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post Sep 11 2012, 08:50 AM
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Erik, have you eve tried to build arpeggios based on more complex chord structures? It's kind of the same thing smile.gif

Start by adding a M7 to the major shapes that you already have biggrin.gif In this way, you won't have to learn new shapes, just ADD a new note to the shapes that you already know tongue.gif

Try to go through them using 16th notes, 8th notes, sextuplets all the rhythmic subdivisions smile.gif

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post Sep 11 2012, 11:42 AM
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sounds good smile.gif But I will need some asstiance, and more direct orders what to do each day / week smile.gif


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post Sep 11 2012, 03:45 PM
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Mate - first task:

1) Find all of your 3 note C, G, D, F major arpeggio shapes
2) Add a M7 to each shape
3) Play them using 16th notes at 70 BPM

Step four, after you send me a recording tongue.gif

Deal?

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post Sep 12 2012, 07:52 PM
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deal wink.gif
Btw got to say, making that deal on a that demo-product esp horizon was the best thing i have ever done!
amazing guitar... I thought my Ibanez was so good now I cant barely play it!

Low action, great control and sound with 0.10 gauge


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I am glad you like it man! Congrats wink.gif Show me some pics, will ya?

And also, maybe a little movie with arpeggios, based on your latest tasks? biggrin.gif



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post Sep 13 2012, 05:31 PM
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So, Im going to play major 7th arpeggios?
Or do you mean add the minor 7th note?


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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 13 2012, 04:31 PM) *
So, Im going to play major 7th arpeggios?
Or do you mean add the minor 7th note?


First add the M7 mate - just like I've said in the post above wink.gif

But try to see the note as an addition to what you already know, rather than thinking of a completely new different shape, ok?

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Yeah but is M7 minor or major seven?
Or am I getting it all wrong now..

For example, you want me to play a C Major arpeggio, thus meaning we have 1st, 3rd and 5th note.. and then I add the seventh note in the scale and play a major 7th arpeggio?


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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 13 2012, 06:18 PM) *
Yeah but is M7 minor or major seven?
Or am I getting it all wrong now..

For example, you want me to play a C Major arpeggio, thus meaning we have 1st, 3rd and 5th note.. and then I add the seventh note in the scale and play a major 7th arpeggio?


Yes Erik, the M7 is the major seventh - that means your arpeggio will have the 1 3 5 7 formula. If it were 1 3 5 b7, that would'vemade it a dominant 7th arpeggio wink.gif


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Cosmin, I could only find 2 shapes that we really useable inte the 3 note major arpeggio sad.gif
I have a book, which went trough some 2 string, 3 string arpeggio etc, but I didnt really find anyones that were really useable.

I choose to start with the 3 note arpeggios.
I attatched a file, 2 arpeggios shapes played in C and D

I got a few more shapes though not that I think of it, but still, only these to I can play in a fast way!

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Hey Erik, these sound very good, but mate, it's not about playing them fast smile.gif It's about knowing where the notes are and inventing more approaches to using them. For instance, take one of these two which you have found and try to think them in 2 octaves and go through them in groups of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 notes/ beat.

It doesn't have to be fast - we are aiming more phrasing possibilities here, rather than speed smile.gif

What say you?

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Okey cosmin, with two octaves u mean playing the same arpeggio one octave higher or lower right?
I got a vid coming up today, i will play some three note Arpeggios using 16th notes, then on tuesday i will do the same but with major 7th Arpeggios smile.gif


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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 17 2012, 07:08 AM) *
Okey cosmin, with two octaves u mean playing the same arpeggio one octave higher or lower right?
I got a vid coming up today, i will play some three note Arpeggios using 16th notes, then on tuesday i will do the same but with major 7th Arpeggios smile.gif


Exactly Erik, split the arpeggio over two octaves - one low and one high! Let's see the vid! Don't rush the playing man, you can show them to me slow smile.gif


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I am actually finding a lot of useable shapes now smile.gif
And i havent added the m7 yet so, the vids gonna take a while smile.gif


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Great man! Looking forward to the ideas you will have now tongue.gif New arrows in the quiver, my friend wink.gif

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSq1kWVLoYs
Here is a vid wink.gif

Covering four shapes, all that can be built on using the m7 note.


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Howdy Erik! The shapes are usable and you can find a lot of contexts for them as they are right now - but I only see and hear major arpeggio shapes, no m7 or M7 and I also wanted to discuss your right hand technique which is slowing you down a bit due to excessive movement. You should work on executing the shapes slower and regarding the right hand. you should restrict the movement to up and down only, when sweeping, rather than moving it sideways as you are doing it now smile.gif

Please let me know if you would like to develop the topic wink.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM) *
Howdy Erik! The shapes are usable and you can find a lot of contexts for them as they are right now - but I only see and hear major arpeggio shapes, no m7 or M7 and I also wanted to discuss your right hand technique which is slowing you down a bit due to excessive movement. You should work on executing the shapes slower and regarding the right hand. you should restrict the movement to up and down only, when sweeping, rather than moving it sideways as you are doing it now smile.gif

Please let me know if you would like to develop the topic wink.gif

Cosmin


I am going to play minor arpeggios as well? Well I saved this and the major 7th arpeggios but I will do it in next vid.
Also, I dont actually know why I picked so weird, it felt a bit awkward, I usually dont do that.

So I will do these things in the next vid wink.gif


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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Sep 27 2012, 12:17 PM) *
I am going to play minor arpeggios as well? Well I saved this and the major 7th arpeggios but I will do it in next vid.
Also, I dont actually know why I picked so weird, it felt a bit awkward, I usually dont do that.

So I will do these things in the next vid wink.gif


Oooh! Ok, let's see the next one tongue.gif the next next one, should feature all these, played against chords which I will provide wink.gif


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so got a vid coming up soon, im going to play major arpeggios, major 7th arpeggios, and minor arpeggios?


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