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post Feb 14 2012, 09:13 PM
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Hey all, I took a moment yesterday to finally download an open-source version of "GuitarPro".

Though I've been playing guitar for years, I'm kind of an idiot with the technology side. I have virtually no recording experience, and just finally messed with GP (tuxguitar) for the first time ever.


I was hoping for some "pointers", or some of your favorite uses for GP?


For example..... I've noticed how amazingly accurate the "charts" are for the songs I've downloaded so far. Are you guys actually "composing" out all of the notes, or can you play your guitar and it "charts" out the note for you? Sorry, I'm a TOTAL noob with this.

Any other cool features that you use? So far, I've only used it for the tab/charts and to "playback" riffs. I'm sure it can slow down without changing pitch and such.


Thanks in advance for your advice, stories, and suggestions!! Once I figure out how to use GP, my DAW, and perhaps get a better camera, I'll be a much more productive and contributing member of the GMC community. For example, I've started on my first "student lesson" series, but I've learned so much already on what I can improve for future lessons.


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post Feb 14 2012, 09:38 PM
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I give it two uses. Once is for sharing tabs here at GMC, I write my lessons and also my Vchat notes in GP and then I export it to Pdf and .tab files. The other use that I give it is for learning songs and then muting the guitar and using it as a backing track. It's cool because you can change the tempo and practice difficult songs at slow tempos. Sometimes I also export the midis and open it in a multi-track software to use the drums to jam over it and create riffs and songs. I love the guitar pro... tux guitar is the same but is free and made in Argentina. smile.gif



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post Feb 14 2012, 09:45 PM
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Actually, I was using Tux software long ago, but now I'm using a Guitar Pro. I think that is TuX very similar software,can't remember exactly, but I think all options are there.

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For example..... I've noticed how amazingly accurate the "charts" are for the songs I've downloaded so far. Are you guys actually "composing" out all of the notes, or can you play your guitar and it "charts" out the note for you? Sorry, I'm a TOTAL noob with this.


All the instructor's lessons were typed note- by-note smile.gif. My method is to compose a lesson out of my head, and when I finish a song - pass it on a paper - I mean on the GP smile.gif !

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Any other cool features that you use? So far, I've only used it for the tab/charts and to "playback" riffs I'm sure it can slow down without changing pitch and such.


There are so many options in it, that is a pleasure to train with him. Of course, you can increase and decrease the tempo without changing pitch, you can turn on the Loop option, and star practicing with marked part over and over, or with a slight tempo lifting each new round, (it's my favorite) .
There is a very interesting options, for example, you grabbed a chord that sounds nice but you doesn't know his name - mark the position on the fingerboard graphic and press A - you'll get a name of the chord. smile.gif


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post Feb 14 2012, 09:47 PM
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So, when you're "composing" or writing out tab/charts for a lesson....are you writing it in "by hand" (keyboard), or can the software "read" the notes you play and then compose it out for you? I've seen some very intricate, and accurate charts (like Sinisa "Around the World" series) that are just SPOT ON. Obviously, it could be that you guys have the skills to do so, but I swear I've heard about GP having the ability to "chart out" what you play. Or am I just wishing?


Either way, thanks for the tips Gabriel!!
-Gabriel Rodriguez


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I give it two uses. Once is for sharing tabs here at GMC, I write my lessons and also my Vchat notes in GP and then I export it to Pdf and .tab files. The other use that I give it is for learning songs and then muting the guitar and using it as a backing track. It's cool because you can change the tempo and practice difficult songs at slow tempos. Sometimes I also export the midis and open it in a multi-track software to use the drums to jam over it and create riffs and songs. I love the guitar pro... tux guitar is the same but is free and made in Argentina. smile.gif



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post Feb 14 2012, 10:01 PM
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They definitely write it in by hand.

The only thing I can think of that would input the notes in automatically are a midi fretboard eg a YouRock, which aren't very good. Heres a review from David Wallimann - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV13V8QD_AY



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post Feb 14 2012, 10:09 PM
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Sorry to crash your thread derper but I'm interested in this.

