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Alex Feather
post Aug 10 2012, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 10 2012, 12:51 AM) *
The theory program sounds very cool!
Thanks for doing this -I know it may become demanding as well.
I think this is a very interesting addition to the Mentoring pgm.

BTW - I am still working on the modes exercise. A bit longer than what I anticipated at first glance.
I guess my memory is failing and I have to get back to reading the tab to follow so it slows me down.
I manage all the modes if I take them slowly while reading them. (Flipping the pages is an issue though.)
I guess it is just a matter of practicing and then I'll remember the patterns.
Obviously it is important to focus on the name of the mode and the key to associate them together.
I think it helps to try to learn by heart the intervallic structure of each mode.
Anyhow, thanks for your mentoring.
This is much appreciated.

JPBluestring. smile.gif

It's my pleasure! I have a few questions posted not sure if you have seen them! smile.gif
After you answer I will get a better idea where to start!


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JPBluestring
post Aug 11 2012, 01:49 PM
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Hi Alex,
I thought these were a few tough examples of what to expect.
Anyhow here it is:

Harmonize G scale
G A B C D E F G
HARMONIZED WITH A 3RD
B C D E F G A B

A7 Chord
Would be A dominant 7
Chord structure 1, 3, 5, b7
A C E F#

ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
Thricky starting on a ii with a minor 7th
My guess: Cmi7 Fmaj Dmaj ? (Need to understand the intricacies here)

D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?
D minor

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post Aug 11 2012, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 11 2012, 12:49 PM) *
Hi Alex,
I thought these were a few tough examples of what to expect.
Anyhow here it is:

Harmonize G scale
G A B C D E F G
HARMONIZED WITH A 3RD
B C D E F G A B

A7 Chord
Would be A dominant 7
Chord structure 1, 3, 5, b7
A C E F#

ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
Thricky starting on a ii with a minor 7th
My guess: Cmi7 Fmaj Dmaj ? (Need to understand the intricacies here)

D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?
D minor


You did a very good job!
A few things:
I would like you to harmonize G major scale with chords
Gmaj7 - Ami7 etc.

Please check out A7 chord there is a mistake! I would like you to find it yourself smile.gif

We will comeback to II - V - I chord progression after the first two challenges and you will see why later! smile.gif

You are absolutely correct about the chord progression but there is an alternative!
The key progression can be in two keys Bb/Gmi and F/Dmi
here is how to look at it:
D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F
F/Dmi major scale harmonized:
F - Gmi - Ami - Bb - C - Dmi - E dim

Bb/Gmi major scale harmonized:

Bb - Cmi - Dmi - Eb - F - Gmi - Adim

You can see that the triads are the same in both keys so unless I will be using 7th chords it can be both!

Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!


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post Aug 12 2012, 10:18 PM
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1) Determine A7 structure
I think I will need some help here.
I know the A7 chord per se.
From the fretboard I read from 6th string to 1st: E A E G C# E

However, from the theory
I perspective over A7 is A Dominant 7
Structure: 1, 3, 5, b7
Which would yield:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1 3 5 7b
A C E Gb
Whats wrong in my theory?

2) Harmonizing the G scale with chords
:
Maj Min Min Maj Maj Min Min
Gmaj Ami Bmi Cmaj Dmaj Emi Fmi

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Thanks for your help

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post Aug 14 2012, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 12 2012, 09:18 PM) *
1) Determine A7 structure
I think I will need some help here.
I know the A7 chord per se.
From the fretboard I read from 6th string to 1st: E A E G C# E

However, from the theory
I perspective over A7 is A Dominant 7
Structure: 1, 3, 5, b7
Which would yield:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1 3 5 7b
A C E Gb
Whats wrong in my theory?

2) Harmonizing the G scale with chords
:
Maj Min Min Maj Maj Min Min
Gmaj Ami Bmi Cmaj Dmaj Emi Fmi

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Thanks for your help

JP

Let's focus on A7 first!
Try to figure out what A7 is a dominant of? As you know dominant is V
Let me know!


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post Aug 14 2012, 08:55 PM
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To your Q: b7 or flattened 7th degree from A

Applying the ionian/major scale to my count would work better indeed.
Here we go for the A7 structure: 1, 3, 5, b7

W W h W W W
A B C# D E F# G#
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Not forgetting that the 7th is flattened, we get A7
A - C# - E - G

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post Aug 15 2012, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 14 2012, 07:55 PM) *
To your Q: b7 or flattened 7th degree from A

Applying the ionian/major scale to my count would work better indeed.
Here we go for the A7 structure: 1, 3, 5, b7

W W h W W W
A B C# D E F# G#
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Not forgetting that the 7th is flattened, we get A7
A - C# - E - G

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Now you are absolutely correct! Good job!
I have created a new backing track!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/chord-progression
The chord progression is:
Dmi - Bb - Gmi - F
I would like you to create a solo pretending it is in the key of F
You can use
D minor pentatonic
F major pentatonic
F major scale
D minor scale
Try to be as melodic as possible and let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything! smile.gif


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post Aug 15 2012, 11:09 PM
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Nice backing!!!
Thanks this seems to be an interesting challenge.
I like 'pretending'. (Reminds me of a great song from Eric Clapton,.. Pretending! Hum hum!)

