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post May 4 2012, 01:43 PM
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I was reading an article that says lots more young Italians are turning to the traditional job of being a shepherd as they can't find work. I must admit that I can't blame them.

I'd be willing to bet that a lot of these guys will be happier doing this then they would ever be doing anything else. What do you guys think ? Do you think you could enjoy the life of a shepherd ? The solitude, living with nature, no modern day pressure and society issues. It does sound quite good.

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/young-ita...-202814465.html

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post May 4 2012, 02:30 PM
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I am a Black Metal fanatic laugh.gif

Of course! In fact, I had always romanticised that if I never could do anything musically, I would move to Sweden where my mother's family came from and I would become a shepherd!

Hell, even Varg Vikernes of Burzum owns a farm and shepherds/plows for everything he needs now.


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post May 4 2012, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ May 4 2012, 02:30 PM) *
Hell, even Varg Vikernes of Burzum owns a farm and shepherds/plows for everything he needs now.


Has he been released then ?


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post May 4 2012, 02:48 PM
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I think if I took to Shepherding I would be living in continual fear of being kidnapped, killed and put into Pies, Sweeny Todd style!!!!

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post May 4 2012, 03:11 PM
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There was an article in El Pais a few years ago that rich Spanish business bods were taking shepherding lessons as a means to de-stress.

Don't know if they still do that now that El Crisis has hit Spain hard. They're probably more stressed but may no longer have time and money on their hands...

(Neil - yummy. I love Shepherd's pie. And Cottage pie and Fisherman's Pie smile.gif .)


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post May 4 2012, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ May 4 2012, 03:11 PM) *
Don't know if they still do that now that El Crisis has hit Spain hard.


El Crisis...... Tormenta.... ?

I'm loving these Spanish words ! laugh.gif


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post May 4 2012, 04:36 PM
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Yes life in total harmony.
Sometimes i ask myself if i would do this ....would i be able to cope without the daily stress...

Bring on the border collie!! wink.gif
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post May 4 2012, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (Bossie @ May 4 2012, 04:36 PM) *
Yes life in total harmony.
Sometimes i ask myself if i would do this ....would i be able to cope without the daily stress...

Bring on the border collie!! wink.gif


Haha ! Good call ! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (tonymiro @ May 4 2012, 03:11 PM) *
(Neil - yummy. I love Shepherd's pie. And Cottage pie and Fisherman's Pie smile.gif .)

Me too Tony!!
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post May 5 2012, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ May 4 2012, 01:31 PM) *
Has he been released then ?


Yeah. He was released on parole in March of 2009. He and his current wife own a small farm in Telemark, Norway.

Speaking Of Varg Vikernes, Burzum's new album comes out soon. It has already been leaked, too.


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http://www.simondale.net/house/


its one of the ways back to natural living -

just missing some sheeps right now .

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post May 5 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ May 5 2012, 07:35 AM) *
Yeah. He was released on parole in March of 2009. He and his current wife own a small farm in Telemark, Norway.


Really ?? I can't help but wonder how he managed that, it can't be cheap owning property in such a beautiful setting. It's not like he's amassed a fortune, surely ??

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its one of the ways back to natural living -

just missing some sheeps right now .


That is absolutely beautiful ! Is anybody else thinking it's like the houses in The Shire, in Lord of the Rings ? smile.gif

Notice how they said it was built with help from '..and passers by..' - Excellent ! biggrin.gif


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post May 5 2012, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ May 5 2012, 09:16 AM) *
Really ?? I can't help but wonder how he managed that, it can't be cheap owning property in such a beautiful setting. It's not like he's amassed a fortune, surely ??


Burzum makes a lot of money. He never has to tour or anything(Not that he would). Plus, I am pretty certain that his wife is a Professor of Viking Religion at a University in Norway. She helped him write this book:

http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?e...;target=ABSB042



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post May 5 2012, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ May 5 2012, 10:21 AM) *
Burzum makes a lot of money. He never has to tour or anything(Not that he would). Plus, I am pretty certain that his wife is a Professor of Viking Religion at a University in Norway. She helped him write this book:

http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?e...;target=ABSB042


Yeah I guess there's not much financial outlay in making his records. I know he's got a big, cult following but I'm still surprised that it would bring in much money. Does Burzum have a lot of Merch as well, 'cause that's where a lot of the income is ?

