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post Jan 31 2013, 08:57 AM
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Hey mate smile.gif I have a suggestion, how about starting with something easier for the ears and then going over to more complex and layered things? This one may have been too tough on you and I don't want you to get frustrated over it - Deal?


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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 31 2013, 08:57 AM) *
Hey mate smile.gif I have a suggestion, how about starting with something easier for the ears and then going over to more complex and layered things? This one may have been too tough on you and I don't want you to get frustrated over it - Deal?


yea im all for it smile.gif anything in particular you had in mind?


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post Feb 7 2013, 10:21 AM
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Yes sir wink.gif What would you say if we begin by sorting out some chords!

The drill goes like this:

- record 10 various chords (all sorts of chord types you know) played randomly with a 2-3 second break between them
- write down their names in ANOTHER order on a piece of paper
- DON'T try to remember the order in which they were recorded

The next day, without looking at the paper - try to recognize what you have played. How many points can you score out of 10? biggrin.gif Be honest with me and with yourself and tell me the results!


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post Feb 7 2013, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 7 2013, 10:21 AM) *
Yes sir wink.gif What would you say if we begin by sorting out some chords!

The drill goes like this:

- record 10 various chords (all sorts of chord types you know) played randomly with a 2-3 second break between them
- write down their names in ANOTHER order on a piece of paper
- DON'T try to remember the order in which they were recorded

The next day, without looking at the paper - try to recognize what you have played. How many points can you score out of 10? biggrin.gif Be honest with me and with yourself and tell me the results!


yea, sounds good smile.gif


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post Feb 7 2013, 08:31 PM
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Let's get to it then wink.gif


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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 7 2013, 08:31 PM) *
Let's get to it then wink.gif


ok, my brother recorded the chords before I left for Australia, about a week ago I think, so its been a long time and I though I picked the chords, he played them in whatever sequence he felt like, and after a busy week, I could barely remember any chords I had listed at all... so it was a fairly "sincere" test.

Results; I was able to detect 4 chords correct, while I had the right tonality of all 10 (major/minor, didn't go any more advanced than that)
I'd say thats about what I expected; just about ok.

long way to go on the ears... and its unfortunately something I really don't like practicing, too tedious... =/
I know its an important skill to have as a musician, but still...

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Hey mate, congrats smile.gif It may seem as a small step but - out of what I am figuring out, this is the first time you did this, right?

Anyway, here's what I suggest - let's keep working in this direction and get your ears further and further and in the same time, tell me what else would interest you so that I may come up with a way to make things interesting smile.gif


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Yea, was first try. Sure, I'll keep peeking at that track until I got it perfect, then I'll make a new one.
As for other direction, I'm not really sure... Recently bought ProTools 10 and a bundle of instruments from EWQL, so I've had a lot of fun fiddling around with those instruments. However, I'm still not able to turn pieces into a cohesive song.
Also I'd like to develop guitar technique, but with the abundance of videos here its tricky to find one to start with. I went with the Land of Legato series for a while, but again, grew tired of it and forgot...

Here's to dedication of 2013, cheers


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post Feb 20 2013, 09:33 AM
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smile.gif Let's put it another way biggrin.gif What's your favorite technique?


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Hm thats a tough one... I'm thinking usually whatever sounds best, which differs on whats playing in the background...
But I use a lot of hammer-on/pull-offs, and I'm a fan of sweeping and tapping, but I've never had the patience to develop any real skills at that. I also like general speed-picking buildups (think John Petrucci or Dan Donegan).
Maybe better describe what styles I like; Synyster Gates of Avenged Sevenfold, John Petrucci of Dream Theater, Jorn Viggo Lofstad of Pagans Mind, and the styles of bands Hammerfall, Anberlin and Alter Bridge, Bullet for my Valentine, Disturbed, early John Mayer, Sonata Arctica and Shinedown.

Bit many to chose from there, but I think all deserve a mentioning..

Does this give you any ideas for future course of action ? smile.gif


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Sure smile.gif You like a lot of the bands I like biggrin.gif

I suggest we aim for rhythmic development, alternate picking and legato (this will be a good base for tapping later on) and learning, 'in the style of' lessons, so that you may learn how to emulate the styles of the bands you like. There's tons to learn from that, as long as you don't fall into the trap of wanting to be a copy of your favorites smile.gif

How does this sound to you? Let me know and I'll set up your assignments for this week biggrin.gif

By the way, have you been practicing on ear training lately?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 25 2013, 02:50 PM) *
Sure smile.gif You like a lot of the bands I like biggrin.gif

I suggest we aim for rhythmic development, alternate picking and legato (this will be a good base for tapping later on) and learning, 'in the style of' lessons, so that you may learn how to emulate the styles of the bands you like. There's tons to learn from that, as long as you don't fall into the trap of wanting to be a copy of your favorites smile.gif

How does this sound to you? Let me know and I'll set up your assignments for this week biggrin.gif

By the way, have you been practicing on ear training lately?

