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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Feb 27 2013, 10:27 PM) *
It didn't used to be too slow it's a problem that seemed to gradually get worse a little at a time. So I was thinking that as I added more and more songs and software my computer began to get a little full and slow down. I also got an external hardrive to store some stuff on so I can clean it up a bit more. But I did have an issue with the usb cable from my interface last night too. Maybe that is part of the problem. Have you ever had a bad usb cable? Do they go bad?


I have never had problems with an usb cable yet... maybe because these cables use to be quiet all their life in the same position. But if you think that it can be the problem, replace it.


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For practicing, I have been trying to loop sections to learn the piece. Do you think I am jumping to playing with the backing too soon? I did it like you say tonight. Slowed it down looped every section a few times. It felt right. I think I should do it more. Will this help my timing. I really want to improve my timing I feel it is my biggest weakness. What do you think my biggest weakness is?


yes, I think that you still should work at slower tempo until you get a perfect take. I would really like to hear this lesson played perfectly, with a full sound but at the tempo that you can achieve it. What do you think? Is it possible?


QUOTE (vonhotch @ Feb 27 2013, 10:27 PM) *
I saw your thread about your show. It is awesome to see how successful you are becoming. Are you still playing shows like this every week?


Thanks mate! Not every week but we already have 8 shows from March to May. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 28 2013, 01:28 PM) *
I have never had problems with an usb cable yet... maybe because these cables use to be quiet all their life in the same position. But if you think that it can be the problem, replace it.




yes, I think that you still should work at slower tempo until you get a perfect take. I would really like to hear this lesson played perfectly, with a full sound but at the tempo that you can achieve it. What do you think? Is it possible?




Thanks mate! Not every week but we already have 8 shows from March to May. smile.gif


You bring up such a good point. My cable is not quiet and in the same position. I have not set up a permanet place for all my gear so each night I set it up and take it down and that may be taking a toll on my cable. I will replace it!!! If there is doubt then there is no doubt. wink.gif

Here is a take from tonight at 130bpm of the riff master lesson. I set up my new amp in place of amplitube and recorded. I think it worked much better. The original track is at 150bpm. This was kind of a test. I just got some extra cables so I was able to set it up this way today.
I will have more slower video of other stuff I am working on this weekend.


I forgot my weekly goals this week already but I think for now I will say my technique goal until next post is to slow everything down and play with a metronome. To a speed that I can play close to perfect as I can. And my creative goal is to make something for your dub collab. That track is fun as Hell. I have come up with something that I like, I just have to get it just right. My creative goal inside of a goal is to write something within my ability and play it GREAT! I think sometimes I try and write things that are a bit above my current level and that maybe why they do not come out as well as I would like.

8 shows is great. Don't stop sharing them with us I like hearing about them!!!!!!!!! smile.gif
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Hey mate! Great stuff! One of the most said tips for practicing is that we should have our practicing stuff always ready and easy to use, so if you have the possibility of having everything connected and fixed in one place you will find more moments for practice.
The lesson in the video is sounding great!! This is exactly what I was talking about!! Keep on working on it, maybe you can use metronome to work on intermediate tempos until you reach the following backing!!
Regarding your creative job... I want to hear! smile.gif


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 1 2013, 01:00 PM) *
Hey mate! Great stuff! One of the most said tips for practicing is that we should have our practicing stuff always ready and easy to use, so if you have the possibility of having everything connected and fixed in one place you will find more moments for practice.
The lesson in the video is sounding great!! This is exactly what I was talking about!! Keep on working on it, maybe you can use metronome to work on intermediate tempos until you reach the following backing!!
Regarding your creative job... I want to hear! smile.gif


I am going to set up a space this weekend where I can leave everything set up. Have been looking forward to that. Half my practice time is set up and clean up. laugh.gif

I will try to get a recording for you later today! smile.gif


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I am going to set up a space this weekend where I can leave everything set up. Have been looking forward to that. Half my practice time is set up and clean up. laugh.gif

