No Taste On Arpeggios
Ferning78
Oct 12 2011, 01:59 AM
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Hi there, my name is Fernando, i'm from Spain. Sorry for my bad english,

You guys are awesome, this is the very best site for a guitarrist to grow up.

Now I'm on the arpeggios stuff. I was learning all the boxes and i would like to play them on jazz and fusion jazz.



On this video, you'll listen my first arpeggios on a real demo. Very lineal, you see. I want to play slow but with a non-predectible sound and i don't find a progressive slow method to add cromatism and taste to get a better jazzy sound and picking. Almost all the lessons i've watching talk about sweep, shred, or find alternative boxes and that's great but maybe those aren't my bussiness for now...

Can you help me?

Thank you so much!!!!

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Oct 12 2011, 03:06 AM
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have you searched for jazz arpeggios

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Cosmin Lupu
Oct 12 2011, 10:49 AM
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Fernando, I would think like this:

- find the arpeggios which work over the chord progression
- explore them until you can mix the notes, descend and ascend them in any way you wish
- use various rhythmic patterns (triplets, 16th notes, quintuplets..etc.)

Do NOT look at them as positions but as note successions smile.gif in that way you shall be able to play what's in your head, not a particular position wink.gif

I hope this helps!

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Oct 12 2011, 12:09 PM
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The reason your sweeps sound a bit predictable is because you play most of the arpeggio in the same direction, one note of the arpeggio after the other.

Try to break the arpeggio up into smaller sections, or go outside of the arpeggio through chromaticism (although don't land on these notes).

When people learn arpeggio shapes, they'll just play the whole shape up and down, not varying anything, and hence, they all sound the same.

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Daniel Realpe
Oct 12 2011, 04:04 PM
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I think the main problem is rhythm. Meaning, it's easy to predict the rhythm because you use the same many times. Try using another rhythm value like triplets, and also silences. And not every note has to last the same value, stay in one for longer and then move on to the others.

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Gabriel Leopardi
Oct 12 2011, 05:09 PM
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Random notes playing is a good way to start to avoid sounding like if you were practising arpeggio positions. Practice it as an exercise and try to incorporate the sound of the notes in your mind. Once you could connect your mind with your guitar you'll get as predictable or unpredictable as you decide.

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Amir Razmara
Oct 12 2011, 06:27 PM
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HI Ferning78

To me this piece, being (1:10) length wise, is a nice introduction to something. There is a good feel and vibe here & I like it. If you were to develop it in to a longer piece you would probably have to do variations with the arpeggios to create interest, but so far sounds interesting.
Always remember the saying "Less is More" and here although the arpeggios point to the same direction, they built expectation in the listeners ear and also because you don't change too much from the get go you end up creating a coherence and unity in this piece.

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Ferning78
Oct 12 2011, 06:40 PM
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Thank you to everyone, guys, you rock

I will try all your concepts, and begin with discovering new rhythmic patterns. I must work hard!!!

See you soon! Nos vemos amigos!

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Ivan Milenkovic
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Well, here you use mostly bluesy pentatonic licks, not too many arpeggiated lines. Perhaps you can try to work out arpeggios over chord progressions more? Check out my arpeggio workshop series, perhaps you'll get some ideas.

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QUOTE (Ferning78 @ Oct 12 2011, 01:40 PM) *
Thank you to everyone, guys, you rock

I will try all your concepts, and begin with discovering new rhythmic patterns. I must work hard!!!

See you soon! Nos vemos amigos!


Also, play around and see if you can find patterns that work, even if they are not quite the notes in a given scale. Follow your ear and let it guide you. This doesn't work all the time, and not for everything. But sometimes, turning off your brain and turning up your ears can really help.

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