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post Jan 27 2012, 02:36 AM
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Thinking about saving for another guitar but I am curious about price. Are there any good guitars in the $300 - $400 (US) price range? If there are, what are they? I know I'm going to get what I pay for but I don't want to throw away money. I have an Ibanez GSA60 (I think it's the cheapest electric Ibanez makes). Cheap guitar, but for the cost, it's fine. If I cannot see a substantial difference in the way my next guitar is, I'll just stick with it. Thanks!


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post Jan 27 2012, 02:46 AM
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I would get a Schecter you can find one for this amount and they are sounding pretty good!


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post Jan 27 2012, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jan 27 2012, 01:46 AM) *
I would get a Schecter you can find one for this amount and they are sounding pretty good!


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post Jan 27 2012, 02:55 AM
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I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but I would rather buy some gear that you will keep forever, like an amp or effects, rather than buying a guitar you will probably replace anyway. At least you can wait until you can spend a bit more on the next guitar, or just save up! On the other hand, it's not my decision, just trying to point out this side of the picture as well.


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post Jan 27 2012, 04:04 AM
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Not too long ago there was a Schecter posted on Amazon for $234.00. It wasn't one of their cheaper ones either, it was loaded with active, yes active EMGs, set neck, and a flame maple top. Of course the maple top was a veneer, but its still a nice looking and sounding guitar. This guitar normally sold for $600, but was seriously marked down for clearance. This deal is long gone, but the reason why I'm mentioning it is because deals like this pop up all the time, you just have to look for them.

Another option you can try is picking up a Fender Mexican Stratocaster. They can be had for around $300, and are plentiful on craigslist and eBay. There are many good things about the Mexican Strat, and the Strat platform in general. The Mexican Strat when stock is a very good quality guitar. But whats great about it is its only a starting point for whatever you want to make it. The accessories for the Strat are endless. No other guitar on the planet has an after market upgrade selection like the Strat. You can turn the guitar into anything you want, and you can do it as funds are available. You can make it a metal monster by putting a beast of a pickup in the bridge, then put a smooth single coil in the neck and middle for excellent clean tones.

I'm not sure what kind of music you play, but the best guitar you can get for under $400 is the Squier Classic Vibes series Strat/Telecaster. The fit and finish is excellent and the pickups are great quality. In fact, the pickups are manufactured by Tonerider pickups. I know Squier has a bad rap, but you seriously have to check out these guitars, you will be really impressed. When I first seen them at Guitar Center, I thought they were the Fender American Series guitars. In fact, they can be directly compared to the American Series guitars. The main difference between the two is the American series has a higher quality tremolo block, and better tuning machines, but thats it.


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post Jan 27 2012, 04:28 AM
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Schecter is great in that range. I have a Damien FR myself. Look into the Ibanez Artcore line. Fender just came out with their new Modern Player Series, which has one seriously bad-ass looking Marauder. It sounds great! Mexican Fenders aren't half bad, throw in some good pickups and bam. Otherwise, just scour for deals. Mudbone is correct in his post. I was never really a Fender fan until Sinisa had a thread about that Marauder.


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Personally since you live in Florida if you have a local Guitar Center check with them.

http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedGear/index.cfm

You can use that to search for guitars for brands, price, ects. Hit up the local store if you find something talk to someone and see if you can buy it and have them ship it in. I'm not sure if they are all as good as the local one here but if they are it shouldn't be an issue at all.

I've picked up a bit of used items from them to vouch for decent prices. I bought a LTD Alexi-600 for $550 and at the time it retailed for $1200. I've bought a Mesa Triple Rectifier for $1300 they sell for $2500 new. Trading in can be a let down. I traded the Alexi-600 back in they gave me like $350 for it, but they had a special going on and with it being towards a trade in they gave me I believe 20% off the next purchase which put me back to $550 what I paid for it.

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post Jan 27 2012, 06:38 AM
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i would analyse what is the guitar I want, regardless of the price, and then check out a really cheap version of it, for instance Squier out of Fender, or Epiphone out of Gibson,

Pretty much all of the brands have an inexpensive version of their guitars, so check the one you want and find out the cheaper version , I hope that helps


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post Jan 27 2012, 06:57 AM
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First off I'd say look at used instruments. You can get quite a bit of guitar if you can handle one that has had the "new" worn off a bit smile.gif Also, check pawn shops and such. You can often find amazing deals on guitars in those types of places. Often players will pawn a guitar intending to get it back and it doesn't work out and the pawn shop doesn't know or care about guitars so they sell it cheap.

Also, check craigs list and such. Play as many as you can. Pick the one that feels/sounds the best to you. For a few hundred bux you can find some great deals if you dig around.


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Epiphone makes some decent guitars for the price. LP & SG shaped mainly.


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post Jan 27 2012, 12:17 PM
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This has been a helpful thread. My daughters (16 & 22 yo) have shown interest in guitar & I must admit, have had my nose up in the air regarding Squiers. But Mudbone has really piqued my interest in the Classic Vibe series. I currently play a LP copy & wouldn't mind adding a strat, so ..... if they decide they don't want to play guitar anymore... wink.gif And Todd has me drooling over the Ibanez RG's, too!


