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Thank you. That is another thing that I need to work on eventually is tabbing by ear.



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Hey man, I need your help on this one again. On this lesson ( https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Old_Sc..._Rhythm_Guitar/ ) at :16, and :56 seconds of the main video there seem to be a couple variations of licks 1 and 3 that I don't see in the tabs. I tried to figure it out this time on my own but I'm not very good so could you check? Thanks.
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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jul 8 2012, 05:25 PM) *
Hey man, I need your help on this one again. On this lesson ( https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Old_Sc..._Rhythm_Guitar/ ) at :16, and :56 seconds of the main video there seem to be a couple variations of licks 1 and 3 that I don't see in the tabs. I tried to figure it out this time on my own but I'm not very good so could you check? Thanks.


Hi mate, this is what's happening at those seconds. You have tabbed well the second one.

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Thanks for taking the time to do that again. I have been working each part seperately then I noticed these when I started trying to put everything together. Theres lots of things about this lesson that seem new to me style wise, but I'm definately digging the funk. Do you think I could also work on learning your new acoustic leason too, or do you think I should stick to one lesson at a time. And for collabs is there a prefered format for submitting your take? I have seen soundcloud files, youtube videos, and just plain mp3's.


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Thanks for taking the time to do that again. I have been working each part seperately then I noticed these when I started trying to put everything together. Theres lots of things about this lesson that seem new to me style wise, but I'm definately digging the funk. Do you think I could also work on learning your new acoustic leason too, or do you think I should stick to one lesson at a time. And for collabs is there a prefered format for submitting your take? I have seen soundcloud files, youtube videos, and just plain mp3's.



Hi mate, I'm glad to know that you could finally learn the whole piece. I think that you could also start with the acoustic lesson, it's not a very long lesson so it won't be difficult to memorize and to start working while you master the funky one. Regarding the files for the collabs, it's ok if you post mp3s or soundcloud links if it's an audio collab and rapidshare links if it's a Video collab.



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Hey man, I would really like to work on something here for your new collab. Maybe this is a dumb question but what is the best way to post things for you as is go, I guess I'm not sure even what to ask or where to start. I've messed around with a couple other backing tracks for other collabs but wasn't really able to nail anything in time, so hopefuly with your help this time I can figure out what has been missing. I have still been working hard on the funk lesson. I'm having trouble getting the chord changes smooth, and funky, but it's getting there.


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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jul 19 2012, 10:34 PM) *
Hey man, I would really like to work on something here for your new collab. Maybe this is a dumb question but what is the best way to post things for you as is go, I guess I'm not sure even what to ask or where to start. I've messed around with a couple other backing tracks for other collabs but wasn't really able to nail anything in time, so hopefuly with your help this time I can figure out what has been missing. I have still been working hard on the funk lesson. I'm having trouble getting the chord changes smooth, and funky, but it's getting there.



Ok! Let's go for it! I think that soundcloud is the best option for in progress solo compositions... if you are posting something for a collab, remember to allow the downloads of the takes that you upload to soundcloud. Please post your progress! smile.gif


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Ok! Let's go for it! I think that soundcloud is the best option for in progress solo compositions... if you are posting something for a collab, remember to allow the downloads of the takes that you upload to soundcloud. Please post your progress! smile.gif


Awesome laugh.gif . Looking forward to your feedback. As soon as I saw you had a new collab up I made up my mind I was gonna get something done this time. Then I sat here for 3 days stumped and could not come up with anything. This is what I came up with this morning, as usually my timing sucks tongue.gif , but this is the direction. I started out in e minor and then went to b minor for the end.

<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F53710967%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-h5qU0&show_artwork=true&secret_url=true"></iframe>


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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jul 22 2012, 12:26 PM) *
Awesome laugh.gif . Looking forward to your feedback. As soon as I saw you had a new collab up I made up my mind I was gonna get something done this time. Then I sat here for 3 days stumped and could not come up with anything. This is what I came up with this morning, as usually my timing sucks tongue.gif , but this is the direction. I started out in e minor and then went to b minor for the end.

<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F53710967%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-h5qU0&show_artwork=true&secret_url=true"></iframe>



Hi mate! the link isn't working, By the way, the first part of the collab is in F#m.


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Hi mate! the link isn't working, By the way, the first part of the collab is in F#m.


Hey, sorry! I know it's in f#m. I was seriously stumped trying to come up with something using f#m that sounded good to me, so I tried some other scales and thought it sounded ok. I'm not sure what my problem was. Hopefully you will not tell me I'm just completely tone deaf biggrin.gif Hope this link works.

http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/90-s-rocker-collabtake1

Well apparentely I can't work soundcloud either, here is the direct link I was trying to embed it, I'm not sure what happened.