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yea that sound great smile.gif
and I'm ashamed to say I've not done any ear training since last report...
But I'll have another round of listening to the first recording again soon, and see how it goes smile.gif


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Ok smile.gif I'll pretend I won't be angry with you - but it's just this once! biggrin.gif

Now, how does this sound - will you be able to take care of the assignments in 14 days let's say?

That means, recording - either video or audio - the choice is yours, but I'd rather have them video so that I may see your positions:

Alternate picking: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/

Legato: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginn...eginner-Legato/

Rhythm: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/how-to...-series-part-1/

In the style of: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Alter-...-Style-Riffing/

How do these look and feel to you mate?

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yea, those look good, the first 2 bit easy, 2 others more challenging I think, but we'll see wink.gif
I'll do one round of ear training pr recording upload, so at least 4 times over the next 14 days

As for video recording - both internal laptop cam and webcam are too slow to capture guitarplaying, but my iPhone seems to follow it alright, if I can just get a tripod or something to support it with, I'll be able to do video smile.gif


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Sounds like a plan and I think the iPhone can be the device for the job - I can usually get very good pictures with my Samsung Galaxy SII so, the iPhone fits the job description as well smile.gif Let me know when you have'em up and of course if you feel like there's any trouble along the way, don't hesitate to tell me

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Hi Cosmin - update time

I've learned the picking and legato exercises, even made a video - problem is, the file is about 200mb, so not quite sure how to send it to you... I used a simple "trial" version of a stock program on my laptop (PowerDVD Director) for putting the files together, and it worked fine, but it seemed a bit restrictive on number of video/audiotracks etc (unless upgrading, ofc...) as well as the size of output. Do you know of any freeware that can do the trick?

For some reason, my ZoomH4 refuses playing the backing track for the legato lesson, so I'll get back to you on the recording of it...
Edit - A quick search of the manual revealed my mistake. Will do the Legato thing tomorrow.

Also, did another round of ear testing. Still getting tonalities right, and this time had 6 correct.
The answers were
Cmaj - Gmin - Dmin - Gmaj - Amaj - Emin - Fmin - Fmaj - Bmin - Dmaj
My guesses were
Bmaj - Bmin - Dmin - Gmaj - Amaj - Gmin - Fmin - Fmaj - Amin - Dmaj

Cheers smile.gif

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found a video compressor - here is my first take.
No editing/eq'ing or anything, just raw vid&audio smacked together
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Attached File  Picking_Exercise.mp4 ( 14.85MB ) Number of downloads: 26
 


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Hey mate! Thanks for the update and for the vids! First time that I actually see you play and I am impressed smile.gif

I think you did a very good job with this and I am looking forward to the legato piece! What I noticed though - towards the phrases at the end, you tended to rush the last note and it doesn't sound like it's completely there - but it's a uber minor detail smile.gif

Go on with the chords man, 6 out of 10 is good but you can do better! If you wish, you can ask your brother to play intervals and you can recognize them! biggrin.gif Turn your back to him and ask him to play random notes in respect to the C note smile.gif


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Cheers smile.gif I havent listened to/seen the video myself (i recorded it about 2am so just wanted to go to bed... tongue.gif) so from what I recall, the rushed notes, in my mind, was my own "groove of it". It sound a bit like an excuse though, or simply not playing right, so I'll keep your comment in mind wink.gif

Well, I think "impressed" should wait for something better than a fairly straightforward picking exercise to be honest, but thanks anyway wink.gif Looking forward to be done with legato lesson (just cus of the hassle of not getting the recorder to work last night) and get on with some proper pieces - Gerbino's and yours smile.gif


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QUOTE (Scorpiotic @ Mar 4 2013, 10:48 PM) *
Cheers smile.gif I havent listened to/seen the video myself (i recorded it about 2am so just wanted to go to bed... tongue.gif) so from what I recall, the rushed notes, in my mind, was my own "groove of it". It sound a bit like an excuse though, or simply not playing right, so I'll keep your comment in mind wink.gif

Well, I think "impressed" should wait for something better than a fairly straightforward picking exercise to be honest, but thanks anyway wink.gif Looking forward to be done with legato lesson (just cus of the hassle of not getting the recorder to work last night) and get on with some proper pieces - Gerbino's and yours smile.gif


True indeed, but it was the first piece I've heard from you and as simple as it is, playing it right does not come as taken for granted smile.gif Since your words sound like a request for raising the bar - I find myself indebted to oblige biggrin.gif But first, let's see the other ones smile.gif


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