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post Jun 7 2012, 11:29 AM
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I understand the counting. Its just that the chords change so fast. Say, if I play a note or two, the chord is already changed so moving from one scale to another looks confusing. You know, the visualization is hard. Coming up with melody is harder too. smile.gif

I was thinking if we could start with a longer duration of chords.


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post Jun 8 2012, 05:43 AM
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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jun 7 2012, 10:29 AM) *
I understand the counting. Its just that the chords change so fast. Say, if I play a note or two, the chord is already changed so moving from one scale to another looks confusing. You know, the visualization is hard. Coming up with melody is harder too. smile.gif

I was thinking if we could start with a longer duration of chords.

Sounds great I totally understand that it might be confusing!! I will prepare a new track for you in a few hours! Will send you PM when it's uploaded! smile.gif


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post Jun 8 2012, 04:08 PM
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Thanks Alex. If I have to take this one step at a time, I am totally up for it. It just takes to be on the other side. I have been watching Guthries solos and man, I don't know if I will ever be there but the feeling of being there is just so awesome. smile.gif


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post Jun 12 2012, 08:41 AM
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Any thing I can do ? smile.gif


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post Jun 12 2012, 05:29 PM
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So I have a new assignment for you!
Let's simplify everything and start with a blues chord progression!
Here is the track
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/blues-mentoring
So those are the scales I would like you to use

Over E7 chord
E minor pentatonic in this position



Over A7
A minor pentatonic in this position



Over B7
B minor pentatonic in this position


This is a good way to get use to combining pentatonics!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


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post Jun 22 2012, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jun 12 2012, 07:41 AM) *
Any thing I can do ? smile.gif

Hi I just wanted to follow up and see how is the assignment I gave you going? Do you have any questions? Let me know so we can start working on a new mentoring approach! It will be like a collab but one on one! I will be recording solos with you based on your assignments to give you ideas! smile.gif


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post Jul 1 2012, 05:45 PM
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Alex,

Lets leave this for now. As mentioned in the chat, I am learning to master the scales / modes all by myself. I can't find any good tutorial. All I can find is learn CAGED system and some 3nps scales. I am trying both but I am confused on which route to go. CAGED has 5 scale position, 3nps has 7, obviously more to learn. I really want to master this and learn by heart. So, if I am playing G Ionian, I should be able to change to say Eb Phrygian without having to think. smile.gif Please provide any lessons that might help achieve this. I know this will take years but I want to master one scale at a time or even focus on one position. I know Ionian pretty well but not perfectly. smile.gif

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post Jul 3 2012, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jul 1 2012, 04:45 PM) *
Alex,

Lets leave this for now. As mentioned in the chat, I am learning to master the scales / modes all by myself. I can't find any good tutorial. All I can find is learn CAGED system and some 3nps scales. I am trying both but I am confused on which route to go. CAGED has 5 scale position, 3nps has 7, obviously more to learn. I really want to master this and learn by heart. So, if I am playing G Ionian, I should be able to change to say Eb Phrygian without having to think. smile.gif Please provide any lessons that might help achieve this. I know this will take years but I want to master one scale at a time or even focus on one position. I know Ionian pretty well but not perfectly. smile.gif

Thanks,
Chandra

I have a perfect exercise for you! It will help you to master modes plus will bring your alternative picking to the next level! smile.gif
Modes being used:
F# Locrian - G major - A dorian - B phrygian - C Lydian - D mixolydian - E minor
Here it is!
E ||----------------------------------------------3----|
B ||-------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
G ||o---------------------------2--4--5----------------|
D ||o------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
A ||----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
E ||-2--3--5-------------------------------------------|


--5--7--5--3---------------------------------------|||---|---|||
--------------7--5--3------------------------------|||---|---|||
-----------------------5--4--2--------------------o|||o--|--o|||
--------------------------------5--4--2-----------o|||o--|--o|||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2---|||---|---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||---|---|||


----------------------------------------------5----|
-------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
-3--5--7-------------------------------------------|


--7--8--7--5---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------8--7--5------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------7--5--4--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------7--5--4-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------7--5--3---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------7----|
-------------------------------------7--8--10------|
o---------------------------5--7--9----------------|
o------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
-5--7--8-------------------------------------------|


--8--10-8--7---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------10-8--7------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------9--7--5--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------9--7--5-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------9--7--5---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------8----|
-------------------------------------8--10-12------|
o---------------------------7--9--11---------------|
o------------------7--9--10------------------------|
----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
-7--8--10------------------------------------------|


--10-12-10-8---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------12-10-8------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------11-9--7--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------10-9--7-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------10-9--7---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------10---|
-------------------------------------10-12-13------|
o---------------------------9--11-12---------------|
o------------------9--10-12------------------------|
----------9--10-12---------------------------------|
-8--10-12------------------------------------------|


