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post Jan 23 2012, 02:42 PM
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...I heard something interesting!! I heard the exact lick that Steve Vai does in Building the Church - or perhaps my ears deceive me. Have you guys noticed this? I was wondering your thoughts. This is apparently something Vai created. And this video speaks of that, but...

First here is Steve Vai. It's the intro I am speaking of.


Now here is Andy James. It's around 1:52. It's a really short phrase.


I just found this cool and interesting. I own the newest Andy James album as of yesterday and it's so awesome. smile.gif


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post Jan 23 2012, 03:17 PM
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Not really surprising, Andy James is a big Steve Vai fan after all.
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post Jan 23 2012, 04:29 PM
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yeah, it sounds very similar but it's so short to consider that a plagiarism. I really like Andy's playing, I have his first album and will get his second one soon... smile.gif

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post Jan 23 2012, 04:45 PM
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Nice comparison, but the solos often tend to be very similar, and I don't think that this could be plagiarism in the true sense of the term!


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post Jan 23 2012, 08:28 PM
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It always makes me LOL when I see the fans in a Steve Vai, Andy James, John Petrucci, Yngvie show versus say a metal band like Metallica. Metallica gets a mosh going, whereas the neoclassical fans just stand there staring at the fretboard - the rest of the band could be sleeping and the fans wouldn't know it biggrin.gif


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post Jan 24 2012, 12:44 AM
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biggrin.gif I wasn't saying it was plagiarism. I just thought it was cool that it sounded so similar.


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post Jan 24 2012, 08:30 PM
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so does this mean I can copy the lick at

2:16
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man, that sounds cool, so space-like, cosmic of some sort



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post Jan 25 2012, 12:14 AM
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biggrin.gif War March has become my most favorite track of this album. Yay. smile.gif


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post Jan 25 2012, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Jan 23 2012, 07:28 PM) *
It always makes me LOL when I see the fans in a Steve Vai, Andy James, John Petrucci, Yngvie show versus say a metal band like Metallica. Metallica gets a mosh going, whereas the neoclassical fans just stand there staring at the fretboard - the rest of the band could be sleeping and the fans wouldn't know it biggrin.gif


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post Feb 1 2012, 12:09 PM
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As Guthrie Govan says, "Copy from one person and it's stealing, copy from many people and it's "research" "

All 3 Andy James albums are great, the first 2 albums have some great ballads. He has alot more to offer than just shreding, which is what the first two albums really show.....

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Really, If you looked hard enough you could find many, many similiar ideas, licks, phrasing, pick attack, articulation of what Andy does compared to Nuno Bettencourt, Yngwie, Satch, Vai etc

This is the beauty of listening to an Original artist like Andy who himself has been influenced by some of my fav guitar players....

This is one of my ultimate fav Andy songs.... not what you are expecting? tongue.gif



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post Feb 1 2012, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Feb 1 2012, 08:09 AM) *
As Guthrie Govan says, "Copy from one person and it's stealing, copy from many people and it's "research" "

All 3 Andy James albums are great, the first 2 albums have some great ballads. He has alot more to offer than just shreding, which is what the first two albums really show.....

But

Really, If you looked hard enough you could find many, many similiar ideas, licks, phrasing, pick attack, articulation of what Andy does compared to Nuno Bettencourt, Yngwie, Satch, Vai etc

This is the beauty of listening to an Original artist like Andy who himself has been influenced by some of my fav guitar players....

This is one of my ultimate fav Andy songs.... not what you are expecting? tongue.gif



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That's a really nice song by Andy! The melodies are beautiful as well as the tone. Which album includes this song?


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post Feb 1 2012, 03:37 PM
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That's his second album, "In the Wake of Chaos" track seven....



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post Feb 29 2012, 08:35 PM
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So many licks and riffs and solos have been played, I don't believe these guys steal intentional like that. It's a coincidence IMO smile.gif


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