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post Jun 16 2014, 02:40 PM
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Hi mate, how are you?

It's been a long while since we used this thread and I was wondering about the things you've been working on the last months. I'm listening to the song that you shared here and it sounds really nice, I would like to hear the finished version if you finally decided to record it.

Are you working on some new music? Are there new goals to achieve? What are you currently practicing?

I think that doing some kind of balances and auto critic is great to see if we are on the right path so let's use this thread for that. I can help you with some feedback, exercises, suggestions or new plans based on your goals.



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post Feb 15 2016, 09:44 AM
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Hey look at this your worst and laziest student is back.

I need your mentoring and production skills.

I have many half written songs and ideas and I feel 2016 is the year to start a project and actually see it through to the end.

This track is right in your area of expertise it's a punk poppy type of song and even with the riffs and structure sorted out, I've recorded two guitar tracks but need your help writing the bass track, your ideas for additional guitars, guitar tones etc to make a full awesome track. I have some lyric ideas and melody lines I just need to get them down and fit them to the track.

I've uploaded the rough track to get your thoughts, anything can be changed at this stage!
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Hi mate! Welcome back!

The idea sounds really cool! It reminds me to great pop punk bands, and the first that come to mind is Jimy Eat World. Before you start writing bass, why don't you analyze what the bass plays in some of their songs? It will give you ideas on how to get out from the only roots bass lines. Foo Fighters punk rock songs also include cool bass lines so you could check out some of them.

The bass line doesn't have to be complex, but some "clever" ideas can make it sound much more interesting.

I also think that you need to work a bit more on drum grooves and fills. Analyzing some music will also give you ideas. As you are not a drummer or bass player, you need to learn some songs with that approach to have some ideas.

The guitar works sound good here, I think that you need to work on the other instruments to then get back to guitars, and maybe simplify things.


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Thanks for the advice. I'll start listening to songs with a similar vibe and checking the drums and bass out


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Cool! I'm curious to know about how the analysis goes. Have you started?



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Hi Gab.

I know I'm a man of many false starts! but I'm back in your capable hands again.

As I told Todd in my Shred Journey thread with him, I have just quite my position on my church band, I feel that strangely was keeping me from progressing as a guitarist as they didn't take musicianship that seriously and the music was very uninspiring.

So know I not only have more spare time, but a big void in my musical life to fill with you and Todd mentoring my guitar journey!

I have been practicing this morning with the Skate Punk lesson we were working on soo long ago and I've got it almost to where I left off. I'll post a video later (actions speak louder than words!)


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Cool! smile.gif

I'd like to hear what are your goals as guitarist and musician at this moment. Please be clear and wide if it's possible.


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Modern Rock and 80's Hard Rock Rhythm is something that I'd like to work on, I come from a chord strumming background rather than riffs or the combination of both, so I'd like to get more familiarity with that side of things.

From a soloing point I'd like to be able to use the pentatonics better than I do. I can create quite melodic solos that have a singable quality but a lack of runs and licks, this is possible down to my lack of speed, which hopefully working with you and Todd will progress. I've noticed in a hard rock/blues rock area I have very little material to draw from.

I have a good theory knowledge but due to lack of fingers on fretboard time it's pure head knowledge and not apparent in my playing.

Players that make me sit up and take notice are

Slash - He's just rock and roll to me, quite a scrappy player but great vibe
Nuno - What a great right hand, great rhythm player as well as amazing solos
Dann Huff - Giant might have come out at the wrong time and were a little cheesy but he is an amazing yet very tasty player
David Grissom - I love roots rock, a mix of rock country and blues and singer songwriter style and he make every note count
George Lynch - Classic Hard Rock Guitarist

At the end of the day I'm 42 and unlikely to join a heavy rock band etc but I'd love the music and would like to have the ability to be a local sideman with the technical skill and vocabulary to work with most artists about the city.


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Here's where I caught up to with the Skate Punk lesson after a two sessions of going back over it

160 bpm I had played it better but this was the best recorded take just before hand fatigue started to set in.

I have a horrible feeling to get faster I'll need to use strict Alt picking on the double picked notes which I naturally don't do to avoid inside picking! but we'll see.

The guitar was a touch out of tune and there are some silly mistakes on the easy octave part but it is what it is!



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Hi mate! Thanks for the complete info.

I've been thinking on a guitar plan for you based on assignments with very precise tasks and deadlines. I assume that you'll work on your technique/speed with Todd so I won't focus this program on it. We will go for rhythm, phrasing and improvisation in order to be able to play your favorite songs but also to be able to improvise solos and compose your own music.

What do you think? Could you please share here 5 songs that you'd like to master?


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As for more Modern Rock I'm happy to work on any of your Post Hardcore and punk type lessons

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Ok mate! So here we go!


ASSIGNMENT 1:

Goals:

- Getting into minor phrasing
- Learning first part of Burn.


TASK 1:

Learn the riff, verse and chorus of the song Burn (from beginning to 01:15 of the video that you've shared)

https://youtu.be/K7W7HDfFhS0

Use your ears, any youtube tutorial or google for tabs. Practice it over a backing track or over the song.


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Learn the first 50 seconds of this lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/C-Minor-Soul-Blues/

Practice it over the backing track, and once you can play relatively well the licks, practice creating variations and mixing the licks with your own licks.


Exam and deadline:

By July 14th you'll have to share 3 videos:

- A video playing the licks from the Minor Blues Soul lesson (4 coins)
- A second video improvising over the backing track. (3 coins)
- A video playing the parts learnt by the song Burn (3 coins)

Each of this videos will be evaluated (check the coins value below). You need to get at least 7 coins to pass. If you pass, we can continue, if you don't you will have a second "call".


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I'm on it!


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Excellent! smile.gif


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I've only found a tution for the Deep Purple version of Burn, which is a little in the verse and chorus than BCC's. I'm getting the riff up to speed.

Trying to get a clean take of the C Minor Soul Blues licks, there is nothing like recording to show how inconsistence my play is!


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Hi mate, thanks for the update. Both things sound good! Keep going! smile.gif


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I'm not particularly proud of these, my ghost note slides are out of time in places, I've been struggling to make the two triplet licks flow properly. but this is where I'm at with this, I've played it better a few times or so, and I've played it much worse many more times!!!! lol






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Good job mate! I can see that you've been working hard! Are these the the final takes for the assignment?


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I hope they aren't I know I can play it better, but I do need to put a lot more time into the other tasks


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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Jul 14 2016, 05:21 AM) *
I hope they aren't I know I can play it better, but I do need to put a lot more time into the other tasks



Ok, I was just asking since the takes are good! If you feel that you can do a better take go for it, if not we can go for one of these.


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