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MonkeyDAthos
post Jan 9 2012, 12:52 AM
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Hey guys, one of the many problems that i found, while composing, it's the drums, well i kinda have a vague idea (in my head) i would like to hear the drums..but when it comes to creatin' meh..., so i decided to study the subject, but i have no idea where to start? any suggestion


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post Jan 9 2012, 05:11 AM
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One thing I've always done since I was a kid was to air drum, I've always found really fun to do, and then I actually played some drums and that really gave me a clearer idea of what it takes, so maybe consider that,

Also analise the drummers you love, just by watching and listening to them you can start copying their style and maybe even develop your own


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post Jan 9 2012, 05:12 AM
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I know the feeling man. That's why I love EZdrummer. For now it suits my purposes. I am customizing the default samples more and more now. It's sometimes the drums that gives me the riff. smile.gif


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post Jan 9 2012, 10:07 AM
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Listening to a lot of Maiden, Metallica and Megadeth helped me to imagine certain drum patterns. One tip I woul give is to switch between hi-hat and ride for verses and choruses as this adds variation. A lot of Maiden songs have hi-hat in the verse and rids in the chorus which I do a lot smile.gif



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post Jan 9 2012, 10:15 AM
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There are some basic drum MIDI patterns that you can create and save as templates for future use, and modify them as the song goes by. EZDrummer has premade grooves, so you just drug & drop them on the timeline. You can choose simple one, and just modify it to whatever you need. Drums should be in some way locked with the rhythm section in order to sound coherent, so try from there, and like Daniel said, try to imagine (by playing air drums), if a real drummer could do it, this will help. You can always sing the beat to see if it fits, and type it afterwards (like "tu-tu-tu-pa-ts-ts", where "tu" is kick, "pa" is snare, or whatever other sounds you can think of for those) smile.gif


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I worked with a drummer friend on a song once where I programmed the patterns and he told me what to put where.

One thing that I learnt was using 2 bar patterns as well as 1 bar patterns, they really help take the programmed feel from the track


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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Jan 9 2012, 04:11 AM) *
One thing I've always done since I was a kid was to air drum, I've always found really fun to do, and then I actually played some drums and that really gave me a clearer idea of what it takes, so maybe consider that,

Also analise the drummers you love, just by watching and listening to them you can start copying their style and maybe even develop your own


Definitely good advice here from Daniel! I am quite obsessed with drummers actually and I have learned A LOT only from listening to what my favorite drummers are doing and writing their grooves in a DAW


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Thanks for the advices!


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QUOTE (MonkeyDAthos @ Jan 8 2012, 11:52 PM) *
Hey guys, one of the many problems that i found, while composing, it's the drums, well i kinda have a vague idea (in my head) i would like to hear the drums..but when it comes to creatin' meh..., so i decided to study the subject, but i have no idea where to start? any suggestion

Try to listen your favorite bands and figure out what they are doing! There are three main parts on the drum set
Kick - Snare - Hi-hat most of the time you will use all of them
I have seen a lot of producers working with drums and what I noticed is simplier is always better as long as you have a good groove to your song! Sometimes you don't even have to do any fills just straight groove! In music there are no rules when it feels good so feel free to experiment!


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