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post Apr 9 2012, 09:12 AM
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Howdy partner! biggrin.gif This is the place where we shall be working together wink.gif

In order for you to become a good improviser, you need to master your instrument very well so I would be curious to know if you can send any recordings where you are playing something so I will know on what terms do we start wink.gif

2 hrs a day can work wonders if used properly and with the right focus - we shall cover rhythm, phrasing, ear training, theory and technique - which are your favorites? i would recommend starting out with vibrato, bending, alternate picking and legato as these are the most important.

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Hey...

Thanks for your reply....

Will normal sound recordings do ?? I have a few pieces recorded on my mobile (which i used to play)

What i feel is i have a basic grasp but i never went and actually understood everything.... I think a combination of Theory and practice is the right combo (atleast to start with) -- Where many find theoy to be boring i have always enjoyed learning it...

Also i think a solo or riff can be played by anyone but the right technique and the feel of what you are playing is the key...


Thanks again for taking me on...

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Howdy partner! biggrin.gif This is the place where we shall be working together wink.gif

In order for you to become a good improviser, you need to master your instrument very well so I would be curious to know if you can send any recordings where you are playing something so I will know on what terms do we start wink.gif

2 hrs a day can work wonders if used properly and with the right focus - we shall cover rhythm, phrasing, ear training, theory and technique - which are your favorites? i would recommend starting out with vibrato, bending, alternate picking and legato as these are the most important.

let's rock!

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Hey matey smile.gif out of what I am hearing you can phrase and play pretty advanced stuff! Very good! I think timing, tightness and articulation should be your focus at this point, alongside theory.

Tell me, what theoretical notions do you know?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 10 2012, 12:39 PM) *
Hey matey smile.gif out of what I am hearing you can phrase and play pretty advanced stuff! Very good! I think timing, tightness and articulation should be your focus at this point, alongside theory.

Tell me, what theoretical notions do you know?

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Hey..

As far as theory goes... i did start reading music for a few months .. so know a bit of that... (very very less)

Know the major scale... know the pentatonics, arpegios -- but i feel that i would need a brush up on everything.... !!

i knew the 5 box of all scales... knew the Cycle of fifths.... and many others...

But then i think i dont remember much of anything... i think last i looked at theory was around 2 yrs back!!!


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Alrightie! Let's use the circle of fifths (fourths) to start with and based on it, form each major scale and its relative minor, by using the major scale formula smile.gif is it doable? I mean, are you familiar with the circle?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 10 2012, 12:54 PM) *
Alrightie! Let's use the circle of fifths (fourths) to start with and based on it, form each major scale and its relative minor, by using the major scale formula smile.gif is it doable? I mean, are you familiar with the circle?

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Hi

I will have to google and search for it... i really dont remeber that much...

i remember that the major scale is taken around the clockkwise circle

What exactly should i start doing ?? Do i list down the major scales and their relative minors on paper or do i learn the positions of major and mino scales and their notes


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Hey mate, the circle of fifths will basically show you the notes starting from C and if you go clockwise, you will add sharps and go from fifth to fifth, while counterclockwise you will go from 4th to 4th and add flats.

You can start with the 5ths and try to apply the W W H W W W H formula in order to figure out each scale smile.gif

Then you can try to apply each of the found scales in as many positions on the neck as possible, implying 1 string, 2 strings and so on smile.gif your instrument has 3 dimensions - horizontal, vertical and diagonal look at it like that wink.gif what sort of possibilities does this offer for learning your scales?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 11 2012, 09:58 AM) *
Hey mate, the circle of fifths will basically show you the notes starting from C and if you go clockwise, you will add sharps and go from fifth to fifth, while counterclockwise you will go from 4th to 4th and add flats.

You can start with the 5ths and try to apply the W W H W W W H formula in order to figure out each scale smile.gif

Then you can try to apply each of the found scales in as many positions on the neck as possible, implying 1 string, 2 strings and so on smile.gif your instrument has 3 dimensions - horizontal, vertical and diagonal look at it like that wink.gif what sort of possibilities does this offer for learning your scales?

Cosmin


Hi

Here is how i started ..

I am following the WWHWWWH and accordingly made the scale...

For A major scale - it will come to A B C# D E F G# -- but when i see from the cycle of fifth i see it says 3# ?? Can you explain this/..

I am starting with the 5 boxes
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=5040


What do you suggest ??



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also can you suggest some exercises to help build speed ...that i can do on a daily basis


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Hey man! It's very simple smile.gif

The formula is this one, right? w w h w w w h that meaning for A major:

A (w) B (w) C# (h) D (w) E (w) F# (w) G # (g) A

this is how the formula builds the scale smile.gif is it clear? If not, let me know so that I may try to explain in depth wink.gif

for speed picking, you should try to start with this one:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/

it's going to do a lot of good, even though you may find it too easy smile.gif let me know. k?

Cosmin

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Hi

Here is how i started ..

I am following the WWHWWWH and accordingly made the scale...

For A major scale - it will come to A B C# D E F G# -- but when i see from the cycle of fifth i see it says 3# ?? Can you explain this/..

I am starting with the 5 boxes
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=5040


What do you suggest ??



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Hi

Yes i understood -- after E i was just taking the whole as F and was not actually doing 2 semi tones up to reach F#.

After hearing it -- yes its easy but i will l do it .!!! i am all ready to change and adopt whatever ways to help build up my skills..


What ways do you suggest about the Major Scale ?? I read the cycle of fifth at andrew theory board and got a good understanding + as i said i have now started the 5 boxes -- so i am able to play all 5 shapes now...

