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Hi mate, your analysis is on the right track. Your suspect about substitution is exactly what's happening here. If you check the second video, you'll see that Diego explains what you said about Ab7(b5) being a triton substitution of a secondary dominant. Something similar happens with that E major which could be seen as a secondary dominant, or even as a modal interchange.

Check out the slow videos to see how he explains what he has done and share here which are the most interesting elements that you find here.

Regarding your video, that looks good! I think that I'll give a try to this one too. biggrin.gif


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Sorry no update, i had a pretty bad indigestion still recovering. wacko.gif.

Lesson wise:

"At the end of this part I create a proper I - VI - II - V and then I solve on C.

The first C chord is substituted by it's 3rd grade (Em7). "


So Em7 is working as a C, but with no C. The C however is implied by the I-VI-II-IV, even though you are playing a III as substituation of I. Did i get that right?

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Also began to tackle with those lessons.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-...jor-7th-Chords/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-...Minor-7-Chords/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-...inished-Chords/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-...inant-7-Chords/

But rather than rec'ing them I thought of doing something more interesting and cocking some music up. I might drop some little tracks/excerpts later on.

Also i'v decided and taking an audition around june/july for Jazz School in Lisbon, I am actually pretty excited about...Even though there is a few months, i am pretty nervous already.


Anyways, I'll drop the chord melody lesson tomorrow with backing track.

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All these are GREAT news. Looking forward to hear your compositions made from the chord melody lessons. smile.gif


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My noob me finally got Reaper and Guitar Rig working together. tongue.gif

So here is practice season nº2

https://soundcloud.com/renato-santos-658226572/guitar-practice-chordsm

That G7/9(#5) movement still needs some practice, but i am getting there.
Also, after listening post-recording. i feel like i am going a bit ahead of the beat sometimes, it does feels a bit rush.

Still gonna try perfect the apparent issues, before posting a rec.

Will keep you updated-

EDIT:

Also been working on on this lesson:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ernate-workout/

Here is a pretty rough take, its 120 bpm. (original is at 130). And its lacking the last lick, which i still have to memorize
https://soundcloud.com/renato-santos-658226572/alt-picking-workout-120bpm

I will try and see if i have both lessons in decent shape for Rec this by the weekend.

EDIT THE EDIT:

Man, i am going to sell my soul mellow.gif , not even joking.

I got this gig, which is basically popular portugues music, mix with some kizomba music, and probably a few rock songs.
Its not my style at all, but the dude told me he had already 40 gigs set up, and would be paying me 80 euros for 4 hours gig. -He has been doing this for a while or so i was told -

But, man i don't if it feels right, playing just for the sake of money. Regardless I do really need the money to pay education and what not.
What do you think, am i being the ultimate sell out?

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Hi mate,

I've checked both audios from soundcloud and your progress is really good. You are very close to master them.

But let's talk about the second part of your post.

I think that the offer sounds really good! Most of our guitar heroes, even Jimi Hendrix, and Jimmy Page started as session guitarists.

You'll get paid while becoming a professional musician, gain experience live, polish your playing. This is the best thing that can happen to you.

If this is not your favourite style, it doesn't mean that you are selling your soul. Music is music. If you are genuine, your soul will speak through those guitar lines and rhythms. At the same time, it's always rewarding to master new styles.

So I can only see advantages here.


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Will have the first rehearsal tomorrow, lets see how it goes.

Anyways here's another practice takes on both lessons, I am still not feeling 100% for the rec tbh.



And the Muris's Lesson at full speed.
IT NEEDS A TON OF PRACTICE STILL. tongue.gif
I went with a not very gain setting, so its even more unforgiven, and i'v messed up the last lick.



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Good job man! The lessons are definitely on the right track. You have some room to improvements but there is nothing really relevant to work on them. You can keep them in your diary practice and continue with some other lessons.

This lesson has some interesting stuff for you: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Altern...-Visualization/


As well as these ones:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Fast-P...-Metal-Riffing/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Melodi...hred-Arpeggios/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Jimi-H...x-Rhythm-Style/


mm I think that most of Diego's lessons could give you some good stuff for the style that you like.

Check out this one: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Jumping-Harmonies/


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Well it seems i have work for days then!
Will post an update, whenever i have something ready or at least close to it.


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Ok! Looking forward it! wink.gif


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So had my first official rejection today.

Went to the audition today, was nervous like always regardless of being easy or hard stuff. I will always get butterflies in my stomach and cold sweated hands facing situation of the kind.

I messed up a few chords. Wasn't because of technique, I think i simple forgot to breathe and tensed up. BRAIN 404 not found tongue.gif

I tried to play equal to the song, trying to stay "humble" just doing the rhythm section.

Turns out the other guitarplayer was friends with one of the singers and they both come up with "extra" parts, guitar solos and what not. The moment he suggest:- "hey what if we do a lead here". Really impressed the band owner.
I am shy dude, i just ...i felt like a aimless little kid in comparision. As i saw the other dude doing suggestions and new ideas to the song, i was like.

