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Hey mate! This is a very interesting analysis because here the textures and atmospheres are what build the whole song. I like how you analysed it, it's very clear and I think that it allows you and every other person that hears the song to understand it deeply.
I'm very glad to know that you enjoyed this process and that you find it helpful. It's very important to keep on analysing songs to incorporate concepts for you own compositions. So.. let's continue with another song.. smile.gif


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post Jan 6 2013, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 6 2013, 08:04 PM) *
Hey mate! This is a very interesting analysis because here the textures and atmospheres are what build the whole song. I like how you analysed it, it's very clear and I think that it allows you and every other person that hears the song to understand it deeply.
I'm very glad to know that you enjoyed this process and that you find it helpful. It's very important to keep on analysing songs to incorporate concepts for you own compositions. So.. let's continue with another song.. smile.gif

Cool. I am glad that you liked it. Is there anything else that you think I should be thinking about or missed? For my next song I would like to use another song by this band but it's not such an ambient style so I can compare simularities and differences in their approach to the different types of songs. What do you think of this one. May take me a bit longer to transcribe but I will get it.


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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jan 6 2013, 05:44 PM) *
Cool. I am glad that you liked it. Is there anything else that you think I should be thinking about or missed? For my next song I would like to use another song by this band but it's not such an ambient style so I can compare simularities and differences in their approach to the different types of songs. What do you think of this one. May take me a bit longer to transcribe but I will get it.


Well, the only thing that you could add to the analysis is the parts durations, maybe in time and also in measures. They keep everything short and I believe that this is the reason why you listen to this song lots of times and you always need more... (it's what happened to me).

This new song has more sections, it's interesting. Also it's very important to analyse many songs from your favourite bands, that when the comparison possibility starts to make sense.


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Hey, man! I slowed this one down a bit to try and nail down the hand sync and timing. It's back at 75%.


This is up to 140 bpm. I went to play with the backing and realized it was a whole lot faster than I had thought. Gotta work it up a little more. smile.gif


And I have still been working the arpeggios. You said to find lines to connect them. This is a lick I came up with that connects a bunch of voicings.


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Hi mate! For any reason this connection is forbiden me to see youtube video.. it says something about SquidGuard. You know, I'm moving and Internet is being installed this Tuesday in my new place. By the way I will check these ones later today or tomorrow. sorry for the delay!



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 13 2013, 10:23 PM) *
Hi mate! For any reason this connection is forbiden me to see youtube video.. it says something about SquidGuard. You know, I'm moving and Internet is being installed this Tuesday in my new place. By the way I will check these ones later today or tomorrow. sorry for the delay!

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jan 13 2013, 05:08 PM) *
Hey, man! I slowed this one down a bit to try and nail down the hand sync and timing. It's back at 75%.


This is up to 140 bpm. I went to play with the backing and realized it was a whole lot faster than I had thought. Gotta work it up a little more. smile.gif


And I have still been working the arpeggios. You said to find lines to connect them. This is a lick I came up with that connects a bunch of voicings.



Hi mate! This place allows Youtube videos! biggrin.gif

You are doing a great job mate! The palm muting exercise could be practiced still slower, there is nothing wrong with your playing, you just need more days of practice... diary training. The second video is better, this one is very close. And the last one is VERY cool! I'm impressed if this is your first lick using the arpeggios concepts... it's time for creating solos! smile.gif

But first... you have to find the major chords and arpeggios, you have to find the 3rd and convert it to major on each shape. Do you think that you can do it?


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 14 2013, 01:55 PM) *
Hi mate! This place allows Youtube videos! biggrin.gif

You are doing a great job mate! The palm muting exercise could be practiced still slower, there is nothing wrong with your playing, you just need more days of practice... diary training. The second video is better, this one is very close. And the last one is VERY cool! I'm impressed if this is your first lick using the arpeggios concepts... it's time for creating solos! smile.gif

But first... you have to find the major chords and arpeggios, you have to find the 3rd and convert it to major on each shape. Do you think that you can do it?

Thanks. I'm glad you my arpeggio lick. I will keep trying to improve it, and linking it to other stuff.

And........I got these major arpeggios. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jan 14 2013, 10:45 PM) *
Thanks. I'm glad you my arpeggio lick. I will keep trying to improve it, and linking it to other stuff.

And........I got these major arpeggios. biggrin.gif



Great mate! I'll install GP in this computer in some minutes and I'll be back if there is something wrong with the arpeggios... but I don't think so... biggrin.gif


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Hey!!!! I slowed down this one a bit more to 75% from 80%. The last lick before the change from the G string back to D string gives me problems every time. I play it by itself 20x fine but always in the whole piece I miss it somehow. laugh.gif



And here is some major arpeggio practice. It was easier than I expected to change patterns. I thought I was going to keep forgeting and go back to playing minor ones all the time. Maybe that's what happens a little bit into the video. biggrin.gif



And I saw this quote somewhere this week reminded me of my practicing a little and why I like posting every week regardless of whether I think I have done anything better. I will have to remember it when I am feeling less than productive. smile.gif

"Those who succeed are the ones that look in the mirror and everyday and see no progress, but continue anyway, knowing they will get there eventually."

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That's a great quote! It's close to one that I wrote down in a paper and it's always close to my sight... "keep going"...those two words,,, it's quite simple, no matter what happens, you have to keep going... smile.gif

I was thinking on adding this lesson... what do you think?