When the instructors do a lesson and there is a Guitarpro file with it does the GP file include backing (drums, bass etc) as well as the guitar part ?
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post Feb 14 2012, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Feb 14 2012, 09:47 PM) *
So, when you're "composing" or writing out tab/charts for a lesson....are you writing it in "by hand" (keyboard), or can the software "read" the notes you play and then compose it out for you? I've seen some very intricate, and accurate charts (like Sinisa "Around the World" series) that are just SPOT ON. Obviously, it could be that you guys have the skills to do so, but I swear I've heard about GP having the ability to "chart out" what you play. Or am I just wishing?


Either way, thanks for the tips Gabriel!!
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If you own a Midi guitar, then it is possible-You playing and tabs are written automatically. On this way all that we can do is to do it manually (which sometimes can be a very tedious job) biggrin.gif .


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post Feb 14 2012, 10:29 PM
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Sinisa, your GP file on "Around the World: Serbia" is amazing!! That's the one (so intricate!!!) that got me thinking that you may have been able to input the timing/measures and "play" into it.... but nope. It was just skill and hard work.


On a side note: I just discovered that series yesterday (sent it to a friend too!!), and was completely blown away!! What an AMAZING video lesson series! So informational too.


QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Feb 14 2012, 01:14 PM) *
If you own a Midi guitar, then it is possible-You playing and tabs are written automatically. On this way all that we can do is to do it manually (which sometimes can be a very tedious job) biggrin.gif .



My thread are always open-invitation!!

So far, in my experience, the GP files do not contain the backing track. BUT, I think you can download it and "insert" in into GP/tuxguitar so that you can hear the backing track with it. But then it would be backing track with the "midi" guitar composition sounds, so you might be better off just listening to the original lesson.

Right now, when I download the GP file, it basically has all the tab/notation and can play it in real-time (or slowed down) so it's basically the BEST version of a tab file/chart that you can get! By then, I usually have a feel for the backing track, and am mainly just using it to learn the tab/notes of the lesson, then I go back and jam to the backing track. But I THINK you could put the backing track to the midi file, but it would be like a version of the original lesson track....with crappy guitar (midi guitar) tone instead. So right now I'm not seeing the benefit. But, maybe it would help others, and I guess you could probably slow down the "riff" AND the backing track together, which may benefit some people while learning new material. I wouldn't personally do it. I just learn the riff, then play with the blank backing track.



QUOTE (waggers @ Feb 14 2012, 01:09 PM) *
Sorry to crash your thread derper but I'm interested in this.

When the instructors do a lesson and there is a Guitarpro file with it does the GP file include backing (drums, bass etc) as well as the guitar part ?



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post Feb 14 2012, 10:50 PM
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post Feb 14 2012, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Feb 14 2012, 03:13 PM) *
I was hoping for some "pointers", or some of your favorite uses for GP?

Great idea for thread!

I love using TuxGuitar (some day when funds are better I will surely get GP) when practicing GMC lessons. The nice feature is the way it plays note by note. Up on the top right (I'm at work & visualizing Tux by memory) there is an icon of a clock. That is the bpm. I'll start my practice at a slow tempo & as my playing gets better, I up the tempo by 5 or 10 bpm. This gradual increase helps me with my precision. Some of the bt's provided are still too fast for me. By using Tux, I can play it at a better tempo for my skill level.

I am interested in finding out if Tux will transcribe standard music notation to tab format. Right now I only edit in tab mode. I would like to be able to type in standard notation & Tux convert it to tab notation. I'm sure there is a way but I haven't found it yet. smile.gif


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post Feb 14 2012, 11:54 PM
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Since I've already got some "attention" on this thread, I'll ask here, as well as PM Cosmin....


I just started workin on this Cosmin lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Antoni...nter-Arpeggios/




Oh wait....now tuxguitar will not open anymore. Guess I'll hold off on THAT question!!