"Yes, i am done."

So ya, at the end of the day, I failed.
I am kinda mad, because i know i had the set of skills for the job. And i often jam with friends so i am kind use to "live" playing.
But it seemed that it was my first time playing with people ever, that i'v never played with people before. (at least i was always in time with the songs tongue.gif)

Looking back to it. I see myself as a total amateur.
I would like to make a living of playing guitar, it doesn't have to be original music. Teaching, Freelancer etc...but goddamn, wasn't i outclassed. Especially mentally.

Is just. i am a late bloomer. I bought my guitar back the beginnig of 2010. And had no intention on going pro. The first 4 years of guitar player i barely practiced.
(10min of practice + 60 mins of watching youtube videos on how to practice + 120mins giving uping and playing video games)

Actually nothing in these past years satifested me and i wandered with no clue what to do with myself, which is kind bad seeing i am 23y/old already.

But 3 months ago, i was working in a warehouse 14h a day, 6 days a week. And i met a lot of nice and kwl people. People who had spent there whole life there. That warehouse was their universe and i realized i didn't want that life.

So i decided resume my education, to go for that Jazz School audition, and started grinding guitar every single awake hour. I'v been trying to catch up 2 years of 0 guitar improvements in 2 months. (I know the human body doesn't work like that)
But for the first time ever i am actually enjoying myself with the guitar. I often go to sleep excited for the next day to come so i can improve even more.
But alas, after some grinding i failed this simple audition...and can't help but to feel dissapointed with myself.

But i guess i can't get worse than what i am already am, only improving

Sorry about the long big text rant. I am just decompressing via text.

Anyways back to practicing.

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Hi mate!

Auditions are totally random and we shouldn't feel good or bad about them. Consider this a good first experience and treat auditions like a lottery. You never know what they are exactly looking for so do your thing and continue your own journey.

If you want to make a living from music, design your own plan. I think that it would be interesting if you can improve the lightening of your videos so they would look better and you could start sharing your takes also at Instagram or Youtube. I prefer Instagram because you can reach much more people easily. Don't worry about how good your vids are, start letting the world know about you while you become better.

This idea has lots of advantages:

- You'll keep practising.
- You'll keep getting better.
- You'll feel motivated to practice.
- You'll want to make your videos look and sound better, as well as your guitar tone.
- You'l start buidling your fanbase / music friendship.


Check out the evolution of this guitarist, from his first vid to the last one, now giving live clinics endorsed by Suhr!

https://www.youtube.com/user/Mautaus/videos


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Hi Gab.

I saw your pm about the collab, but these past few days i ain't feeling much of inspiration.

Anyways lessons wise.

Yes, Mateus is awesome. Was checking his clinic in Korea. Expression and Dynamic wise i totally love it. And wish i could even begin to do 1/4 of it. tongue.gif

As you said on the Rec take i posted. Which i will certainly do a re-take.
"Dynamics (The original lesson has more dynamics that would have a good impact in your playing)"

Its a lot easier for me to practice a random alternate pick lvl 7 lesson, than a lvl 3 which require a lot of dynamics/articulation control.

For instance. i was pracitising Winter Tune Lesson and i completely butchered all the bends and vibratos. Especially at the end.

https://soundcloud.com/renato-santos-658226572/wintertune-roughtake-guitar-practice

But regarless i will keep practising. Will update when i have decent stuff!

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Yeah,

Most of us tend to dedicate more time to alternate picking and legato than other techniques which are much more expressive like dynamics, bending and vibrato. It doesn't seem to e the case of Mateus.

Just add it into your diary routine and you'll get better and better on it. I think that maybe Dynamics are underrated at GMC's lesson levelling.

Regarding the lesson, yeah, those bends and vibrato need work!





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Hope you don't mind if I use this thread as a little "schedule guide" on what i have to work on.

So i can at organize myself more than anything else.

Lessons

Warm up:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ernate-workout/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/move_y...le_finger!/
Todd's Bootcamp

Cutting-Edges:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Land-Of-Legato/
"Need to search some cool Bending Lessons"

Theory:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-...jor-7th-Chords/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-...Minor-7-Chords/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-...inished-Chords/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-...inant-7-Chords/

Polishing:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Chord-Melody-Technique/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Winter-Tune/

New Lessons:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Fast-P...-Metal-Riffing/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Jimi-H...x-Rhythm-Style/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Altern...-Visualization/

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Sure! Feel free to use the thread for it! wink.gif


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Hey Gab, just a little video update.: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Altern...-Visualization/

Ps: my video software completely butchered the synch between audio and video, no clue why.

I am reading from the tab as I am playing, still have to memorize 100%.

