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May 21 2012, 10:50 PM
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Got sent a link to this earlier and just thought I'd share this comedic convo with you all!!!
OR ... why every city council needs at least one geek Background: This a default test page that shows up after an install of CentOS. It is slightly different between the 3 centos versions ... here is an example: http://mirror.centos.org/mirrorscripts/noindex_new.html Now, the rest of this story is true ... hard to believe, but true none the less. I will just post the raw e-mails (email addresses removed) and let you see a day in the life of the CentOS Team We want to make it clear that the CentOS team does not support sending derogatory e-mails to anyone. Thank you for your understanding. Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:52:58 +0000 (Wed, 18:52 CST) Jerry A. Taylor submitted the following Information: Email xxxxxxx Company City of Tuttle Location Oklahoma Comments Who gave you permission to invade my website and block me and anyone else from accessing it??? Please remove your software immediately before I report it to government officials!! I am the City Manager of Tuttle, Oklahoma. ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry A. Taylor Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:59:18 -0600 I feel sorry for your city. CentOS is an operating system. It is probably installed on the computer that runs your website. We hope you are happy with it, since we produced it for free and you are able to use it without paying us ... and are even threatening to have us arrested for providing to you free of charge. Please contact someone who does IT for you and show them the page so that they can configure your apache webserver correctly. Thanks, Johnny Hughes, CentOS 4 Lead Developer ----------------------------------------------- From: Jerry A. Taylor To: CentOS Web Site Subject: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:58:31 +0000 (12:58 CST) Jerry A. Taylor submitted the following Information: Email xxxxx Company City of Tuttle Location Oklahoma Comments Get this web site off my home page!!!!! It is blocking access to my website!!!!~! ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry A. Taylor Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:45:37 -0600 It is not a website ... it is the operating system. I would be glad to help you configure your webserver. Do you own the machine that your web site is on, or is it at a hosting provider. If it is at a provider, they need to properly configure their webserver. If it is on your machine, your apache needs to be properly configured. I am assuming that you are seeing a page that looks like this: http://centos.hughesjr.com/testing/noindex_new.html If so, it tells you exactly what needs to be done to fix the problem. If your server is at a provider location, they should be able to fix it if you tell them about the issue. We didn't DO ANYTHING ... that is what the default apache setup looks like if you are running our operating system (CentOS). So how your configuration file has been replaced by the default one ... that is not something that we can do, it is something that might have been done by the administrator of the machine. IF you are not sending these e-mails via the CentOS.org homepage, please reply to this e-mail so that I will know that. Thanks, Johnny Hughes CentOS-4 Lead Developer ----------------------------------------------- From: Jerry.Taylor To: Johnny Hughes Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:54:24 -0600 I do not want this software!!!! This is the City of Tuttle, Oklahoma. Get rid of this software!!!!! Second notice! ----------------------------------------------- From: Jerry.Taylor To: Johnny Hughes Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:58:23 -0600 Johnny, Unless this software is removed I will file a complaint with the FBI. ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry.Taylor Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:18:06 -0600 Jerry, I/We didn't install any software ... I am trying to tell you that. I am asking you as nicely as I possible can to explain what the problem is. I have tried to explain to you what CentOS is. It is an operating system ... a version of linux. It does not install itself ... it requires someone to install it. If you will not let me help you, or at least talk to someone who knows what Linux is, then you will look like an idiot. Your choice. Thanks, Johnny Hughes ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry.Taylor Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:46:40 -0600 Mr. Taylor, My name is Johnny Hughes, I am a software engineer and I am a developer of CentOS. I live in Corpus Christi, Texas. I have been published in several magazines ... here is my latest article: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/65 http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/65/CentOS_4.2.pdf CentOS is a legitimate operating system ... that is what it is. It is like Microsoft Windows, RedHat Linux, or Apple OSX ... It is not possible that it was installed without operator action. I have no idea what you think has happened, nor what has given you the idea that the CentOS Project is involved in any way. CentOS is not spyware, it is not spam. It does not take over websites. If you will not let me help you, find someone you know who is computer literate and has heard of Linux to look at your problem. I am trying very, very hard to save you from great embarrassment. You may certainly call the FBI if you want. I may call some law enforcement agency or attorney myself if you don't stop throwing around accusations and stop threatening me without just cause. Please, for the love of God, either let me help you or talk to a computer administrator who can help you with your problem. Thank You, Johnny Hughes CentOS-4 Lead Developer ----------------------------------------------- From: Jerry.Taylor To: Johnny Hughes Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:15:17 -0600 I have four computers located at City Hall. All of these computers display the same CentOS page when attempting to bring up Tuttle-ok.gov. Now if your software is not causing this problem, how does it happen??? No one outside this building has complained about this problem. This is a block of public access to a city's website. Remove your software within the next 12 hours or an official complaint to the FBI is being filed! Third correspondence to this location. ----------------------------------------------- From: Jerry.Taylor To: Johnny Hughes Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:50:33 -0600 Johnny, This a message to notify you that your webpage has blocked an "Official" website that is used to provide public information regarding City Council meetings including notifying the public of the agendas. Failure to provide the agendas on the City's website is a violation of the open records act of Oklahoma. You claim no responsibility but the city did not subscribe to your software and the city did not authorize you to display it when the city's website is selected. You have officially been notified and given an opportunity to correct the situation without legal intervention. The rest is up to you! Jerry ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry.Taylor Cc: mayor of Tuttle Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:34:18 -0600 Mr. Taylor Stop with the FBI already. If CentOS is on the computers, it was installed there by someone who controls the computer. Who installed the operating system on those computers? Who is the administrator of the computers and have you contacted them? If the operating system that is installed on the computers is CentOS, then it was installed by the administrator if the computer. Are you not understanding what I am writing? Please talk to the person who controls the computers ... or give me a name and an e-mail address and I will talk to them. If someone who is computer literate doesn't take care of this situation I will be forced to send these ridiculous e-mails to your local media. I'm sure they will be able to understand what I am trying to tell you. Please, I have asked you at least 3 times to have your administrator, the person who installed the operating system on those computers, to look at them. Thank you, Johnny Hughes ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry.Taylor Cc: mayor of Tuttle Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:38:46 -0600 We don't display anything ... you have yet to even tell me the name of the webserver in question. I am very tired of your threats when you have yet to even show me what your problem is. You obviously do not understand what I am trying to tell you, is there no one on the city council or in your building who understands what an operating system is. If you would like me to help the administrator of the computers in question, I would be happy to. However, we did not install anything, anywhere. ----------------------------------------------- From: Jerry.Taylor To: Johnny Hughes Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:58:24 -0600 Johnny, I have contacted the City's network administrator wnd he has done nothing to install your CentOS software. I have contacted our Internet provider and they know nothing about your software. I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation. Now, can you tell me how to remove "your software" that you acknowledge you provided free of charge? I consider this "hacking". I have no fear of the media, in fact I welcome this publicity. Just correct this problem and leave this system alone in the future. Jerry ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry.Taylor Cc: mayor of Tuttle Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:08:05 -0600 Mr. Taylor, Even though I have repeatedly asked you to contact your service provider or your network administrator, you have persisted to instead harass me. I have repeatedly offered to help you fix your issue, if you would just provide me with information. You have chosen neither provide me with information or contact your hosting provider ... so I decided to see if I could find some of the information myself. I found the website that you are having problems with by looking at http://www.Tuttle-OK.gov/ and I saw an e-mail address of cityoftuttle.org ... so I went to www.cityoftuttle.org and I see the problem. As I tried to explain to you before, that page is displayed when the webserver in question is not properly configured. The IP address that is returned from a name lookup of www.cityoftuttle.org is 65.77.67.7. That is the IP address of your server. Doing more research, I have found that the site in question is hosted by Vidia Communications. If you look at this page http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.vidiacom.com you will plainly see that Vidia Communications uses CentOS as the operating system for their server. So, though I have told you again and again that you need to contact your service provider and tell them of your problem, you obviously would rather threaten me and my group. Now, for the last time ... contact your web server provider, Vidia Communications, and tell them that they have a misconfiguration on the server that they are hosting your website on. While you are at it, why don't you ask Vidia Communications why it is that they choose CentOS to host your webserver on. So you see Mr. Taylor, you ARE using my free operating system to run your website, you are doing so by choice, it is a configuration error by the person who choose to install the software and if you would have done what I asked you to your website would have been up by now. Let me conclude by saying that it is very hard for me NOT to send this e-mail and all the other correspondence between you and I to http://www.tuttletimes.com/ I will not do so, even though I really do want to. Thank you, Johnny Hughes ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry.Taylor Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:20:11 -0600 Mr. Taylor, If there are other servers besides the one I already found ... If you provide me the names, I'll be happy to tell you who the provider is for them as well. Johnny Hughes ----------------------------------------------- From: Jerry.Taylor To: Johnny Hughes Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:36:42 -0600 Johnny, The problem has been resolved by VIDIA who used to host the City website. They still provide cable service but do not host the website. The explanation was that they had a crash and during the rebuild they reinstalled the software that affected our website. I am sorry that we had to go through the process and accusations to get the problem resolved. It could have been resolved a lot quicker if the initial correspondence with you provided the helpful information that was transmitted in the last messages. My initial contact with VIDIA disallowed any knowledge of creating the problem. Jerry ----------------------------------------------- From: Johnny Hughes To: Jerry.Taylor Subject: Re: www.centos.org - Contact Us Form Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:49:15 -0600 Jerry, I asked time and again for the name of the web server administrator or the website so that I could help you. I did the extra research on my own to figure it out for myself when I was not provided any of that information by you. I also tried very hard to convince you that the problem had to be caused on the web server and that CentOS could not possibly be installed by accident or in anyway take over a website. You will notice that in my first and second e-mails, I spell out exactly how to fix the problem and who should be contacted. Any administrator should have been able to use nslookup, dig and whois to figure out the problem, which had absolutely nothing to do with CentOS. I am glad that you got the problem fixed. Thanks, Johnny Hughes ----------------------------------------------- OK ... so there it is ... in it's entirety. I can't even make this kind of stuff up. -------------------- I'd rather have a full Bottle in front of me than a full Frontal Lobotomy!!
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May 22 2012, 01:44 PM
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This could have been in a german authority hahaha
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May 22 2012, 02:32 PM
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This is classic, I love this
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