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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 28 2012, 12:33 PM) *
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I was working on the the first part of the surf rock collab and I have something and I have done it in two different ocataves and I'm not sure which one fits better. I think think the higher one fits with the rest better, but the lower one breaks it up a little and I'm not sure if I like the higer octave just because of a tone issue of the lower one. What do you think. Part of me was just happy with myself for being able to write a part and move it around biggrin.gif

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Hi Vonhotch! Both takes sound cool but I also think that the first one (the lower) fits better with the track. However I would work a bit more on the EQ of that guitar... Try boosting some high mids and high frequencies and maybe lowering some bass frequencies to make it sound a bit clearer. Compare your guitar sound with bands of this style... you can check The Tormentos.



Your take also have some timing issues in some sections, review that too if you want to have a perfect take! wink.gif

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 31 2012, 02:13 PM) *
Hi Vonhotch! Both takes sound cool but I also think that the first one (the lower) fits better with the track. However I would work a bit more on the EQ of that guitar... Try boosting some high mids and high frequencies and maybe lowering some bass frequencies to make it sound a bit clearer. Compare your guitar sound with bands of this style... you can check The Tormentos.



Your take also have some timing issues in some sections, review that too if you want to have a perfect take! wink.gif

Ha I love that video. I got a take I think is a little better I played with an eq and also some of the settings on the reverb plugin which seemed to help clear it up some to. Now that I got one I like I think I'm gonna try some other combinations of effects and see if I can get a tone a little clearer yet.
http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/surferc/s-DCHUQ

I saw someone mention somewhere in another thread that soundcloud seems to darken a track a little, and I seem to notice that a bit. Do you have any suggestions for maybe a preventative measure my tracks seem a little dark and thick to begin with and they seem to get thicker when uploaded? A little more eqing maybe? Different patches?

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Sep 2 2012, 01:53 PM) *
Ha I love that video. I got a take I think is a little better I played with an eq and also some of the settings on the reverb plugin which seemed to help clear it up some to. Now that I got one I like I think I'm gonna try some other combinations of effects and see if I can get a tone a little clearer yet.
http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/surferc/s-DCHUQ

I saw someone mention somewhere in another thread that soundcloud seems to darken a track a little, and I seem to notice that a bit. Do you have any suggestions for maybe a preventative measure my tracks seem a little dark and thick to begin with and they seem to get thicker when uploaded? A little more eqing maybe? Different patches?


Cool take mate! I didn't know about that Soundcloud issue. You can add some high frequencies to your track, or maybe use any harmonics exciter to make the take sound brighter if you prefer it. Another trick is adding some EQ to the reverb effect. If you make a cut of the lower frequencies the effect will sounds clearer. I like the new take but I think that it could sound even clearer.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 2 2012, 08:59 PM) *
Cool take mate! I didn't know about that Soundcloud issue. You can add some high frequencies to your track, or maybe use any harmonics exciter to make the take sound brighter if you prefer it. Another trick is adding some EQ to the reverb effect. If you make a cut of the lower frequencies the effect will sounds clearer. I like the new take but I think that it could sound even clearer.


I found a harmonic exciter to mess around with. I got rid of an overdrive I was using at the beginning of my effects chain and that seemed to help a lot too. I think it sounds better, I posted my takes, hope you like them. And I thought I had my webcam working and then it stopped again dry.gif so my weekly funky post is just audio again. I fall apart a little in the 3rd part, I have trouble with those chord changes at full speed still.
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I found a harmonic exciter to mess around with. I got rid of an overdrive I was using at the beginning of my effects chain and that seemed to help a lot too. I think it sounds better, I posted my takes, hope you like them. And I thought I had my webcam working and then it stopped again dry.gif so my weekly funky post is just audio again. I fall apart a little in the 3rd part, I have trouble with those chord changes at full speed still.
http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/funk92/s-CL17o



yeah! I just checked your takes at the collab's thread and now the tone is clear! Well done! smile.gif what harmonic exciter did you use?

and this Funk lesson is getting better! You timing is even better now. I think that with some more practice and concentrating on groove you will take your playing to a new level. Keep on the good job! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 3 2012, 01:18 PM) *
yeah! I just checked your takes at the collab's thread and now the tone is clear! Well done! smile.gif what harmonic exciter did you use?

and this Funk lesson is getting better! You timing is even better now. I think that with some more practice and concentrating on groove you will take your playing to a new level. Keep on the good job! smile.gif

Thanks! biggrin.gif This is the harmonic exciter I downloaded

http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=synthedit...n%2Fp_vst%2Ehtm
Although I didn't actually get to try it yet. When I took out the overdrive pedal it really made a big difference. I had read somewhere that putting an overdrive pedal at the begining of the chain without any gain can act as a signal booster, but I guess in this case, this pedal was adding a lot of mud. Do you have a certain order of things or plugins that you run? You gave me so many great tips and suggestions on this one I definately learned a ton!!!!

