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post Oct 26 2012, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (Dieterle @ Oct 26 2012, 11:43 AM) *
Hello Gabriel just came back home !

The last days a have been busy with a job i had to do and did not know about before i ask you to help my with collab,
but this weekend end i start my first record !

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Hello Gabriel here my first take !

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Hi mate, ok, we have to work on this! Your solo doesn't fit very well with the chords that sound in the backing track and the way to fix this is to start learning triads and arpeggios and follow with them the chords that sound. The secret at this point is to play less notes but the ones that are more effective.

My question is: Do you know major and minor triads?


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Hello gabriel!
I was looking on net for triads and actually i didn't
think before about it.
So might be important to make a triads course here to get more ground knowledge for my playing around stuff.

Is this OK for you ?

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QUOTE (Dieterle @ Nov 1 2012, 04:04 AM) *
Hello gabriel!
I was looking on net for triads and actually i didn't
think before about it.
So might be important to make a triads course here to get more ground knowledge for my playing around stuff.

Is this OK for you ?

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yes! What course are you talking about?


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Hello Gabriel ,

i never been thinking about chords a lot actually i play around and try to find melodies ,
i always play alone and i would like to find a way to play a melody and beside chords to get some background feeling or main
and underline atmosphere.

Chords - atmosphere Solo/melodie what i wanna say

so i should learn putting a scale / pentatonic with chords together and all over the fretboard.


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Ok! So, let's start working on this... the first two things that you must study are knowing how to play a minor chord in 5 positions and a then the arpeggios around this positions. Let's start with this two GP files in A minor.

Attached File  01._A_minor_chord.gp5 ( 2.14K ) Number of downloads: 50

Attached File  02._A_minor_arpeggios.gp5 ( 1.94K ) Number of downloads: 57


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Thank you Gabriel for this homework !

I just recognize that i mostly don't play real chords and it is not easy to get my fingers on the right place,

maybe the are a bit to short !? rolleyes.gif

will take some time to play them fluidly i exercise them a few minutes a day with a break in between ,
because my hand hurts when do it longer.


Is there any special exercise for finger gymnastic on freeboard to get them more in shape - kind of warm up?


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QUOTE (Dieterle @ Nov 5 2012, 06:20 PM) *
Thank you Gabriel for this homework !

I just recognize that i mostly don't play real chords and it is not easy to get my fingers on the right place,

maybe the are a bit to short !? rolleyes.gif

will take some time to play them fluidly i exercise them a few minutes a day with a break in between ,
because my hand hurts when do it longer.


Is there any special exercise for finger gymnastic on freeboard to get them more in shape - kind of warm up?


Dieter


Well, I know that there are exercises for that but I have never used them. The thing that always worked for me is keeping my left hand fingers playing the shape that is giving problem, just keeping the position for some time every day.


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Hello Gabriel !

--- just keeping the position for some time every day.---

Your advice works well !

It is getting easier to access the chords and they and the agreppios i got in mind now tongue.gif

I can exercise them now more often without pain rolleyes.gif .

Whats next you wanna me to do ?

Have a Nice Weekend !

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Great! Now let's combine minor chords and arpeggios in the 5 different positions. Use the following progression to practice it.

Am - Dm - Em - Dm

First, play the chords, changing from one chord to the nex that is closer to it, and then moving to a new position. After this, do the same but with arpeggios, playing them in order and finally trying to create melodies.

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Thank you Gabriel !

I first have to find out the minor chords and the scales in 5 positions !

But i think i get it

The minor chord formula:

1 – b3 – 5

So the root is 1 for example Dm D - F - A


Em E - G - B

and then 5 positions on fretboard

minor scales are OK and when i am unsure i can check the scale generator.

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Sorry Gabriel !

Arpeggios not scales wink.gif

but its OK too !

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yes mate, that's correct. You already have all the minor chord and arpeggios shapes in the two guitar pro files that I posted here. Could you check it? Those are transportable positions...


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Hello Gabriel thank you for answering fast !

On GP file is only Am chord and arpeggios in 5 positions

but not Dm and Em .

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QUOTE (Dieterle @ Nov 12 2012, 11:08 AM) *
Hello Gabriel thank you for answering fast !

On GP file is only Am chord and arpeggios in 5 positions

but not Dm and Em .

Dieter


ok, there is a trick about this! You can transpose those shapes... the lower note is the root of the chord, so you can move them.

Let me show you an example.

This is Am (the one that appears in the GP file)


If you move it one fret you have A#m:


If you start it from the 7th fret, you have E minor:



Let's start with another shape:

Am:


Dm:


The same happens with every shape, does this make sense?


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Yes Gabriel , thank YOU !!!!
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QUOTE (Dieterle @ Nov 12 2012, 11:24 AM) *
Yes Gabriel , thank YOU !!!!
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Wow Gabriel this is a real interesting homework !

I recognized the chords and scales on fretboard and it will take a couple of days to get a bit comfortable to them

than i try a record that you can see what i am doing .

Thank you !

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QUOTE (Dieterle @ Nov 12 2012, 05:43 PM) *
Wow Gabriel this is a real interesting homework !

I recognized the chords and scales on fretboard and it will take a couple of days to get a bit comfortable to them

than i try a record that you can see what i am doing .

Thank you !

Dieter


yes, this takes some time to assimilate but you are now ready to enter into a new fiberboard dimension... biggrin.gif


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Hello Gabriel !

Its time for me -- i think so - to go again into some Guitar Lesson and after looking and listening to a few GMC Lessons here ,

Running Wild Lesson from you sounds really GOOD to me !

It is a very hard lesson for me - i know that (Level 4) - but there are some real interesting elements in it and i would like to use

this technics and that kind of sound feeling for my own next record on my Seeds falling down on Gaja project

( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPezMmIUW3s...9A930936F8A0675 )

So the 3th part should become more hard and aggressive kind of wake up atmosphere

the chords on your lesson are not difficult and there are many ways to find some scale ideas.

Too on part two there you use some cool palm mute - like it but this is real difficult ....

I know my problem rhythm timing working slower ..........


I would work on the first part and beside that on the second part of your lesson right now and will record end of the week my first video .

Would it be OK for ya to check them and tell me what ya think !?

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