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<object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F53999481%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-2RLAk&amp;show_comments=true&amp;auto_play=false&amp;color=21ff00"></param> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F53999481%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-2RLAk&amp;show_comments=true&amp;auto_play=false&amp;color=21ff00" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span>90 s Rocker Collabtake2 by <a href="http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch">VonHotch</a></span>

Hopefully this one works. This is a little bit more dialed in version of the one above. I really like it. I look forward to your feedback, and what I can do to improve it. Thanks.

<object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F53999481%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-2RLAk&amp;show_comments=true&amp;auto_play=false&amp;color=21ff00"></param> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F53999481%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-2RLAk&amp;show_comments=true&amp;auto_play=false&amp;color=21ff00" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span>90 s Rocker Collabtake2 by <a href="http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch">VonHotch</a></span>

Hopefully this one works. This is a little bit more dialed in version of the one above. I really like it. I look forward to your feedback, and what I can do to improve it. Thanks.

Edit: I don't know why I can't embed these I am copying the embed code? Here is the direct link again
http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/90-s-rocker...abtake2/s-2RLAk

Ok trying again. This is a more dialed in version of my first idea above.
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Hi mate, the overall idea sound good. Maybe the solos over the second riff sound too much as an exercises, instead of a solo, I would work on variations for that part. Also there are some technique issues to fix. In the first riff your timing is not tight with the backing track. In the second one, your hands aren't 100% synchronized. Finally the last part sounds better but there are some bends that don't reach the correct pitch.


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Hi mate, the overall idea sound good. Maybe the solos over the second riff sound too much as an exercises, instead of a solo, I would work on variations for that part. Also there are some technique issues to fix. In the first riff your timing is not tight with the backing track. In the second one, your hands aren't 100% synchronized. Finally the last part sounds better but there are some bends that don't reach the correct pitch.


Hey, what do you think about this one I changed up the middle a little bit, and I think my technique is a little better??? And I finally got the soundcloud embedding thing down so thats a win right? biggrin.gif

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Hey, what do you think about this one I changed up the middle a little bit, and I think my technique is a little better??? And I finally got the soundcloud embedding thing down so thats a win right? biggrin.gif

http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/90-s-rocker-collabtake3/s-uXKwa



Hi mate! it's true, your technique is much better in this one. There is something that it's not working, and I think that is the notes election. It seems that you are playing notes, licks and scales without thinking too much on how these ideas sound over each chord. Try to find the target notes, start and end melodies on this notes... the target or most important notes are the ones that belong to the chord that is sounding. Learning major and minor triads always help to this. It also helps using your voice to create the ideas for your solo, instead of just creating it using your guitar. Does this make sense?



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 27 2012, 03:48 PM) *
Hi mate! it's true, your technique is much better in this one. There is something that it's not working, and I think that is the notes election. It seems that you are playing notes, licks and scales without thinking too much on how these ideas sound over each chord. Try to find the target notes, start and end melodies on this notes... the target or most important notes are the ones that belong to the chord that is sounding. Learning major and minor triads always help to this. It also helps using your voice to create the ideas for your solo, instead of just creating it using your guitar. Does this make sense?


Ok, you are right I did not really have a plan, I was just running through E minor. I did choose E minor because I thought I heard a C5 in the begining part, I get what you are saying about choosing notes to highlight the chords, so I will try to figure out the progression, and have a plan instead of just running through a scale til it sounds good. And I'm assuming this was meant towards the middle section again or the whole piece?


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Ok, you are right I did not really have a plan, I was just running through E minor. I did choose E minor because I thought I heard a C5 in the begining part, I get what you are saying about choosing notes to highlight the chords, so I will try to figure out the progression, and have a plan instead of just running through a scale til it sounds good. And I'm assuming this was meant towards the middle section again or the whole piece?



Well, there is a problem also with the scale that you used. The tunes is in F# minor until 00:30 when it modulates to B minor. These are the two scales that you should use....


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Well, there is a problem also with the scale that you used. The tunes is in F# minor until 00:30 when it modulates to B minor. These are the two scales that you should use....


Ok, I'm gonna start over. Can you help me out with what the chord progression is? I would like to try to figure it out on my own, but I am just not hearing it correctly. Sorry, and thanks.


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Ok, I'm gonna start over. Can you help me out with what the chord progression is? I would like to try to figure it out on my own, but I am just not hearing it correctly. Sorry, and thanks.


sure! this is the transcription! wink.gif

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sure! this is the transcription! wink.gif

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Thanks, here are some takes from today I tried to put more thought into highlighting the key and where I started? and stopped. Hopefully it shows. They are pretty rough but wanted to see if you thought it was the right direction, or sounded like I had understood what you told me. What is it that determines that to be in the f#m, I am confused because it has both c and a7 in one measure, and g and f#m in another. Does it come down to it starting on f#?

http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/90-s-rocker-collabtake4/s-mhzjy

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Hey, this is from today. A little more refined from the versions above.
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