JPBluestring

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post Aug 16 2012, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 15 2012, 10:09 PM) *
Nice backing!!!
Thanks this seems to be an interesting challenge.
I like 'pretending'. (Reminds me of a great song from Eric Clapton,.. Pretending! Hum hum!)

JPBluestring

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Lol! I am looking forward to hear your take!!!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything! wink.gif


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post Aug 20 2012, 04:45 PM
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Hi Alex,
Hope you had a good week-end (well deserved)
I don't know if my take will cut it but here it is.
Pretending to be in the key of F ( wink.gif ) ...
and incorporated progression using Dmin penta, Dmin, Fmai penta and Fmaj
Finally, tried to chip in a G dorian mode scale just to see how it goes.
I know my timing could be better at the end of the soloing.
I guess with a little more practice it would improve.
(Hey, I also tried at the beginning to include a Call/Answer technique wit a few silence here and there!)

I hope you like like it.

JPB

http://soundcloud.com/jpbluestring/pretending-k-of-f-progression
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post Aug 20 2012, 10:24 PM
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Second download - Sorry.

http://soundcloud.com/jpbluestring/pretending-k-of-f-progression

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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 20 2012, 09:24 PM) *


I like your ideas a lot! Great job! very nice sound and playing! smile.gif
I have a new challenge for you!
I would like you to create a solo from the beginning to the end
First part start very slowly with a very low dynamic and bring it up towards the middle and than drop down again! smile.gif I am not gonna give you any ideas yet and would like to hear what you can come up with! smile.gif


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post Aug 22 2012, 01:57 AM
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Clarification please:

( I used your backing above (post 67) where you were only playing rhythm over a drum track - no solo ideas. I added some chords in the background and my own solo ideas from beginning to end)

Is this to say that you want me to create my own backing track and then solo over it progressively and leave half of it with just the backing for the reminder of the track?

Thanks.

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post Aug 23 2012, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 22 2012, 12:57 AM) *
Clarification please:

( I used your backing above (post 67) where you were only playing rhythm over a drum track - no solo ideas. I added some chords in the background and my own solo ideas from beginning to end)

Is this to say that you want me to create my own backing track and then solo over it progressively and leave half of it with just the backing for the reminder of the track?

Thanks.

JPB smile.gif

No, use the backing track I gave the one in the key of F you and just write a solo from the beginning to the end!
I want you to compose a solo with the main melody and culmination! you are limited with the chords only but you can use any scales and any shapes! smile.gif


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post Aug 26 2012, 02:36 AM
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Hi Alex,

Here is a second attempt.
I hope I understand the homework this time!
I tried to be more progressive and build it up.

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http://soundcloud.com/jpbluestring/pretending-k-of-f_2
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post Aug 27 2012, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 26 2012, 01:36 AM) *
Hi Alex,

Here is a second attempt.
I hope I understand the homework this time!
I tried to be more progressive and build it up.

??

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JPBluestring

http://soundcloud.com/jpbluestring/pretending-k-of-f_2


You did a great job! I love your tone and you did an amazing job on the melody!!!
I will create a new assignment in a couple of days! smile.gif
Keep it up!


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post Aug 27 2012, 11:36 PM
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Thanks Alex,

Glad you like it!
I see the progress. You are pointing me in the right direction. I can feel it.
BTW - Last chat was an eye opener for me. Thanks again.
I am starting to put everything together.
I think you are gonna change my life as Kris put it for the Mentoring Program!

JPB
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post Aug 31 2012, 03:05 AM
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QUOTE (JPBluestring @ Aug 27 2012, 10:36 PM) *
Thanks Alex,

Glad you like it!
I see the progress. You are pointing me in the right direction. I can feel it.
BTW - Last chat was an eye opener for me. Thanks again.
I am starting to put everything together.
I think you are gonna change my life as Kris put it for the Mentoring Program!

JPB

Awesome! I am glad you liked it! I am very happy to help and glad that my chats are working out for you! smile.gif
Since you have mentioned the last video chat let's have fun!

Here is the chord progression from last assignment!
Dmi - Bb - Gmi - F

I would like you to play different pentatonics over each chord!
D minor over Dmi and F



G minor over Bb and Gmi


Try it out! And I will join you for the next take! smile.gif
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!


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post Sep 2 2012, 11:33 PM
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Here we go. Only pentatonics ovwer the chords as laid out!
Tried to stick with the program as best as I could while keeping the melody.
Hope you concurr ( wink.gif )

JPB smile.gif

http://soundcloud.com/jpbluestring/pretending-k-of-f-3
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post Sep 3 2012, 02:52 PM
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[quote name='JPBluestring' date='Sep 2 2012, 10:33 PM' post='604624']
Here we go. Only pentatonics ovwer the chords as laid out!
Tried to stick with the program as best as I could while keeping the melody.
Hope you concurr ( wink.gif )

JPB smile.gif


http://soundcloud.com/jpbluestring/pretending-k-of-f-3
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