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Ben Higgins
post Feb 10 2012, 10:54 AM
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It happens to most of us at some point. When the recording buttong goes on, we suddenly can't play something that we can normally sail through with ease.

We know why this is.. it's just good, old fashioned pressure. Pressure to get it right, so we mess it up because we're so over focused on it.

It happens to me mostly when I'm recording solos. Sometimes I can keep going and work through the frustration to eventually get a good take but mostly, I have to stop and calm down.

How about you ? How do you deal when recording fever hits ? Do you just grind your teeth, swear a few times and keep going or do you take a break before having another go ?

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post Feb 10 2012, 11:23 AM
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Sometimes the simplest of acoustic strumming parts has gone awry for me with that dreaded red light.

I think the only thing is being comfortable in your recording environment, whether that means lava lamps and your favourite chair, or hitting that record button everytime you pick a guitar up so it seems natural.


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post Feb 10 2012, 12:01 PM
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I go through it even doing a loop track on this new pedal. I try not to swear at it (even though I sometimes fail). Sometimes I just walk away. With my REC's, I have just gotten sick of recording the same take a million times and have submitted them anyway. It's interesting to see that this still happens to seasoned veterans.

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post Feb 10 2012, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 10 2012, 10:23 AM) *
Sometimes the simplest of acoustic strumming parts has gone awry for me with that dreaded red light.

I think the only thing is being comfortable in your recording environment, whether that means lava lamps and your favourite chair, or hitting that record button everytime you pick a guitar up so it seems natural.


Oh and keeping a sense of humour!


Yeah I think having a personal touch is key... I need to get more relaxing pictures to have around ! biggrin.gif


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post Feb 10 2012, 12:19 PM
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Yeah, happens to all I guess, it's human nature smile.gif Interesting thing is, usually the first 3-4 takes are the ones that I keep, as it progresses towards the end, it's getting worse and worse, fingers get tired. It's important to take a break here and there as well, It happened to me that I pushed to make it right so much that I don't touch the guitar whole day after that, and my fingers hurt. Measure it's very important.


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post Feb 10 2012, 01:21 PM
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Hmm, here's what I do - I press the record button and don't turn it off between takes! Then I put the backing track on repeat, and play over and over, until I get the take I'm satisfied with. smile.gif That way I forget about the camera and dive into the playing biggrin.gif After I played it right, I simply cut the "right" take while editing.

Oh, and the fact that my camera doesn't flash a red light while recording also helps, I guess biggrin.gif

My biggest problem is not recording fever, it's in fact battery fever! biggrin.gif My camera battery is kinda weak, and it recharges VERY slowly, so when the battery is low I get super nervous to finish the take before the battery runs out! laugh.gif

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post Feb 10 2012, 02:22 PM
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I certainly have encountered this problem.... One way I got over it was, after recording a take I was happy with and was about to upload it.... I recorded a whole new take.... so in my mind, I had already completed the lesson, and even if i stuffed it up, it wouldn't matter... The next take was great and was so much better than the original. I did this with the Gary Moore Ballad i did a while back.... tricking the mind seemed to work cool.gif


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post Feb 10 2012, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Feb 10 2012, 01:22 PM) *
I certainly have encountered this problem.... One way I got over it was, after recording a take I was happy with and was about to upload it.... I recorded a whole new take.... so in my mind, I had already completed the lesson, and even if i stuffed it up, it wouldn't matter... The next take was great and was so much better than the original. I did this with the Gary Moore Ballad i did a while back.... tricking the mind seemed to work cool.gif


Good idea ! If only I could get a good solo take to try it with ! laugh.gif


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post Feb 10 2012, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Feb 10 2012, 02:22 PM) *
I certainly have encountered this problem.... One way I got over it was, after recording a take I was happy with and was about to upload it.... I recorded a whole new take.... so in my mind, I had already completed the lesson, and even if i stuffed it up, it wouldn't matter... The next take was great and was so much better than the original. I did this with the Gary Moore Ballad i did a while back.... tricking the mind seemed to work cool.gif


That's a great approach! Thanks for sharing, will have to try it out! wink.gif


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post Feb 10 2012, 03:41 PM
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I know that feeling, and I totally recommend the method Jax posted, it really works.


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post Feb 10 2012, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Feb 10 2012, 09:54 AM) *
It happens to most of us at some point. When the recording buttong goes on, we suddenly can't play something that we can normally sail through with ease.

We know why this is.. it's just good, old fashioned pressure. Pressure to get it right, so we mess it up because we're so over focused on it.

