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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 14 2012, 11:25 PM) *
Hi mate! Good job! I can see an improvement of the 3 lessons... I think that we are ready to add some more lessons to work one... something rocker like this:

one idea: (you can search for some other lessons)
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Queens...he-Stone-Metal/

and something using alternate picking to keep on working on that technique...

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Vinnie...yle-patterns-1/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Warming-up-with-Lian/

SWEET!!!!! smile.gif I am on it. Those all look good to me!

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Oct 14 2012, 09:23 PM) *
SWEET!!!!! smile.gif I am on it. Those all look good to me!


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Hey man, here is some video on the new stuff. I used a different program to record and somehow I recorded a mirror image. I'm not actually playing left handed. rolleyes.gif
This one was harder than it looked. I thought I was gonna just run right through it and the first time I played it at 80% I thought my arm was gonna EXPLODE! biggrin.gif Somehow I did it at full speed.


Not sure what to say about this one....It's a mess....Brace yourself. wink.gif

Hope your concert went well. The Evanesance concert was this weekend, right?

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Hey man, congrats for all this hard work!!! I gave you 3 lessons and you learnt them in a week! smile.gif

The lessons sound good, you just need some more time to adjust them and feel more comfortable. The alternate picking ones need to sound smoother, the notes should be a bit longer to sound smooth instead of a bit like if you would emulating an staccato. The rhythm lessons sound really cool, I love that lesson by Adrian, it rocks hard. (I did some headbanging while listening your video. biggrin.gif) So keep on playing this ones some more days and let me know how it feels.

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Thanks! smile.gif That lesson does ROCK. They are all fun. The Vinnie Moore one feels very classical which cool. Can I work on your new collab here? I have been kind of kicking myself because I missed the last one. I really enjoyed working on the surf rock collab in my thread, hopefully someday I will be faster and not miss any! cool.gif I have been wanting to try a collab with my fifths tuning and I think this would be a good one, if it's ok with you?

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yes! let's work on my new collab! Please start posting your ideas! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 23 2012, 03:12 PM) *
yes! let's work on my new collab! Please start posting your ideas! smile.gif

Hey Gabe,
I was all excited to start working on this then I sat down and nothing came out. It took me a couple days to come up with some sort of ideas. My process is jamming over the backing until I find a pocket to play in for each part then I star working on narrowing down the rhythm and exact notes. First I came up with the last section but somehow it I can't quite remember how I played it when I came up with it the first time but this fit the best since the first time. I hate when I play something cool then can't figure it out again dry.gif . So anyway here is my first thoughts. I also have some new things going for my tone. I've got amplitube and I got my fast track interface working so I'm not just plugged into the mic input.
http://soundcloud.com/vonhotch/modernmetalcollab1/s-kCIOv
I know it's really rough I didn't want to wait any longer to started to post something. smile.gif

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Ok, this is a good first step. My suggestion is to continue jamming over this... try to get nicer melodies, (maybe singing before playing) and also some more varied solos in the middle section... used more notes, more rhythms because it's a bit obvious the Phrygian part. I like the last ideas, that repetitive Buckethead style melody... I think that we should use it as the beginning of the take where we have the same progression but with a fast drum loop.

So, the next step... a take with the last idea played in the first part of the backing and maybe 2 or 3 improvisations over the E Phrygian and last A minor progression.

What do you think?

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 26 2012, 03:14 PM) *
Ok, this is a good first step. My suggestion is to continue jamming over this... try to get nicer melodies, (maybe singing before playing) and also some more varied solos in the middle section... used more notes, more rhythms because it's a bit obvious the Phrygian part. I like the last ideas, that repetitive Buckethead style melody... I think that we should use it as the beginning of the take where we have the same progression but with a fast drum loop.

So, the next step... a take with the last idea played in the first part of the backing and maybe 2 or 3 improvisations over the E Phrygian and last A minor progression.

What do you think?

Sounds good. smile.gif For the E Phrygian part, I am thinking that I start on E , finish on E and try to target E and F. Is that right? Can I play E minor blues scale with an F over that?

