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post Jun 6 2007, 03:20 AM
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QUOTE (stratman33 @ Jun 1 2007, 12:37 PM) *
weird that the linked worked for you, but whatever. Ya ive ben keepin my eye on this for a while, earning my money by mowing lawns dry.gif its hard work, but im earning money fast.




Ha ha you and me both, ive only got like 4 lawns but i plan on getting more tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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post Jun 6 2007, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (stratman33 @ Jun 2 2007, 09:27 AM) *
ya, i know les pauls are great, but i already have one. I'm looking along the lines of ibanez or schecter cuz im getting this guitar for the heavier music that i do.So any suggestions about any guitars in those brands would be great!


Well ok, then how about this one?

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-FEN-335005-570.html
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post Jun 6 2007, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Jun 6 2007, 01:48 AM) *


ha ha, my little cousin has that one it actualy played better than my guitar but it wasnt in tune so sound wise i aint sure how it is laugh.gif


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post Jun 6 2007, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Jun 6 2007, 01:48 AM) *



laugh.gif nice biggrin.gif tongue.gif


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post Jun 8 2007, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (Eat-Sleep-andJam @ Jun 5 2007, 10:20 PM) *
Ha ha you and me both, ive only got like 4 lawns but i plan on getting more tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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I've now got 6 lawns-ive got $100 now. 1 quarter of the way to my ibanez!!


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post Jun 8 2007, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Jun 1 2007, 12:55 AM) *
Get 50$ more and get yourself an Ibanez RG 370DX - i had it - i was my first guitar and i must say its an awesome axe for the price!



The annoying thing about that guitar is it has that annoting floy rose tremolo. It takes about half an hour to tune a few strings down only half a step and its extremely hard to restring. It also interferes with palm muting technique. If you want to go with an ibanez go for a ibanez SA120 (its within your budget).


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post Jun 8 2007, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (jammer91 @ Jun 8 2007, 11:33 PM) *
The annoying thing about that guitar is it has that annoting floy rose tremolo. It takes about half an hour to tune a few strings down only half a step and its extremely hard to restring. It also interferes with palm muting technique. If you want to go with an ibanez go for a ibanez SA120 (its within your budget).


Well if you plan on constantly retuning your guitar to different tunes than forget about EdgePro/FloydRose bridges.

But i don't see where the problem with palm muting is - i play Ibanez for about 4 and half years now and never had any problems with muting! huh.gif


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post Jun 8 2007, 11:39 PM
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ok, will someone please inform me what the problem is with floyd roses?? blink.gif


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There is no problem! In my opinion a guitar without a Floyd or Edge Pro bridge is not a guitar at all and i never even look at guitars without Floyd/Edge Pro (don't take it as an offense - it's my preference and i will always stick to it).

If you are a fan of different tunings and switching between standard tunings and Drop D or something you'll spend a lot of time tuning the guitar as Floyd works with springs inside the guitar and it takes time to tune your guitar.

I never bothered with different tunings - tune it to standard and rock the world - that's it! I love Floyd/Edge Pro bridges. Whammy bar is a MUST HAVE in my playing (Strat Bridges do have them but they can't do the stuff you can do with Floyd).

If you want lower tuning buy a 7-string. That's what i am gonna do this summer. So there is NO problem with Floyds.


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QUOTE (stratman33 @ Jun 8 2007, 06:39 PM) *
ok, will someone please inform me what the problem is with floyd roses?? blink.gif


Floyd Roses or just locking tremeloes in general were designed to solve a spedcific problem - that strings can go out of tune it you whammy a lot. There are many reasons for this, but most revolve around the way that the strings slide over the various parts of the guitar like the bridge and nut, and also how steady the tuners are.

Floyd roses fix this by locking the strings. You screw a plate or similar over the nut sop there is no movement, and they are designed to anchor at the whammy with little or no movement there as well. As a result, you are left with the ability to fine tune only (at the bridge end) since the main tuners are disabled by the plate at the nut. When setup properly, Floyds have amazing tuning stability. Also, owing to the way they work, they tension the strings against the springs in the whammy to get the exact height of the floating bridge.

The flip side of this is that if you want to tune down, you need a toolikit and some time. You have to remove the plate on the main tuners and tune the strings down. Then you have to readjust the springs in the tremelo to get the right tension again. This might well take several go arounds because as you retune the tremelo will move again, so you need to adjust the stprings, until you get it all set. Then you lock the nut, and use the fine tuners.

So, its a simple tradeoff. If you want an incredibly stable whammy use a Floyd Rose. If you want a guitar that you can drop tune on stage, don't! One way around this for the rich would be to have one guitar for each tuning.

As long as you use the Floyd for what it is intended it is an amazing piece of kit as Pavel says.


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QUOTE (Pavel @ Jun 9 2007, 04:43 AM) *
There is no problem! In my opinion a guitar without a Floyd or Edge Pro bridge is not a guitar at all and i never even look at guitars without Floyd/Edge Pro (don't take it as an offense - it's my preference and i will always stick to it).

If you are a fan of different tunings and switching between standard tunings and Drop D or something you'll spend a lot of time tuning the guitar as Floyd works with springs inside the guitar and it takes time to tune your guitar.

I never bothered with different tunings - tune it to standard and rock the world - that's it! I love Floyd/Edge Pro bridges. Whammy bar is a MUST HAVE in my playing (Strat Bridges do have them but they can't do the stuff you can do with Floyd).

If you want lower tuning buy a 7-string. That's what i am gonna do this summer. So there is NO problem with Floyds.



ok i gotcha because everyone says floyd roses are either awesome or they suck so i just wanted to know.thanks Pavel! smile.gif


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QUOTE (stratman33 @ Jun 9 2007, 05:02 PM) *
ok i gotcha because everyone says floyd roses are either awesome or they suck so i just wanted to know.thanks Pavel! smile.gif


People who say Floyd sucks simply don't know what to do with it or don't know how to tune guitar properly. For those who want to switch tunings all day i suggest getting 2 guitars. Floyd doesn't suck - it's a great invention!


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post Jun 11 2007, 04:13 PM
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Hi all,

Dude check this out,

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/B...ku=512676%2e707

If you want something thats individual and plays VERY WELL.

Read the reviews that owners have posted and the overall scores.

You'll have some change as well......


P.S. try to play as many guitars as you can. the shape of the neck makes all the difference to how it feels.
I like the Gibson shape (nice and round) for fast playing
My son likes the Fender shape which is thinner and flatter. He's still young so I'll forgive him.

Cheers and good luck.


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post Jun 11 2007, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (Boxboy @ Jun 11 2007, 11:13 AM) *
Hi all,

Dude check this out,

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/B...ku=512676%2e707

If you want something thats individual and plays VERY WELL.

Read the reviews that owners have posted and the overall scores.

You'll have some change as well......
P.S. try to play as many guitars as you can. the shape of the neck makes all the difference to how it feels.
I like the Gibson shape (nice and round) for fast playing
My son likes the Fender shape which is thinner and flatter. He's still young so I'll forgive him.

Cheers and good luck.


I've played that before, i love the sound, but its not comfortable for me. I was considering that until i played it. I didnt like how it felt.Good idea though!I was looking for something among the likes of ibanez if you have othr ideas!


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