Ok, got it back up and running! biggrin.gif

But the GP file from Cosmin's lesson seems to be playing back in a different pitch than what the tab notates. All the tab is "correct" but when I hit "play" in tuxguitar, it sounds as if every note is being played 1 1/2 steps lower. I haven't changed tempo either.


Anyone else getting that with that lesson? Please let me know.


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post Feb 15 2012, 01:28 AM
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Is the guitar pro file version 5 or 6? Also, do you have Guitar Pro to test it against? If not, you can download the demo that will work for a month or so to see if it's an issue with the file itself.

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QUOTE (derper @ Feb 14 2012, 05:54 PM) *
Since I've already got some "attention" on this thread, I'll ask here, as well as PM Cosmin....


I just started workin on this Cosmin lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Antoni...nter-Arpeggios/




Oh wait....now tuxguitar will not open anymore. Guess I'll hold off on THAT question!!

Ok, got it back up and running! biggrin.gif

But the GP file from Cosmin's lesson seems to be playing back in a different pitch than what the tab notates. All the tab is "correct" but when I hit "play" in tuxguitar, it sounds as if every note is being played 1 1/2 steps lower. I haven't changed tempo either.


Anyone else getting that with that lesson? Please let me know.



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post Feb 15 2012, 03:33 AM
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Disregard this question.

QUOTE (Blister @ Feb 14 2012, 05:24 PM) *
I am interested in finding out if Tux will transcribe standard music notation to tab format. Right now I only edit in tab mode. I would like to be able to type in standard notation & Tux convert it to tab notation. I'm sure there is a way but I haven't found it yet. smile.gif


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I like to use it to write exercises in and share.


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QUOTE (derper @ Feb 14 2012, 05:47 PM) *
So, when you're "composing" or writing out tab/charts for a lesson....are you writing it in "by hand" (keyboard), or can the software "read" the notes you play and then compose it out for you? I've seen some very intricate, and accurate charts (like Sinisa "Around the World" series) that are just SPOT ON. Obviously, it could be that you guys have the skills to do so, but I swear I've heard about GP having the ability to "chart out" what you play. Or am I just wishing?


Either way, thanks for the tips Gabriel!!
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I do it by hand! The only way that I know to do it automatically while you are playing is using a midi guitar controller or maybe a midi converser where you can connect your guitar. I've never tried it so I don't know about the precision of this method.


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Tux guitar has a portable version I have on a USB memory stick. I use it at work if a riff comes into my head to work out how to play it. It really helps with identifying rhythms and note lengths too.


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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Feb 15 2012, 12:28 AM) *
Is the guitar pro file version 5 or 6? Also, do you have Guitar Pro to test it against? If not, you can download the demo that will work for a month or so to see if it's an issue with the file itself.

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I think, unless someone knows better, that the demo version of GP doesn't let you load outside files - only the demo ones that come with it.
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There are a couple of on-going research projects at various Universities that are looking at real-time pitch transcription of audio rather than midi. As yet though neither Tux or Guitarpro can do this though so you have to do it by hand.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 14 2012, 08:38 PM) *
I give it two uses. Once is for sharing tabs here at GMC, I write my lessons and also my Vchat notes in GP and then I export it to Pdf and .tab files. The other use that I give it is for learning songs and then muting the guitar and using it as a backing track. It's cool because you can change the tempo and practice difficult songs at slow tempos. Sometimes I also export the midis and open it in a multi-track software to use the drums to jam over it and create riffs and songs. I love the guitar pro... tux guitar is the same but is free and made in Argentina. smile.gif

Same here! I bought GP especially for this purposes smile.gif


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I also use Tux for writing out riffs I year on youtube or mp3 that haven't been tabbed out already.

I had to learn how to use the mixer the other day after downloading Gab's Jimmy Page Style Licks (Thanks Gab! smile.gif ) since pressing play caused all the licks to play at once. I realize these were probably intended just to be in written form but using the mixer you can mute/solo each track.

Are there any features to GP (or Tux) that tend to be overlooked by the average user?


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