--12-14-12-10--------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------13-12-10-----------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------12-11-9--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------12-10-9-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------12-10-9---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------12---|
-------------------------------------12-13-15------|
o---------------------------11-12-14---------------|
o------------------10-12-14------------------------|
----------10-12-14---------------------------------|
-10-12-14------------------------------------------|


--14-15-14-12--------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------15-14-12-----------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------14-12-11-------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------14-12-10----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------14-12-10--||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||


----------------------------------------------14---|
-------------------------------------13-15-17------|
o---------------------------12-14-16---------------|
o------------------12-14-16------------------------|
----------12-14-15---------------------------------|
-12-14-15------------------------------------------|


--15-17-15-14--------------------------------------||----|----|
--------------17-15-13-----------------------------||----|----|
-----------------------16-14-12-------------------o||----|----|
--------------------------------16-14-12----------o||----|----|
-----------------------------------------15-14-12--||----|----|
---------------------------------------------------||----|----|


-----------------------------------------------14---|
--------------------------------------13-15-17------|
-----------------------------12-14-16---------------|
--------------------12-14-16------------------------|
-----------12-14-15---------------------------------|
--12-14-15------------------------------------------|


--15-17-15-14---------------------------------------|
--------------17-15-13------------------------------|
-----------------------16-14-12---------------------|
--------------------------------16-14-12------------|
-----------------------------------------15-14-12---|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------12---|
--------------------------------------12-13-15------|
-----------------------------11-12-14---------------|
--------------------10-12-14------------------------|
-----------10-12-14---------------------------------|
--10-12-14------------------------------------------|


--14-15-14-12---------------------------------------|
--------------15-14-12------------------------------|
-----------------------14-12-11---------------------|
--------------------------------14-12-10------------|
-----------------------------------------14-12-10---|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------10---|
--------------------------------------10-12-13------|
-----------------------------9--11-12---------------|
--------------------9--10-12------------------------|
-----------9--10-12---------------------------------|
--8--10-12------------------------------------------|


--12-14-12-10---------------------------------------|
--------------13-12-10------------------------------|
-----------------------12-11-9----------------------|
--------------------------------12-10-9-------------|
-----------------------------------------12-10-9----|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------8----|
--------------------------------------8--10-12------|
-----------------------------7--9--11---------------|
--------------------7--9--10------------------------|
-----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
--7--8--10------------------------------------------|


--10-12-10-8----------------------------------------|
--------------12-10-8-------------------------------|
-----------------------11-9--7----------------------|
--------------------------------10-9--7-------------|
-----------------------------------------10-9--7----|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------7----|
--------------------------------------7--8--10------|
-----------------------------5--7--9----------------|
--------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
-----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
--5--7--8-------------------------------------------|


--8--10-8--7----------------------------------------|
--------------10-8--7-------------------------------|
-----------------------9--7--5----------------------|
--------------------------------9--7--5-------------|
-----------------------------------------9--7--5----|
----------------------------------------------------|


-----------------------------------------------5----|
--------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
-----------------------------4--5--7----------------|
--------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
-----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
--3--5--7-------------------------------------------|


--7--8--7--5----------------------------------------||
--------------8--7--5-------------------------------||
-----------------------7--5--4----------------------||
--------------------------------7--5--4-------------||
-----------------------------------------7--5--3----||
----------------------------------------------------||


----------------------------------------------3----|
-------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
o---------------------------2--4--5----------------|
o------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
-2--3--5-------------------------------------------|


--5--7--5--3---------------------------------------|||
--------------7--5--3------------------------------|||
-----------------------5--4--2--------------------o|||
--------------------------------5--4--2-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------7----|
-------------------------------------7--8--10------|
o---------------------------5--7--9----------------|
o------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
-5--7--8-------------------------------------------|


--8--10-8--7---------------------------------------|||
--------------10-8--7------------------------------|||
-----------------------9--7--5--------------------o|||
--------------------------------9--7--5-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------9--7--5---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------8----|
-------------------------------------8--10-12------|
o---------------------------7--9--11---------------|
o------------------7--9--10------------------------|
----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
-7--8--10------------------------------------------|


--10-12-10-8---------------------------------------|||
--------------12-10-8------------------------------|||
-----------------------11-9--7--------------------o|||
--------------------------------10-9--7-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------10-9--7---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------5----|
-------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
-3--5--7-------------------------------------------|


--7--8--7--5---------------------------------------|||
--------------8--7--5------------------------------|||
-----------------------7--5--4--------------------o|||
--------------------------------7--5--4-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------7--5--3---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------12---|
-------------------------------------12-13-15------|
o---------------------------11-12-14---------------|
o------------------10-12-14------------------------|
----------10-12-14---------------------------------|
-10-12-14------------------------------------------|


--14-15-14-12--------------------------------------|||
--------------15-14-12-----------------------------|||
-----------------------14-12-11-------------------o|||
--------------------------------14-12-10----------o|||
-----------------------------------------14-12-10--|||
---------------------------------------------------|||