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 21 2013, 02:38 AM) *
That's a great quote! It's close to one that I wrote down in a paper and it's always close to my sight... "keep going"...those two words,,, it's quite simple, no matter what happens, you have to keep going... smile.gif

I was thinking on adding this lesson... what do you think?

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Riff_Master-Thrash/

Short and to the point, I like it. I like to carry motivational stuff written down on paper with me too. Usually in my wallet and unfortunetaly my wallet has a tendancy to go through the wash with my pants, so my list gets rewritten often. biggrin.gif

As for the new lesson.....I AM ON IT! smile.gif


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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jan 21 2013, 01:08 PM) *
Short and to the point, I like it. I like to carry motivational stuff written down on paper with me too. Usually in my wallet and unfortunetaly my wallet has a tendancy to go through the wash with my pants, so my list gets rewritten often. biggrin.gif

As for the new lesson.....I AM ON IT! smile.gif


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Hey, I want to get in on your new collab, and I have been trying to focus on my phrasing with the last couple. Over the Am - F - G - C - F - Dm - E progression does it work to jump between A minor pentatonic, F major pentatonic, G major pentatonic, etc... or a combination of that and arpeggios, or does it fit the style better to stick with one scale? I listened to some Priest the other day to try to get some ideas, are there any particular songs to get a good feel for the style? I have to admit NWOBHM is not something I listen to a lot.


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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jan 21 2013, 10:41 PM) *
Hey, I want to get in on your new collab, and I have been trying to focus on my phrasing with the last couple. Over the Am - F - G - C - F - Dm - E progression does it work to jump between A minor pentatonic, F major pentatonic, G major pentatonic, etc... or a combination of that and arpeggios, or does it fit the style better to stick with one scale? I listened to some Priest the other day to try to get some ideas, are there any particular songs to get a good feel for the style? I have to admit NWOBHM is not something I listen to a lot.


Yes! It's works, but the most important thing is to focus on the arpeggios of each chord, that's the key to make everything sound cool over that backing. Even playing just arpeggios work but it can sounds lazy if you don't compose something creative.


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1 month...1 more month and I will be getting some new gear and hopefully put an end to these recording problems. Sometimes my camera will take decent video somtimes not. Fighting with it takes some of the fun out......New computer, video camera, monitors, and some headphones. I at least got one good one though. I have got this worked upto 160 bpm not perfectly clean but the backing is at 195! blink.gif Almost there.

Oh yeah and I know I named the video as the wrong thing. I don't know what I was thinking.
QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 22 2013, 02:08 PM) *
Yes! It's works, but the most important thing is to focus on the arpeggios of each chord, that's the key to make everything sound cool over that backing. Even playing just arpeggios work but it can sounds lazy if you don't compose something creative.


After learning some arpeggio shapes this is making sense. Thinking back on all the things you have told me about focusing on certain notes. Hopefully I can explain what I noticed, and is correct.
EXAMPLE : a backing of A Mixolydian like the chorus of GMC hit 2. If I apply the first arpeggio shape of A major into A mixolydian, it fits into a G Major scale shape. So I could play the first pattern and add in notes around it in the shape of a G major scale. Or the last shape fits into a B minor scale shape. Am I understanding this better? Did I explain ok?

I also changed the arpeggios into 7 string versions. Is that ok?

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Hi mate, that's a great decision! Having the equipment is shape and working will make you happier and more productive. smile.gif
Your take is good, you still have to practice it to improve your timing but you are on the right track on this lesson. Regarding the Mixolydian mode and the major arpeggios, I'm not really understanding what you mean in the Example, could you please explain it again? Thanks!


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 27 2013, 06:37 PM) *
Hi mate, that's a great decision! Having the equipment is shape and working will make you happier and more productive. smile.gif
Your take is good, you still have to practice it to improve your timing but you are on the right track on this lesson. Regarding the Mixolydian mode and the major arpeggios, I'm not really understanding what you mean in the Example, could you please explain it again? Thanks!

I guess I never thought about how arpeggios fit into a scale, and thought about them as two seperate things. But the different arpeggio shapes fit into different scale patterns depending on the overall key or mode. I was noticing how to see the shape of the arpeggio within different scales, which will make it easier to target those notes while creating lines within the scale in the same position. Hope that makes more sense, I'm not so good at explain these things. smile.gif It's one of those things that when you see it you wonder why you didn't notice sooner.


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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jan 27 2013, 04:38 PM) *
I guess I never thought about how arpeggios fit into a scale, and thought about them as two seperate things. But the different arpeggio shapes fit into different scale patterns depending on the overall key or mode. I was noticing how to see the shape of the arpeggio within different scales, which will make it easier to target those notes while creating lines within the scale in the same position. Hope that makes more sense, I'm not so good at explain these things. smile.gif It's one of those things that when you see it you wonder why you didn't notice sooner.


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Sweet! Arpeggios seem to have made connections with a lot of the theory I already knew, but made it make more sense. I just learned most of my theory from reading articles and there was no real order in which I learned it.....Obviously I skipped the importance of arpeggios. biggrin.gif I think these lessons would be very good for me. Do you want me to work on them or should I get the major and minor arpeggios down first before moving on to these and 7th chord arpeggios? Or maybe I can add one in at a time? What do you think? What would you like me to do? smile.gif


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