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lindman
post Dec 15 2011, 12:01 AM
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I have a question about the Triads.

if I should make a triad in C Major ionian , then it becomes C , E , G

but if I would like to make one of the mixolydian it also ending up with C , E , G

should i choose the tones that stand out instead of sticking to 1,3,5 ?




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dark dude
post Dec 15 2011, 12:27 AM
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If you want the characterstic sound of a specific mode, you're going to have to use its specific 'stand out' intervals , yes smile.gif

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post Dec 15 2011, 04:20 AM
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If you're just making triads starting from the root, then all the major triads in a key will be the same. However if you have a bass player playing the C root you can play an E diminished triad ( E, G, Bb) and you will get the C mixolydian sound.

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post Dec 15 2011, 05:08 PM
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One important thing about triads is that:

each triad appears in 3 different keys



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post Dec 15 2011, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (dark dude @ Dec 15 2011, 12:27 AM) *
If you want the characterstic sound of a specific mode, you're going to have to use its specific 'stand out' intervals , yes smile.gif



QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Dec 15 2011, 04:20 AM) *
If you're just making triads starting from the root, then all the major triads in a key will be the same. However if you have a bass player playing the C root you can play an E diminished triad ( E, G, Bb) and you will get the C mixolydian sound.



QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Dec 15 2011, 05:08 PM) *
One important thing about triads is that:

each triad appears in 3 different keys


Thanks for the answers! So if I want to make a C mixolydian triad , can take C , E , A# is that correct ? But if i want to make a full chord of it how do i do that with all the strings ? or 5 strings ringing

Hmm I think I've figured out how to do now , the important thing is that you have the strong tones with and that they are major or minor .

Am i thinking right? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 16 2011, 04:08 AM
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QUOTE (lindman @ Dec 15 2011, 09:49 PM) *
Thanks for the answers! So if I want to make a C mixolydian triad , can take C , E , A# is that correct ? But if i want to make a full chord of it how do i do that with all the strings ? or 5 strings ringing

Hmm I think I've figured out how to do now , the important thing is that you have the strong tones with and that they are major or minor .

Am i thinking right? biggrin.gif


Basically, the two strongest intervals that define the sound of a chord are the 3rd and 7th. The 3rd makes it major or minor (the minor 3rd is 3 half steps from the root, the major 3rd is 4 half steps from the root). The 7th, if you choose to play it, makes the chord no longer a triad as a triad is Root, 3rd, and 5th and the 7th makes it a 4 note chord. The flat 7 however is necessary if you want the mixolydian sound.

Mixolydian is the 5th mode in the major scale so the chord that goes with it is the 5th chord in the chord scale, which is a 7 chord. So if you want to play a C7 chord, the notes will be C, E, G, Bb. This will mean you are playing in the key of F major as C is the 5th interval of F.

You can play a C7 in many places on the neck. Try the bar chord version, which is 5th string, 3rd fret (use your index finger and bar all strings) then ring finger on 4th string, 5th fret and pinky finger on 2nd string, 5th fret.


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post Dec 17 2011, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Dec 16 2011, 04:08 AM) *
Basically, the two strongest intervals that define the sound of a chord are the 3rd and 7th. The 3rd makes it major or minor (the minor 3rd is 3 half steps from the root, the major 3rd is 4 half steps from the root). The 7th, if you choose to play it, makes the chord no longer a triad as a triad is Root, 3rd, and 5th and the 7th makes it a 4 note chord. The flat 7 however is necessary if you want the mixolydian sound.

Mixolydian is the 5th mode in the major scale so the chord that goes with it is the 5th chord in the chord scale, which is a 7 chord. So if you want to play a C7 chord, the notes will be C, E, G, Bb. This will mean you are playing in the key of F major as C is the 5th interval of F.

You can play a C7 in many places on the neck. Try the bar chord version, which is 5th string, 3rd fret (use your index finger and bar all strings) then ring finger on 4th string, 5th fret and pinky finger on 2nd string, 5th fret.



Thank you for taking the time to explain this ! have thought about this a long time, but now I understand =)
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