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Hemlok
post May 26 2007, 04:24 AM
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Im going to be buying a new amp in about 3 weeks, im looking to spend under $1500 and hopefully get myself a decent amp that i wont need to upgrade for a long time. Blues and Metal are what i will be mostly playing, my guitar i have now is a Jackson Warrior, but i will have a Gibson Les Paul Standard in 3 weeks smile.gif

I was originally thinking Line 6 Spider III, but i hear lots people saying it sounds too digital and the presets are a bit crappy, i already own a Boss GT-6 FX Processor which gives me all the effects i need, so i guess i should go for a quality amp without paying for all the extras. Marshall amps, i dont know too much about the diff types, but if you guys have any suggestions i will jot em down and test them out biggrin.gif will save me testing every amp in store as i dont have time for that

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post May 26 2007, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (Hemlok @ May 25 2007, 11:24 PM) *
Im going to be buying a new amp in about 3 weeks, im looking to spend under $1500 and hopefully get myself a decent amp that i wont need to upgrade for a long time. Blues and Metal are what i will be mostly playing, my guitar i have now is a Jackson Warrior, but i will have a Gibson Les Paul Standard in 3 weeks smile.gif

I was originally thinking Line 6 Spider III, but i hear lots people saying it sounds too digital and the presets are a bit crappy, i already own a Boss GT-6 FX Processor which gives me all the effects i need, so i guess i should go for a quality amp without paying for all the extras. Marshall amps, i dont know too much about the diff types, but if you guys have any suggestions i will jot em down and test them out biggrin.gif will save me testing every amp in store as i dont have time for that


Line6 stuff is great if you buy into the digital thing (I do) - don't dismiss it without trying it, the versatility of these amps is amazing. If YOU listen to it and think it sounds crappy and digital, fair enough, but make it YOUR choice. I have the Line6 PodXTL and it has a lot of the same innards as the Line 6 amps - I think it rocks.

I would say make a short list of 2 - 3 amps (including the Spider if you still think its a good buy) then try them all.


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post May 26 2007, 01:56 PM
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Hmmmm, yes i have been thinking of a few diff amps to test, i might also look into what the PodXTL actually is. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Hemlok @ May 26 2007, 08:56 AM) *
Hmmmm, yes i have been thinking of a few diff amps to test, i might also look into what the PodXTL actually is. smile.gif


LOL - its an all in one effects processor that includes about the best amp modelling software out there - it also doubles as a high quality recording interface. To get the best out if it live you need to feed it through a clean AMP like a keyboard amp or PA, NOT a guitar amp (as it already does all the modelling for you so you don't need an AMP to add character). Its also awesome for practice as it sounds amazing through headphones.

The whole Line 6 / Digital thing seems to polarise people. Some love it, some hate it. I honestly don't know if the modelling is as good as the real thing as I don't have a valve Amp, which is why I say its a great alternative, but you have to make the final choice, as anyone advising for or against it is likely biased, and at the end, you are the one that needs to be happy with it not them.

FWIW, having been on this forum for a while and after several threads with MikeM, I have decided I want to own both - eventually I'll get a monster tube amp and rack of analogue pedals so that I can pick and choose what I use where.


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well POD xtlive looks pretty darn cool, but i think that will be something i will get later down the track, im getting my dream guitar soon, and it has been in many of my dreams lately hehe, well they are more like nightmares, with happy endings of me owning a les paul std.


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QUOTE (Hemlok @ May 26 2007, 09:30 AM) *
well POD xtlive looks pretty darn cool, but i think that will be something i will get later down the track, im getting my dream guitar soon, and it has been in many of my dreams lately hehe, well they are more like nightmares, with happy endings of me owning a les paul std.


LOL - sweet guitar - hope you enjoy it smile.gif


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Hey Hemlock-thats a good amount of cash.

I highly reccomend the 'Fuchs' amps. Just bought a lucky 7 and its fantastic, but for that amoun t of cash you could go higher i think.

Heres the website:

www.fuchsaudiotechnology.com


Im not sure they are that 'metal' but they have incredible tone and are all valve.

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QUOTE (benhowell @ May 26 2007, 11:58 PM) *
Hey Hemlock-thats a good amount of cash.

I highly reccomend the 'Fuchs' amps. Just bought a lucky 7 and its fantastic, but for that amoun t of cash you could go higher i think.

Heres the website:

www.fuchsaudiotechnology.com
Im not sure they are that 'metal' but they have incredible tone and are all valve.

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Thanks for the tip Ben,

I hope you dont pronounce that how im reading it, i have never heard of 'Fuchs' amps before tongue.gif checking out the site now smile.gif


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QUOTE (Hemlok @ May 26 2007, 03:01 PM) *
Thanks for the tip Ben,

I hope you dont pronounce that how im reading it, i have never heard of 'Fuchs' amps before tongue.gif checking out the site now smile.gif


Haha, im a bit miffed on how to pronounce it too!