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Oct 26 2012, 11:23 PM) *
Sounds good. smile.gif For the E Phrygian part, I am thinking that I start on E , finish on E and try to target E and F. Is that right? Can I play E minor blues scale with an F over that?


yes, you are right about this! However you don't have to target F, you have to play it to get the Phrygian vibe, but you don't have to stay to much on that note.

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Hey, here are a couple more takes on collab ideas. I don't know what to think about them. I like the ending, on one take i completely missed the timing though. biggrin.gif
As for my lessons, I didn't practice as much as I should have and it showed. dry.gif I will redeem myself next week. smile.gif





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Here's one more wink.gif
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Hi mate! thanks for this takes! I listened to the 3 takes and I can say that the last part of the second take is the one that I would choose to continue working. I like how this melody starts so maybe you could try to develop it a bit more.

I couldn't find something interesting over the Phrygian section... try to target more the notes from the E minor arpeggio and use the F note to get the Phrygian characteristic sound... also, check out in youtube (or in GMC lessons archive) some Phrygian solos to get ideas on what you can do with that sound.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 29 2012, 06:12 PM) *
Hi mate! thanks for this takes! I listened to the 3 takes and I can say that the last part of the second take is the one that I would choose to continue working. I like how this melody starts so maybe you could try to develop it a bit more.

I couldn't find something interesting over the Phrygian section... try to target more the notes from the E minor arpeggio and use the F note to get the Phrygian characteristic sound... also, check out in youtube (or in GMC lessons archive) some Phrygian solos to get ideas on what you can do with that sound.

Ok. smile.gif
What is your process for coming up with a solo is it anything like this mess or something else?

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Oct 29 2012, 04:38 PM) *
Ok. smile.gif
What is your process for coming up with a solo is it anything like this mess or something else?


I start with a jam, and keep the ideas that I find more interesting to develop them a bit more. Sometimes I also sing a bit over the backing to get some nice melodies. It's usually a combination of playing and mind.... I use a daw to record and re record ideas until I like the overall solo. Sometimes it can take one or two days to find the right lick to end or connect two phrases. When I don't have enough ideas, I keep on jamming and recording myself until something cool appears.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 29 2012, 09:11 PM) *
I start with a jam, and keep the ideas that I find more interesting to develop them a bit more. Sometimes I also sing a bit over the backing to get some nice melodies. It's usually a combination of playing and mind.... I use a daw to record and re record ideas until I like the overall solo. Sometimes it can take one or two days to find the right lick to end or connect two phrases. When I don't have enough ideas, I keep on jamming and recording myself until something cool appears.

Cool sounds about the same except the couple days are more like weeks smile.gif . I found some cool phrygian stuff to get the feeling. Sorry to hear about the flooding there, hope everyone is OK. The power has been flickering on and off here, we are expecting a big storm tommorrow. Crazy weather.

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Oct 29 2012, 08:50 PM) *
Cool sounds about the same except the couple days are more like weeks smile.gif . I found some cool phrygian stuff to get the feeling. Sorry to hear about the flooding there, hope everyone is OK. The power has been flickering on and off here, we are expecting a big storm tommorrow. Crazy weather.



Cool mate! I want to hear that!! Everything is better now here. Thanks for asking. I hope that the storm there isn't hard. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 30 2012, 02:18 PM) *
Cool mate! I want to hear that!! Everything is better now here. Thanks for asking. I hope that the storm there isn't hard. smile.gif

I watched some GMC phrygian videos and then went to you tube and found this video. I thought this was a pretty cool example, however I'm still trying to get something down. I WILL GET IT! Your makeing me look at it differently than I normally would, its good that it's tough! I like the challenge! wink.gif

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That's a really cool jam using Phrygian mode! Great choice for inspiration. The player show really cool ideas and phrases starting at 7:30. That's exactly what you need to incorporate. smile.gif

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I think I got something, my favorite part is the harmonic at the end of the phrygian part. smile.gif It's still kinda rough but I think there are more definite ideas and melodies. I hope. wink.gif
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