of any kind, US Tele is an awesome guitar for the buck.

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i think it's about the tone man, what kind of tone do you wanna get?


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yeah, everybody here is right about the big difference in feel and tone between Tele and Les Paul.






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Well im more of a metal-ish music listener and i really like blues as well so yeah and my budget is 800 dollars max

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The Fender Telecaster is a good axe, not sure for metal, but it can american rock nicely.

If getting Ibanez get one from the RG Prestige series are great for rock/metal/blues, they are quite good.

If getting a Gibson, best for blues but great allrounder rock/metal, you could look second hand, just make sure your careful. Gibson quality can vary from guitar to guitar as their quality control isn't the best, but you get an unique quality from each, also what's the reason for the sell, ensure nothings wrong with it.


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post Oct 7 2011, 11:58 PM
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Yeah I suppose shipping would be expensive to Egypt, from North America.....
Does ebay have a euro site? That might not be as bad.


I would stick with Ibanez, or you could probably get a Japanese Fender since you are closer.


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post Oct 8 2011, 11:27 AM
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Hmm i see thanks for the tips biggrin.gif
and yes i know the shipping is very expensive il check if they have a European site smile.gif
I always wanted to stay with Ibanez but the problem is i don't know any good models.
any idea's ? and if so my budget is 800 dollars max.
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