Anyway, let me know what you think smile.gif

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It just so happens, that I bought the Line6 Spider III 120 a couple weeks ago...and.... I completley recommend it! I was floored by all the tone I could get out of it. There's nothing in any other amp that I couldn't get out of this one, and the best part is it doesn't sound very digital at all. All of the effects are very well done, especially delay and the reverb, which I use the most. Overall, I would buy this amp again over anything else! I hope this helps.


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oh cool i didnt know i could actually post without a membership tongue.gif lol. Dont worry i'm going to resubscribe soon. I dont know about those line 6 amps but if I had that kinda cash i would buy this http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox...ombo?sku=482620


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QUOTE (Hemlok @ May 25 2007, 11:24 PM) *
Im going to be buying a new amp in about 3 weeks, im looking to spend under $1500 and hopefully get myself a decent amp that i wont need to upgrade for a long time. Blues and Metal are what i will be mostly playing, my guitar i have now is a Jackson Warrior, but i will have a Gibson Les Paul Standard in 3 weeks smile.gif

I was originally thinking Line 6 Spider III, but i hear lots people saying it sounds too digital and the presets are a bit crappy, i already own a Boss GT-6 FX Processor which gives me all the effects i need, so i guess i should go for a quality amp without paying for all the extras. Marshall amps, i dont know too much about the diff types, but if you guys have any suggestions i will jot em down and test them out biggrin.gif will save me testing every amp in store as i dont have time for that



Hey Hemlok,

A sales guy at a local music store in Montreal had told me that he loved the Line 6 Spider III 120 so much that he couldn't stop playing with it after store hours. I bought my little son the 15 watts version this past Christmas and it sounds great. I could imagine how the big brother would sound like. Just go try it and decide only then. It is WELL worth it. Soooo much more flexible. If I would ever need to buy an amp, that would be it (well, maybe the 150 Watts version) cool.gif.

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Thanks for the replies everyone, i will certainly be trying out the Line6, but i have a few more amps written down now to try out too smile.gif

@benhowell: had a listen to some Fuchs and they sound great, so that might definately be an option smile.gif


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QUOTE (Hemlok @ May 25 2007, 11:24 PM) *
Im going to be buying a new amp in about 3 weeks, im looking to spend under $1500 and hopefully get myself a decent amp that i wont need to upgrade for a long time. Blues and Metal are what i will be mostly playing, my guitar i have now is a Jackson Warrior, but i will have a Gibson Les Paul Standard in 3 weeks smile.gif

I was originally thinking Line 6 Spider III, but i hear lots people saying it sounds too digital and the presets are a bit crappy, i already own a Boss GT-6 FX Processor which gives me all the effects i need, so i guess i should go for a quality amp without paying for all the extras. Marshall amps, i dont know too much about the diff types, but if you guys have any suggestions i will jot em down and test them out biggrin.gif will save me testing every amp in store as i dont have time for that



Hemlok,

Just went back to the Line 6 web site and checked out the Spider III 120. I noticed it's got only 12 amps tho (only, hahaha...) but if you have $1500 to spend, it would be a MUCH wiser choice of going with the Vetta II amps instead. These amps are killers and they give you 70 amps plus a whole bunch of effects that you can edit 'til you drop dead wink.gif . These amps also give you the choice of stacking 2 amps on top of each other to make any custom amplifier, it's basically unlimited. Wow, I would probably go that route if I was you smile.gif . Check out their web site. Hope that helps.

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Vetta II is looking very appealing, you can download custom tones to it? i think thats what im reading. Not sure if i would need a stack, a combo would prob suit me fine


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oh too bad in australia the vetta II is about $3000 :S

Might have to go with spider III at this stage

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I myself am a Mesa/Boogie fan, but they cost alot. But you could find something in that price range. I'm saving up for 2 trip rect solo heads and 4 4x12 cabs.


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Mesa/Boogie are my dream amps, i havnt really seen ones i can afford, but i havnt looked too hard


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QUOTE (Hemlok @ May 26 2007, 09:19 PM) *
oh too bad in australia the vetta II is about $3000 :S

Might have to go with spider III at this stage


$3000? Ouch! I was looking on ebay yesterday and you can get good deals on used ones. The combo is the same as the stack but lighter. Yeah, I would probably opted for the combo too smile.gif .

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QUOTE (Hemlok @ May 26 2007, 08:59 PM) *
Vetta II is looking very appealing, you can download custom tones to it? i think thats what im reading. Not sure if i would need a stack, a combo would prob suit me fine


Oh yeah, you can download a bunch of custom tones from Line 6 or other users like I'm doing with my Toneport. There are over 21 000 tones for the Vetta II combo available right now! Check it out at http://line6.com/customtone/. The other thing I like about this is they updated the Vetta and added a few amps, effects and some other useful stuff to it. It's cool that they can do that so you're not limited to what you have already. Check the samples of that free update: http://www.line6.com/vettaii/version25.html. I love that Bender effect.

God, sounds like I work for them (but I promise I'm not laugh.gif ).

Jacques

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