What ways should i proceed now ?? Should i just first keep building on speed on these scales and then see how the notes are related and how one box leads to 2nd ??

This is where i have always lost track... couple of years back i did the boxes but then i got confused as to how should i go further ...


QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 16 2012, 01:03 PM) *
Hey man! It's very simple smile.gif

The formula is this one, right? w w h w w w h that meaning for A major:

A (w) B (w) C# (h) D (w) E (w) F# (w) G # (g) A

this is how the formula builds the scale smile.gif is it clear? If not, let me know so that I may try to explain in depth wink.gif

for speed picking, you should try to start with this one:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/

it's going to do a lot of good, even though you may find it too easy smile.gif let me know. k?

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hey mate! No fear! biggrin.gif C-man is here! Check this out - a good approach right now would be to start working on learning how to harmonize the major scale tongue.gif as from THIS Point on, your journey begins.

So, I suggest the following - harmonizing means attaching a chord to each step of the major scale, each chord being made up by notes contained in that scale.
Following this formula: Major minor minor Major Major minor diminished Major, to harmonize the C major scale, we get:

C major D minor E minor F major G major A minor B diminished C major

Can you do the same for another scale? You can find these chords in EVERY position on the neck and start harmonizing from there biggrin.gif

Try as many positions as you like!

After you can o this for several scales, we shall proceed further wink.gif k?

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Hi

Yes i can do that.... i have started with G major scale and its 5 positions so i guess i will start with chords that belong to it.

G A B C D E F# G

So applying -- Major minor minor Major Major minor diminished Major

So in G scales we will have these chords

G Major , A minor, B Minor, C Major, D Major, E Minor, F# diminished and G major --- Correct ??

Also what tis the formula / way to find out the notes of each chord -- i take 1st 3 and 5th note of scales to form a chord ??

can you explain how will i form G major, then A minor, B Minor, C Major, D Major, E Minor, F# diminished



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hey mate! No fear! biggrin.gif C-man is here! Check this out - a good approach right now would be to start working on learning how to harmonize the major scale tongue.gif as from THIS Point on, your journey begins.

So, I suggest the following - harmonizing means attaching a chord to each step of the major scale, each chord being made up by notes contained in that scale.
Following this formula: Major minor minor Major Major minor diminished Major, to harmonize the C major scale, we get:

C major D minor E minor F major G major A minor B diminished C major

Can you do the same for another scale? You can find these chords in EVERY position on the neck and start harmonizing from there biggrin.gif

Try as many positions as you like!

After you can o this for several scales, we shall proceed further wink.gif k?

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hey mate, it's correct!

The idea is fairly simple:

1) The only notes which you are allowed to use are the ones belonging to the scale biggrin.gif
2) You need to harmonize each step, by making up chords using the 1st 3rd and 5th.
3) If we take the first step - G, for instance, we are having G as the first, B as the third and D as the 5th - all these notes belong to the G major scale and it results that we have a major chord.
4) For A minor, we have A as the 1st, C as the 3rd and E as the 5th - because we are only using notes belonging to the G major scale and so on for the rest of the chords smile.gif

Otherwise this chord may have been major for instance, but the note choice dictated by the scale, automatically creates the formula which we have used to harmonize the scale:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
M m m M M m dim M

let me know if this is clear, k? As a task, so that I may convince myself that you understood, please explain the rest of the chords following the process I described above biggrin.gif


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G Major -- G,B,D

A Minor -- A,C,E

B Minor -- B,D,F#

C Major -- C,E,G

D Major -- D,F#,A

E Minor -- E,G,B

F # dimin -- F#,A,C


These should be the notes with each chord -- Correct ?


What do you mean by this line

Otherwise this chord may have been major for instance, but the note choice dictated by the scale, automatically creates the formula which we have used to harmonize the scale:



The above notes for each chord will always remain same -- i.e. be it in whichever scale... -- Correct ??




Another thing -- so i start finding these chords across the neck ?? As all main chords appear at front -- first 4 frets... do i find them there (most i already know) and leave it there ??

If not then do i start finiding notes and making chords somewhr middle and ahead at frets ??

Also do i need to lookinto the power chords for these ? Since power chords will be two notes -- how do i go about it ??


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hey mate, it's correct!

The idea is fairly simple:

1) The only notes which you are allowed to use are the ones belonging to the scale biggrin.gif
2) You need to harmonize each step, by making up chords using the 1st 3rd and 5th.
3) If we take the first step - G, for instance, we are having G as the first, B as the third and D as the 5th - all these notes belong to the G major scale and it results that we have a major chord.
4) For A minor, we have A as the 1st, C as the 3rd and E as the 5th - because we are only using notes belonging to the G major scale and so on for the rest of the chords smile.gif

Otherwise this chord may have been major for instance, but the note choice dictated by the scale, automatically creates the formula which we have used to harmonize the scale:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
M m m M M m dim M

let me know if this is clear, k? As a task, so that I may convince myself that you understood, please explain the rest of the chords following the process I described above biggrin.gif


Cosmin


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Mate, it is correct!

What I meant by that phrase is that the chords appear in this order because of the scale. For instance B couldn't be major in the context of the G major scale, because the B major chord has BA#F# and A# does not belong to the G major scale.

The notes remain the same in whichever scale as long as the chords keep their value, meaning B minor stays B minor smile.gif

Try to find as MANY positions of these chords as possible, imagine that someone shouts a chord progression at you and you have to play it anywhere on the neck wink.gif you know a lot of spots where these chords are so you won't have no problem with that, right?

You can make power chords out of everything smile.gif let's first find as many positions for the normal chords as possible, k?

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