----------------------------------------------14---|
-------------------------------------13-15-17------|
o---------------------------12-14-16---------------|
o------------------12-14-16------------------------|
----------12-14-15---------------------------------|
-12-14-15------------------------------------------|


--15-17-15-14--------------------------------------||
--------------17-15-13-----------------------------||
-----------------------16-14-12-------------------o||
--------------------------------16-14-12----------o||
-----------------------------------------15-14-12--||
---------------------------------------------------||


-----------------------------------------------3----|
--------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
-----------------------------2--4--5----------------|
--------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
-----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
--2--3--5-------------------------------------------|


--5--7--5--3----------------------------------------|-------||
--------------7--5--3-------------------------------|-------||
-----------------------5--4--2----------------------|-------||
--------------------------------5--4--2-------------|-------||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2----|-------||
----------------------------------------------------|--3----||

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I would like you to start by getting use to those shapes and when you will be learning them try to call out notes it will help you to master the neck better!
And here is a cool part of this exercise!
I played a track and would like you to play along with me! This exercise will help you with picking technique!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/modes-workout

Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


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post Jul 3 2012, 07:57 AM
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Ah this was what I was learning, 3nps. Am into it right away.


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jul 3 2012, 06:57 AM) *
Ah this was what I was learning, 3nps. Am into it right away.

This exercises will work! smile.gif You will learn all modes in no time!


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jul 3 2012, 06:57 AM) *
Ah this was what I was learning, 3nps. Am into it right away.

Hi! How is it going? Do you need help with anything or have any questions? Let me know!


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post Jul 7 2012, 06:26 AM
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Do we actually learn the patterns or notes ? I know the notes all over the neck but trying to find notes of a scale takes some thinking. How does it all come together? With lessons like this, I tend to learn more of pattern than the actual notes. sad.gif


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jul 7 2012, 05:26 AM) *
Do we actually learn the patterns or notes ? I know the notes all over the neck but trying to find notes of a scale takes some thinking. How does it all come together? With lessons like this, I tend to learn more of pattern than the actual notes. sad.gif

You have to do both! I know it's hard but you will get better results! You can also try shifting patterns after you mastered them and this will help you play any mode without knowing notes 100%


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Thanks Alex. need to do this daily. smile.gif


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jul 7 2012, 05:49 AM) *
Thanks Alex. need to do this daily. smile.gif

In a few days I will post a new assignment! smile.gif Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


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post Jul 9 2012, 05:53 PM
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Alex,

I have remembered the pattern and also playing by the mode name like A dorian, C lydian, B Phrygian, E minor, DMixolydian, etc (as given in the tab). I can move around and play E phrygian or E Dorian from the E note, etc. Now, how do we play E Dorian all over the neck, not just one position ? smile.gif

I am excited what the next lesson is. I will take this down all on the ground with your help. smile.gif

Thanks so much.
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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jul 9 2012, 04:53 PM) *
Alex,

I have remembered the pattern and also playing by the mode name like A dorian, C lydian, B Phrygian, E minor, DMixolydian, etc (as given in the tab). I can move around and play E phrygian or E Dorian from the E note, etc. Now, how do we play E Dorian all over the neck, not just one position ? smile.gif

I am excited what the next lesson is. I will take this down all on the ground with your help. smile.gif

Thanks so much.
Chandra

All you have to do is play from the root and that's it!
The best way is just to start using it is to play it all the time! smile.gif So I have a very cool backing track!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/ii-v-i-jam

I would like you to play over it and just start feeling comfortable with it!
Here is what I would like you to use:
Over Emi7
E dorian


Over A7
A mixolydian


Over D major 7
D major pentatonic


D major scale



If you have noticed D major scale is the same as A mixolydian just started from a different note! (D instead of A)
We will start to get into improvisation more it will be like a collab but one on one
I will record my take in a few hours using the same scales that I have provided for you!
In the meantime I would like you to get comfortable with the track and just jam around using shapes I have posted!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jul 9 2012, 04:53 PM) *
Alex,

I have remembered the pattern and also playing by the mode name like A dorian, C lydian, B Phrygian, E minor, DMixolydian, etc (as given in the tab). I can move around and play E phrygian or E Dorian from the E note, etc. Now, how do we play E Dorian all over the neck, not just one position ? smile.gif

I am excited what the next lesson is. I will take this down all on the ground with your help. smile.gif

Thanks so much.
Chandra

Hi! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing?? Any questions?


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post Jul 15 2012, 03:30 AM
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This is where I stuck at Alex. The chord changes are so fast, I can't even remember the pattern. I mean there is litterally 2-3 notes I could play in that chord change. I can't think of now E dorian A mix D major. Its just too fast and my thinking process isn't fast yet I guess.


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Jul 15 2012, 02:30 AM) *
This is where I stuck at Alex. The chord changes are so fast, I can't even remember the pattern. I mean there is litterally 2-3 notes I could play in that chord change. I can't think of now E dorian A mix D major. Its just too fast and my thinking process isn't fast yet I guess.

Give me a few hours I will create a new backing track for you! smile.gif


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