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post Jan 27 2012, 12:41 PM
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get your hands on something from vintage

Awesome stuff designed by Trev Wilkinson. THe hardware is all Wilkinson. Good stuff. I got a Vintage Icon LP copy the JBM model. Like it better than my Gibson LP Studio. I had a Thomas Blug Strat for a while ( another relic model from Vintage) It beat my USA made Highway One strat (which is a cool budget model from Fender: here is a vid of me and my highway one http://youtu.be/BI56ld9kiME )


here the vinatge guitars:

http://www.jhs.co.uk/vintageelectric.html

this one is really great

http://youtu.be/PnW3_qqy_r0

and this one is better than all PRS SE models combined. sustain until you start crying. better than all Schecters

http://youtu.be/5bsQ4w3jGNA



here is the Blug Vintage relic in action

http://youtu.be/ZX2974-aoN0


the non Icon models go for 300 Euros at some vendors here. Great price for what you get

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post Jan 27 2012, 01:38 PM
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For that much money you should be careful, because it's a tight budget. Personally, if I had that type of budget for my MAIN guitar, I would consider going second-hand, discount pieces, window shop pieces that were used in the store can sometimes have discount price, and you should hunt down some good options on eBay if your shipment costs aren't that great. If you have a local dealer that can get you something for cheap or on couple of monthly payments, that would be great too.

Buying new guitar in that price range won't make that much difference, so because of this, try to be careful. I would stay away from pretty-looking cheap guitars, as they are often bad in tone or built.



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post Jan 28 2012, 12:37 AM
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In any case I'd watched also the second hand guitars! You can to run into an extra axe for peanuts biggrin.gif !


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post Feb 1 2012, 02:39 AM
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After all was said and done, I decided to buy the Jackson JS32R. I put the deposit on it tonight and will hopefully bring it home in about two weeks. Jackson is going to discontinue this model... something about them losing money on it I've been told.


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post Feb 1 2012, 03:42 AM
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QUOTE (Blister @ Jan 27 2012, 06:17 AM) *
This has been a helpful thread. My daughters (16 & 22 yo) have shown interest in guitar & I must admit, have had my nose up in the air regarding Squiers. But Mudbone has really piqued my interest in the Classic Vibe series. I currently play a LP copy & wouldn't mind adding a strat, so ..... if they decide they don't want to play guitar anymore... wink.gif And Todd has me drooling over the Ibanez RG's, too!


Definitely check out the Classic Vibes series by Squier, you will seriously be impressed. I have noticed that Guitar Center never seems to have any in stock at their showrooms, but Sam Ash typically does. Also, if you do plan on getting a cheaper Ibanez RG, stay away from the ones with the Edge III bridge. It is made from low grade steel and will wear out.


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I have to agree totally with Ivan. Also, I am a super "cheap" guy, which makes me carefully consider the ration of "value". That means, that cheap isn't always the cheapest!! For example, if you can only spend up to $400, that's that. BUT, what if $500-$600 could get you a WAY better guitar? Obviously, you'll have to wait a bit longer, but it makes it all that much sweeter the day you lay your hands on the PERFECT axe for you!! For me, it was a Parker Nitefly 97' on craigslist in immaculate condition for $700. I couldn't technically afford it that particular week, and had to borrow $$ from my girlfriend until I flipped my US Strat.... but TOTALLY worth it!! I'd trade a kidney for that guitar!

Anyway, I'm just sayin'.... don't get "trigger happy" with excitement and blow your wad on something that is only a bit better than your guitar. There is such a fine line between "crap" guitars, "ok" guitars, "awesome" guitars (and then they just get fancier and prettier, but you can get what is considered an AWESOME/pro guitar for usually $600-$1000 depending) so always be careful when treading that line. I know this from experience, as a poor, gigging guitarist. Not quite "pro", but I'm definitely getting called into sessions in Portland frequently, subbing into gigs, and balancing 3 gigging projects and a full time job!! Anyway, I am past the point where a "mid-level" axe will do the trick. I went US strat first, but agree that many a Mexi-Strat will compare. Check out Stephane's Country licks vid here on GMC!! A mexi-tele with SWEEEEEET tone!! https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Country-Licks-Lesson/


Best of luck to you!! Just consider your options carefully, play many an axe, and always consider what you really want/need out of a guitar now and in the next few years....it will help you find a "cheap" guitar, that still has "value" to you!! (sorry, I've sold furniture and I know that sometime an extra $20 gets you a piece that lasts a lifetime, as opposed to crap. Guitars can be similar, but more options and more confusion!!)

Also, though I see the value in having quality effects, I prefer to have sweet solid tone behind it first!! I feel that starting the other way around can create a bad-habit of "hiding" behind effects. I've already seen many posts discussing this in various applications. Life is balance.....too "clean", and you better be Chet freakin' Atkins!! Too much distortion, and you run the risk of losing sight of basics and many techniques because you're buried deep in shreddy tone!! I believe it can benefit us all to find our "balance", yet I digress.... dry.gif



QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jan 27 2012, 04:38 AM) *
For that much money you should be careful, because it's a tight budget. Personally, if I had that type of budget for my MAIN guitar, I would consider going second-hand, discount pieces, window shop pieces that were used in the store can sometimes have discount price, and you should hunt down some good options on eBay if your shipment costs aren't that great. If you have a local dealer that can get you something for cheap or on couple of monthly payments, that would be great too.

Buying new guitar in that price range won't make that much difference, so because of this, try to be careful. I would stay away from pretty-looking cheap guitars, as they are often bad in tone or built.



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