I will try to get a recording for you later today! smile.gif



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I got a work space set up where I can leave all my gear set up and ready to go. I tried to record some stuff this morning and for some reason, everything else worked ok but the volume was extremely low. I will make up for it during the week. It is always something right. smile.gif With everything set up it should be easy to record at any practice session!
This is what I was working on for your collab. (volume was not an issue this time. rolleyes.gif ) It's something like this. I don't have it exactely down. But the first part is tapping arpeggios and the some scale stuff for the last section. Using my amp to get tone is different I can't just save the file. laugh.gif I have to dial it in every time if I change it.
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Hi Vonhotch! I'm really glad to know that you are setting everything to make our diary practice easier and smoother! You will see this reflected in practice time. smile.gif I think that your tone is better now but I think that you still have to experiment with the EQ... are you using a mic in front of the amp? The solo composition is good! I like it.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 4 2013, 01:30 PM) *
Hi Vonhotch! I'm really glad to know that you are setting everything to make our diary practice easier and smoother! You will see this reflected in practice time. smile.gif I think that your tone is better now but I think that you still have to experiment with the EQ... are you using a mic in front of the amp? The solo composition is good! I like it.

Actually I want to experiment with micing my amp and I just got a mic cord today. Right now I have a line running from the line out on my amp to my interface. But I have an old Fender Eighty-Five amp. That I LOVE the tone of but that has no line out so I am hoping to be able to get some decent tone by micing that.

Here is a slower take of the single string etude. I figured out my low volume issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I did miss a small section in the middle and I realized it right after I did it. dry.gif ....Next time!!!!!



Here is another take on the Dub collab. I think it is better and I added some eq. I have a low cut at 105 hz, and a cut of -3.25db at 490hz, and a -5.86dp cut at 5472.3 hz.
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Hi mate, good job! Yeah, the dub collab take sound better, but you would get a warmer and fuller tone if you mic your amp instead of using the line out. Line out are used basically when you have a device that emulates the amp, or at least the cabinet and the mic.
The lesson is on the right way now, try to play it stronger but just increase the tempo once you can play it perfectly. You can increase 5 bpm per time.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 5 2013, 01:09 PM) *
Hi mate, good job! Yeah, the dub collab take sound better, but you would get a warmer and fuller tone if you mic your amp instead of using the line out. Line out are used basically when you have a device that emulates the amp, or at least the cabinet and the mic.
The lesson is on the right way now, try to play it stronger but just increase the tempo once you can play it perfectly. You can increase 5 bpm per time.

Oh, the line out thing makes sense. It did seem to be missing exactly what you are describing, but I wasn't sure what to do about it. I will try to mic it up tonight and see what happens! Does the amp have to be extra loud when recording from a mic?


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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Mar 5 2013, 11:13 AM) *
Oh, the line out thing makes sense. It did seem to be missing exactly what you are describing, but I wasn't sure what to do about it. I will try to mic it up tonight and see what happens! Does the amp have to be extra loud when recording from a mic?


Not necessarily... it depends on the amp that you have and the sound that you want to get. I remember that I used my Marshall 8080 at a low volume to record in the past and I liked the tone that I got. But I put the heads very loud when I'm recording rhythm guitars for an album. The best is to take some hours to experiment. You surely can note the difference in sound when you move the volume of your amp, that's exactly the change that you'll feel in your recording. The mic position is also very important and something that you will have to experiment.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 5 2013, 02:36 PM) *
Not necessarily... it depends on the amp that you have and the sound that you want to get. I remember that I used my Marshall 8080 at a low volume to record in the past and I liked the tone that I got. But I put the heads very loud when I'm recording rhythm guitars for an album. The best is to take some hours to experiment. You surely can note the difference in sound when you move the volume of your amp, that's exactly the change that you'll feel in your recording. The mic position is also very important and something that you will have to experiment.

This is a good video about it:



I miced up my amp and I liked it. I am having issues with clipping on a couple of the pulloffs to open strings. If I turn the volume down any more it will be too quiet. This is a test with amp emulation software and some impulse responses that I like over the other take. In case I can't figure out the clipping or micing by tommorrow for the deadline. I also did a little more eq stuff. I am not sure I like it more. I really liked it with the mic but the clipping really ruined it in a couple spots, and compression seemed to kill it too much.