It happens to me mostly when I'm recording solos. Sometimes I can keep going and work through the frustration to eventually get a good take but mostly, I have to stop and calm down.

How about you ? How do you deal when recording fever hits ? Do you just grind your teeth, swear a few times and keep going or do you take a break before having another go ?

Good topic man! The first time I've been on the studio I got so nervous that I couldn't play anything it was back in Russia and I ended up arguing with a sound guy because he was trying to take my guitar and play solo himself! It was so embarrassing! Crazy!
But when the years went by I have learned how to control myself and now I am not freaking out, just doing my job smile.gif
Also the most pressure to me was when you are working at a very expensive studio and producer need you to record fast I have been in the situations when you get only two takes for each part after the second one you are being fined and by the seventh take you are not making any money! smile.gif This kind of stuff makes you stronger!!!


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post Feb 10 2012, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Feb 10 2012, 01:54 AM) *
It happens to most of us at some point. When the recording buttong goes on, we suddenly can't play something that we can normally sail through with ease.

We know why this is.. it's just good, old fashioned pressure. Pressure to get it right, so we mess it up because we're so over focused on it.

It happens to me mostly when I'm recording solos. Sometimes I can keep going and work through the frustration to eventually get a good take but mostly, I have to stop and calm down.

How about you ? How do you deal when recording fever hits ? Do you just grind your teeth, swear a few times and keep going or do you take a break before having another go ?


I can relate. Fortunately DAWs let you loop - in Cubase, I set the track so that every time it begins the next loop iteration, it records a new track. Then I can flip through all the takes and choose the one that sucks least biggrin.gif



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post Feb 10 2012, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Feb 10 2012, 04:56 PM) *
I can relate. Fortunately DAWs let you loop - in Cubase, I set the track so that every time it begins the next loop iteration, it records a new track. Then I can flip through all the takes and choose the one that sucks least biggrin.gif


Yeah, looping with precount is a great option to stay with fingers on the fretboard, and try to do it in several takes smile.gif


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post Feb 10 2012, 08:11 PM
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All VERY great tips!!

Ivan, I agree.....usually one of my earlier take ends up being my best!!

Dinaga...... I like your approach of "keeping it rolling, and loop the track". I really just loose focus "hitting the record button"!! I'm not nervous, because I play live all the time, but just hitting the button and coming "back" to the riff seems to get my head out of the game.


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post Feb 10 2012, 09:20 PM
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I have this trouble as well. Sometimes I can sit and play a solo for something like a collab and play it great, but the minute I turn on the record button I sound and play terrible. Its getting better, and one of the things that really helped me was first of all making sure to warm up properly before recording the take, Make sure I'm in a comfortable position for recording (for me this is standing up, rather than sitting at a desk or something) and making sure I know exactly what I want to play, rather than just trying to improvise the whole thing. Ultimately I think it boils down to experience, and the more you record, the better and more comfortable you become with it.


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post Feb 10 2012, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (casinostrat @ Feb 10 2012, 08:20 PM) *
I have this trouble as well. Sometimes I can sit and play a solo for something like a collab and play it great, but the minute I turn on the record button I sound and play terrible. Its getting better, and one of the things that really helped me was first of all making sure to warm up properly before recording the take, Make sure I'm in a comfortable position for recording (for me this is standing up, rather than sitting at a desk or something) and making sure I know exactly what I want to play, rather than just trying to improvise the whole thing. Ultimately I think it boils down to experience, and the more you record, the better and more comfortable you become with it.


Yes, warming up definitely goes a long way to getting a more relaxed take smile.gif

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The golden rule is more you do it better you will get!


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post Feb 11 2012, 12:31 AM
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In home studio I do not have these problems at all, trying to be relaxed as can be, and usually finish everything in two or three takes. Pro studio is a different story- I need total concentration, so I don't like crowd around me! Only sound engineer and myself smile.gif.
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QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Feb 10 2012, 11:31 PM) *
In home studio I do not have these problems at all, trying to be relaxed as can be, and usually finish everything in two or three takes. Pro studio is a different story- I need total concentration, so I don't like crowd around me! Only sound engineer and myself smile.gif.
Do you know which word is most beautiful when shooting ? When the sound engineer says - "purchased" !!!!


Purchased ? That's a new one !! biggrin.gif


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Just recorded something NOW smile.gif a few riffs for a new Voodoo song. Well, I got to act like a sailor and curse of course but, once I managed to get through the first chorus, stuff went very well. Of course, I got back to the other things which weren't as spiff the first hand. For me it's more of 'getting into the business' once I started and focused on the task at hand, it's only a matter of being able to keep my mind on the job smile.gif


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