And I am using pick instead of thumb, mainly because my fingers are all freezing. (So you will probably hear a higher attack rather than the soft one in diego's lesson)

Winter has finally arrived and my bones are still adjusting. Tbh, these past 4 days I've had 0 willpower to practise guitar, just wanted to stay in bed tongue.gif.

Anyways, i will probably post some updates sunday!




Edit: video starts 10 secs in.

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Hi mate,

So we are at opposite sides, here comes the summer so I'm getting used to the hot days. biggrin.gif

The lesson sounds good. I think that you can play it smoothly and that you are comfortable with the chords. It's important to analyse what you are playing, and slowly start creating your own variations of these ideas. That's the best way to incorporate more what you learn here.

Regarding the pick, it's ok, I don't think that it's a part important of the lesson which is based on the chord shapes.



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I can't even begin to understand the concept of Christmas in Summer biggrin.gif


Anyways, here is the "Sunday Report".
Haven't had the time to interwebz as of late. Also I can't record video atm (nothing i cannot fix), so I will upload audio files until the problem is solved.

About Mechanics

Lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Land-Of-Legato/
Practise Session
https://soundcloud.com/renato-santos-658226572/guitar-practise-sucking-at-legato-episode-1

Personal overview: I've never practised much legato to be honest, I have always had a "pick all notes" mentality. So yeh, you can hear the take is pretty regid still and the notes are pretty uneven.
Gotto grind more.

Lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/move_y...le_finger!/
Practise Session
https://soundcloud.com/renato-santos-658226572/guitar-practise-episode-2-move-your-little-finger

Personal overview: There is still hiccups, there is still room to polishing.

About Diego's Lessons

This is what I understood from both lessons.

Let's take a Bb Major Scale: Bb (I) C (ii) D (iii) Eb (IV) F (V) G (vi) A(vii)
You can replace any degree expect the IV with a Dominant Version of the chord: Bb7 (I) C7 (ii) D7 (iii) Eb (IV) F7 (V) G7 (vi) A7(vii)

Then you can take the dominant substitution and put it through the substitution grinder again, but this time you apply the substitution based on the intervalic values.

Ex: Bb7 ( Bb, D, F, Ab) You can substitute with:
Bdim (flat 2nd of Bb)
Ddim (Major 3rd of Bb)
Fb7b5 (flat 5th of Bb)
Fdim (5th of Bb)
Abdim (minor 7th of Bb)

I swear this started with a bunch of drunken jazz man in a converstion of the kind:
Yo, man! what if substitute the substitution that substitute the substitution.
Ye, man!
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And i've add a few chords to my vocabulary:

Like:
E||----------
B||--6------
G||--5------
D||--5------
A||----------
E||--6------

"I often use this shape to substitute my Major 7 chord, making it smoother, in order to let another musician to improvise on it with more freedom. "

So i am guessing that statement is right because the Bbsus2add13 lacks the 3rd? Therefore you can get way with Major and Minor shenanigans. Regardless that chord has been store in my playing for sure.


From Stephane's lesson

E||---8------
B||---6------
G||---9------
D||---7-------
A||----------
E||---------

This version of Major 7th its probably my favorite chord ever. I will probably use it in my playing more often than healthy recommendations biggrin.gif
But having the F and E so close to each other, gives it such an awesome feel! I really really dig it.

About Questions

1º How do you practise Vibrato. Like do you bang the string until you hear something that sounds somehow pleasant? Or do you use a more "mechanical approach".

2º For instance take the situation

E||---10------
B||---13( B )-
G||-----------
D||-----------
A||-----------
E||----------

So you bend the 13 a whole step do get in unision with the 10. But what if you want to apply vibrato on the bended note?
Do you raise it sharp but keeping the note bended in unision with the 10 when executing vibrato?
or do you lower it and apply vibrato?


Anyways, sorry for long text and thank you for your time!


Edit:

Almost forgot you know over christmas night, I always play a few songs for the family.
And since we are working on chords and what not, I thought on doing something kinda special.

The godfather theme was the first thing I've learnt on guitar when I had a cheap acoustic with 3 strings tongue.gif. So I was thinking on doing some chord/melody kind arragment for it. I might post something this week! As soon I've cook up something.



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Hi mate! Great stuff!

I can hear that you are not comfortable with the legato lesson yet. It definitely needs more practice and I think that some more legato lessons will be a good idea in the future. Even being a fan of AP, I think that legato can expand your guitar sound a lot so I would put some attention on it.

The other lesson (little finger one) sounds very good. I just hear some little issues in the last section and that will disappear with some more days of practice.

About the theory, I've done a quick check and everything seems to be right, however I'll get deeper later with my guitar to see if you are missing anything.

Regarding your vibrato question, I think that it's something very personal so there is not an approach for it, there are lots, one for each person. The best is to trust in our ear and heart when practising it, and off course play along with some of your favorite players to get ideas on how to use it over songs and backing tracks.

The double sop bend should be done as you've said, the the vibrato as a normal vibrato, up and down around the pitch played. Does it make sense?



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