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Sep 3 2012, 01:40 PM) *
Thanks! biggrin.gif This is the harmonic exciter I downloaded

http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=synthedit...n%2Fp_vst%2Ehtm
Although I didn't actually get to try it yet. When I took out the overdrive pedal it really made a big difference. I had read somewhere that putting an overdrive pedal at the begining of the chain without any gain can act as a signal booster, but I guess in this case, this pedal was adding a lot of mud. Do you have a certain order of things or plugins that you run? You gave me so many great tips and suggestions on this one I definately learned a ton!!!!


Hi mate, yes, you are right about the addition of a overdrive pedal, but maybe it was the wrong pedal or at least you should eq it. The tube screamer is very used in front of the amps to have more gain and sustain for solos and melodies. However, one thing that you need to have always in mind is that it is always better to add less to the chain. First try to get a good tone from your amp and then, if there is something lacking you can add a processor or pedal for it. That exciter looks like the one that I use... it is one from Emi that is called "Presence". Sometimes I use the exciter from Izotope.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 4 2012, 12:44 PM) *
Hi mate, yes, you are right about the addition of a overdrive pedal, but maybe it was the wrong pedal or at least you should eq it. The tube screamer is very used in front of the amps to have more gain and sustain for solos and melodies. However, one thing that you need to have always in mind is that it is always better to add less to the chain. First try to get a good tone from your amp and then, if there is something lacking you can add a processor or pedal for it. That exciter looks like the one that I use... it is one from Emi that is called "Presence". Sometimes I use the exciter from Izotope.

I will try to remember to simplify. It's easy to get carried away with effects. I will check out those exciters. I picked this one to try because....well it only had two knobs.. some of the effects I've found have way more buttons than I know what to do with. tongue.gif

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I will try to remember to simplify. It's easy to get carried away with effects. I will check out those exciters. I picked this one to try because....well it only had two knobs.. some of the effects I've found have way more buttons than I know what to do with. tongue.gif


hahah another example of the less the better!! tongue.gif

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hi mate! Thanks for this one! I think that this one needs some more work at slower tempo, concentrating on the precision of each hand and also on the synchronism of both. Your right hand will be less rigid and your left hand more comfortable with the triads if you play this slower. By the way you are doing a great job! Keep on the hard work. wink.gif

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 10 2012, 03:42 AM) *
hi mate! Thanks for this one! I think that this one needs some more work at slower tempo, concentrating on the precision of each hand and also on the synchronism of both. Your right hand will be less rigid and your left hand more comfortable with the triads if you play this slower. By the way you are doing a great job! Keep on the hard work. wink.gif

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Posting regularly and getting your feedback everyweek has really helped. I have been trying to treat everything I do here as if I am enrolled in GMC university and these are classes with homework and stuff. This is really becomeing like the musical schooling I've never been able to have. I'm learning so much so fast about everything I want to learn about, I can't imagine much better of an education smile.gif At least for my situation.
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Posting regularly and getting your feedback everyweek has really helped. I have been trying to treat everything I do here as if I am enrolled in GMC university and these are classes with homework and stuff. This is really becomeing like the musical schooling I've never been able to have. I'm learning so much so fast about everything I want to learn about, I can't imagine much better of an education smile.gif At least for my situation.
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You can't imagine how cool is to read this mate! I feel very happy of being able to help you in this musical path. GMC is like a music University or maybe even better than that, but everything depends on your discipline. I'm glad to know that you are taking this seriously and that you are starting to notice your progress. smile.gif

My recording goes well! I already recorded guitars, we just have to record vocals and mix.. biggrin.gif

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Hey Gab,
Here is this weeks video. It's at 80%. Felt like playing in slow motion. laugh.gif


I was listening to this song the other day, and I think that it was the first time that I really noticed how things were mixed or layed out. I know you do a lot so analyzing of music, do you ever analyze how songs are mixed? Are you involved in the mixing and mastering of Cirse albums?

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Hi mate! Your new take is better than the previous now. You are slowly starting to master the rhythm of this one. You still have to adjust it but you are on the right track!

Regarding mixing... yes, I mixed both Cirse's Albums (Bi-polar & Imaginario) but I didn't do the mastering because we decided to go for a top level mastering studio. I always pay attention to how the tracks are mixed, so it's very important to have a good pair of monitors or headphones. This AIC track is amazing and the guitar job is very interesting, not only because of the mix, it's also because of the clever arrangement.

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Hi mate! Your new take is better than the previous now. You are slowly starting to master the rhythm of this one. You still have to adjust it but you are on the right track!

Regarding mixing... yes, I mixed both Cirse's Albums (Bi-polar & Imaginario) but I didn't do the mastering because we decided to go for a top level mastering studio. I always pay attention to how the tracks are mixed, so it's very important to have a good pair of monitors or headphones. This AIC track is amazing and the guitar job is very interesting, not only because of the mix, it's also because of the clever arrangement.

The guitars is what really made me notice the mix. So many textures weaving in and out of each other. It's very cool you are able to mix your albums.

I came in here to respond and put on the Alice in Chains song and when it was done this video popped up. I don't know if you know this song but it was HUGE here around the late 80's I was like 9 or 10. I found it REALLY funny, and all I could think about was trying to learn the rhythym for a chance to add it to the guess the riff thread. laugh.gif

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hahaha yeah! this song has been also very big here in Argentina. It sounds like a great idea for the riff thread! biggrin.gif

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