Of all people, sounds like he might have the right idea about making a living from music.. although morally I can't agree with the guy as he never seemed to acknowledge he did anything wrong or showed any remorse.



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post May 5 2012, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ May 5 2012, 09:27 AM) *
Yeah I guess there's not much financial outlay in making his records. I know he's got a big, cult following but I'm still surprised that it would bring in much money. Does Burzum have a lot of Merch as well, 'cause that's where a lot of the income is ?

Of all people, sounds like he might have the right idea about making a living from music.. although morally I can't agree with the guy as he never seemed to acknowledge he did anything wrong or showed any remorse.


He has a lot of Merch. I know he has received a couple hundred dollars from me hahaha.

I really disagree with a lot of his viewpoints, though. His bigotry offends me.

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QUOTE (Bossie @ May 4 2012, 11:36 AM) *
Yes life in total harmony.
Sometimes i ask myself if i would do this ....would i be able to cope without the daily stress...

Bring on the border collie!! wink.gif

You've never owned a border collie have you? Leave the house wondering if they chewed it down. laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ May 5 2012, 10:33 AM) *
He has a lot of Merch. I know he has received a couple hundred dollars from me hahaha.

I really disagree with a lot of his viewpoints, though. His bigotry offends me.


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Yeah, the whole nationalistic... well, let's be honest, racist, stance is very backward. There's quite a lot of that in black metal even to this day. However, it's still a compelling genre. I went through a real phase of it (the music, not the racism !) when I was around 18/19.. Mayhem, Emperor, Satyricon.. the most old school lo-fi I ever got was a Darkthrone album. Nowadays, the only bands from that genre I still listen to are Dimmu, Satyricon and.. (dare I say it ?) Cradle of Filth. Although I'm thinking of finding out my Emperor albums again smile.gif

That's the good stuff about it, it really took you to a different place.. mainly Norway haha laugh.gif

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You've never owned a border collie have you? Leave the house wondering if they chewed it down. laugh.gif


Haha, we have one.. he's very old though now.. but he was a handful when he was younger and more active ! smile.gif


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QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ May 5 2012, 09:59 AM) *
You've never owned a border collie have you? Leave the house wondering if they chewed it down. laugh.gif


This is very true. That is probably the only part about being a shepherd that would be incredibly stressful laugh.gif

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Yeah, the whole nationalistic... well, let's be honest, racist, stance is very backward. There's quite a lot of that in black metal even to this day. However, it's still a compelling genre. I went through a real phase of it (the music, not the racism !) when I was around 18/19.. Mayhem, Emperor, Satyricon.. the most old school lo-fi I ever got was a Darkthrone album. Nowadays, the only bands from that genre I still listen to are Dimmu, Satyricon and.. (dare I say it ?) Cradle of Filth. Although I'm thinking of finding out my Emperor albums again smile.gif

That's the good stuff about it, it really took you to a different place.. mainly Norway haha laugh.gif


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I am appalled by racism. That is the sad thing. There are a lot of National Socialist Black Metal groups to this very day. One thing I am happy about, is that Varg leaves those ideologies out of his music. He isn't a Nazi, though. he is an Odalist. A lot of people within the NSBM genre really dislike him, too. He is hated by all sides.

There are actually a few Black Metal groups around here that are a part of the NSBM genre, and I do have to share the stage with some of them when I play with my Black Metal group, but they know very well to keep their ideologies to themselves around me. I have gotten into a few scuffles because of it laugh.gif

A lot of people dislike Cradle of Filth, but until someone else can scream the way Dani does in "Honey and Sulphur" or "Tragic Kingdom" I will continue to believe that he is awesome. Plus, they put on really great concerts.

Emperor is definitely a favourite. I actually play "With Strength I Burn" as a warm-up song. Oddly enough, the solos are the easiest parts of the song. I still have trouble playing the rhythm directly after the first solo. There are so many powerchord changes at such a high rate of speed(170 BPM) that I mess up frequently.

Also, I think System of a Down got their style solely from the verses of "With Strength I Burn". There is a very noticeable similarity. Good thing I could never find soad interesting enough to listen to, hahaha.



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