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post Aug 16 2012, 11:26 AM
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hows it going cosmin wink.gif Im thinking of joining the pop collab with a synth sound i created tongue.gif


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post Aug 16 2012, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 16 2012, 10:26 AM) *
hows it going cosmin wink.gif Im thinking of joining the pop collab with a synth sound i created tongue.gif


Hey Erik, by all means! Please do biggrin.gif

How are you mate, how's practicing? I guess you have you been away on holidays, as I haven't seen you around lately smile.gif


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post Aug 18 2012, 05:16 PM
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nope no summer holidays for me wink.gif But im going to balkan in the autumn my girl got family relatives there smile.gif


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post Aug 19 2012, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 18 2012, 04:16 PM) *
nope no summer holidays for me wink.gif But im going to balkan in the autumn my girl got family relatives there smile.gif


What do you mean balkan? Does that mean, close to Romania? smile.gif


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post Aug 19 2012, 05:25 PM
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croatia to be precise wink.gif


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Oh, close, but not close enough sad.gif

So, today is the last day for the collab entries, will you be joining, Erik? biggrin.gif


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Yes im gonna record today, cause today is finally rain day and the temperature will drop smile.gif
I didnt thought that romania was so deep down south and close to balkan wink.gif I might visit Belgrade to but its also a bit away from bucharest, if bucharest would have been in east romania we could have had a jam haha biggrin.gif

Btw, I am learning this now, working on the riff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilzfGT9jcTM
I will record myself playing the riff, so you can say how accurate I am wink.gif

Okay, this one I am really going to learn and record a video, I wont learn it halfway, no more of that smile.gif


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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 20 2012, 12:54 PM) *
Yes im gonna record today, cause today is finally rain day and the temperature will drop smile.gif
I didnt thought that romania was so deep down south and close to balkan wink.gif I might visit Belgrade to but its also a bit away from bucharest, if bucharest would have been in east romania we could have had a jam haha biggrin.gif

Btw, I am learning this now, working on the riff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilzfGT9jcTM
I will record myself playing the riff, so you can say how accurate I am wink.gif

Okay, this one I am really going to learn and record a video, I wont learn it halfway, no more of that smile.gif


Oh Serbia smile.gif well, pretty close but unfortunately not close enough sad.gif

How hot is it in there? In Romania, the temperature is just perfect right now - I can play guitar and not sweat like a pig anymore laugh.gif

Looking forward to see the riff recorded wink.gif


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Hi there cosmin, Im at the european dragrace championship, and I have just witnessed a new world record wink.gif
Anyway I am almost done with the riff, and I am trying to figure out the key.

First I thought E minor, the riff is not dropped, and starts on the E, and has a F# and a C# in it. And no G#...
But then it uses a B, and a Bb! (or A#). So it must be some phrygian dominant?
I am not so familiar with those scales, except for E phrygian dominant which I used in the Djent Collab.

I know the song got phyrigan dominant in it in the melodic playing, but I dont know about the riff smile.gif

Good day to you wink.gif


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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Aug 24 2012, 08:23 PM) *
Hi there cosmin, Im at the european dragrace championship, and I have just witnessed a new world record wink.gif
Anyway I am almost done with the riff, and I am trying to figure out the key.

First I thought E minor, the riff is not dropped, and starts on the E, and has a F# and a C# in it. And no G#...
But then it uses a B, and a Bb! (or A#). So it must be some phrygian dominant?
I am not so familiar with those scales, except for E phrygian dominant which I used in the Djent Collab.

I know the song got phyrigan dominant in it in the melodic playing, but I dont know about the riff smile.gif

Good day to you wink.gif


Seems more like B harmonic minor to me smile.gif I checked all the notes in the riff and it's most likely like that - Marco starts from E - so it's actually a mode of the harmonic minor biggrin.gif tongue.gif


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A little recording of the riff wink.gif
Just quick played with no metronome or backing track. I play full speed until the ending riff variation (when drums come in).
Then I play it slow, Since I didnt get it right! three notes I cannot find! The first palm muted ones are wrong! they sound right but wrong in the slowdowner and when I play along!
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Mate - first - the tone is incredibly accurate biggrin.gif I have listened for several times but I don't think there's anything wrong with the notes that you have picked up by ear. What I would like you to do:

Please record the whole phrase at a slow tempo backed by a metronome - the speed should match the highest tempo at which you can play that last passage at. The last note is a pinch harmonic in the original recording and that might be one of the reasons why you think that it sounds wrong in the way you sorted it out?

Let me know wink.gif

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post Sep 3 2012, 08:06 PM
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forgot to mention, I made a deal for an Axe FX ultra wink.gif
I got it at a good price too, a very good investment for me smile.gif

It doesnt have the tone match like Axe FX II. It modifies your cabinet so that you can get the same tone.
So I know what amp marco uses, and I asked a guy with a FX II to caputre the tone, I got the settings, then I had to do some tweaking on my cabinet and got really close smile.gif

I just have some problem getting a good lead tone, some wah in there right?
Here is some playing, got the main riff corrected know and started working on the lead smile.gif


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Hey Erik, sounds like a sweet deal mate!

The riff is almost as clean as it should be, but watch out on the leads mate - timing as a bit faulty and some bends are a bit off, but enough to be perceivable.

Try playing all of this slower and PERFECT - send me as many takes as you wish, ok? I'd love to be able to boast with you being able to play this tune wink.gif

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yes I will need to pratice in a slow tempo wink.gif it also went a bit better after sleeping on what i learned wink.gif Im at the legato lick now, I got all notes in there but I think its played a bit different from how I play it.

the goal is to finish it before winter, I planned to play it on a winter concert on a music school, and also open up a new youtube channel with it smile.gif


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sorted the lick legato out wink.gif what a nice lick. There is a hard descending lick later, and not to forget, the madness part sad.gif which also is the best part of the song!: )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilzfGT9jcTM
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Well up to 2.22 this sounds like Satriani and Petrucci are jamming together tongue.gif Legato and AP so well separated biggrin.gif In my opinion, the part starting at 2.22 is more difficult, because of the way the formula is constructed. Pay more attention to it and see that you get a good grasp on its pulse - the accents will count A LOT!

QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 5 2012, 04:05 PM) *
yes I will need to pratice in a slow tempo wink.gif it also went a bit better after sleeping on what i learned wink.gif Im at the legato lick now, I got all notes in there but I think its played a bit different from how I play it.

the goal is to finish it before winter, I planned to play it on a winter concert on a music school, and also open up a new youtube channel with it smile.gif


I think it's doable - but you have to make this your very serious goal! Honestly! Strive fight and bleed for it!


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Here is a lick that is done in the song before the verse starts again.
I found it familiary, and its a typical "excercise" pattern he uses wink.gif But its got intresting note choices, so it sound cool, first I fought it was just EVH picking, you know, picking several times one a note playing in a scale, but its more complex smile.gif

High E----(15----12----14---15--14---12)--x4----18----14---15--18--15---14 (x2)---19---15---18----19--18---15--(x2)--23

I remeber doing this patterns with a metronome while back xD, now I got to do it again
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Aaaaah biggrin.gif More like the Petrucci type of lick wink.gif

Make sure you practice it with a metronome mate, it sounded a little shaky in this recording, ok?

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Yes of course smile.gif

Regarding the theory work its going well. Still some work to Do to get around every mode in every scale.
But what should've deal with now? Arpeggios? I am familiar with some major and minor shapes, but there is more to learn wink.gif
What do you say?


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