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Hi mate, your tone is really improving. I think that it still could sound warmer, maybe lowering a bit the treble in your amp and also moving the mic from the center of the speaker to one of the sides. Regarding clipping, what input are you using? (in your computer)


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Hey, I don't have anything too exciting this week, but it is all recorded with my amp miced. Each recording is at a slightly different mic position. There is no eq or anything on them, partly because I was short on time and partly because I wanted your opinion on how it sounded before any extra help.

I bumped this up 5bpm to 90

This is up 5 to 140

And this one I slowed my arpreggio practice way back down like the rest to 120bpm. The first position gives me some trouble.


I am working on getting the right combination between the volume of my amp the mic input volume on my interface and the track volume in my daw.

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Hi mate, good videos! Your tone still sound a bit like "by line" and this could be that your amp volume is a bit low. I would try setting your amp louder and also experimenting a bit more with the mic position to get a more defined sound. There are some low mid frequencies that could disappear. Your playing is very good in every video and I think that working at slower tempos has been is the way to go!
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 11 2013, 12:53 PM) *
Hi mate, good videos! Your tone still sound a bit like "by line" and this could be that your amp volume is a bit low. I would try setting your amp louder and also experimenting a bit more with the mic position to get a more defined sound. There are some low mid frequencies that could disappear. Your playing is very good in every video and I think that working at slower tempos has been is the way to go!
Well done!

Thanks, I like playing them slower and working up slowly, it feels right. I have been recording off and on every night trying out different preset tones on my amp with different mic positions. It's hard to explain the way I had everything set up but I adjusted it so I could get the mic exactly straight with the amp, no angle and sounds a little better. It is still a little "line in" sounding so I am moving it away from center a little at a time. Next I am gonna try to back it up. I am just not finding a spot that records and sounds like what I hear. Since the amp has preset patches I have not been messing with mids or treble or anything just trying the presets first. I have an older Fender amp that I LOVE the sound of, should I try that one too, or just mess with one till I find a good spot?


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Thanks, I like playing them slower and working up slowly, it feels right. I have been recording off and on every night trying out different preset tones on my amp with different mic positions. It's hard to explain the way I had everything set up but I adjusted it so I could get the mic exactly straight with the amp, no angle and sounds a little better. It is still a little "line in" sounding so I am moving it away from center a little at a time. Next I am gonna try to back it up. I am just not finding a spot that records and sounds like what I hear. Since the amp has preset patches I have not been messing with mids or treble or anything just trying the presets first. I have an older Fender amp that I LOVE the sound of, should I try that one too, or just mess with one till I find a good spot?


I'm a bit lost now, so you have 2 fender amps? Which amp has preset tones? Please tell me exactly the model of the amps that you have.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 15 2013, 12:07 PM) *
I'm a bit lost now, so you have 2 fender amps? Which amp has preset tones? Please tell me exactly the model of the amps that you have.

Ha ha, sorry. I guess I was rambling a bit. I have a Line 6 spider IV amp which has the presets, and my old Fender is a model Eighty-Five. I guess I was wondering if I should try both or just work with one til I get one to sound good.


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Ha ha, sorry. I guess I was rambling a bit. I have a Line 6 spider IV amp which has the presets, and my old Fender is a model Eighty-Five. I guess I was wondering if I should try both or just work with one til I get one to sound good.


Now we are talking! Yeah! Experiment with fender amp!


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These lessons are all miced with the fender amp... And after experimenting with that I think that my line 6 amp kept sounding "line in" like because.....Well that's how it sounds. I do think that adding some cab simulation helped though. Enough that I may use it for certain recordings or whatever. The right tool for the job as they say.... Anyway, I managed to try to record one video before some driver conflicts or something put an end to that. So it is just audio this week. But since I did not post last week (shame on me!!!) I wanted to definitely get something this week!

These first two are with a Danelectro "Black Coffee" distortion pedal.
I have forgotten about this one the past few weeks and is at 130 bpm.
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This is up to 140! Only 10 bpm to go!!!!
https://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/riffmaster323/s-pCI58

This one is just amp no pedal. And is 100 bpm.
https://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/singlestring323/s-vCJUM

Oh and...The tone here may not be perfect but, it definitely sounds less digital to me, and has no EQ or compression or anything else. The mic is also at a 45 ish degree angle on the edge of the cone.

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