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Ben Higgins
post Jun 15 2012, 08:47 AM
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Do you guys get any weird reactions to insect bites and things ? I got bitten on the arm 2 days ago (I think) and my forearm swelled up like a mini golf ball. Then I looked yesterday and there was a red line travelling up my arm, which suggests infection or blood poisoning. However, I think I've managed to stop it but it was freaky all the same !

Anyone else had that ?


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post Jun 15 2012, 08:55 AM
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Once I has been bitten by some of these in my back....

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I was a child, I was washing my father's car and I didn't see the honeycomb (is it well said?) that was in a bush in the garden. It really hurt but nothing serious happened.


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post Jun 15 2012, 08:59 AM
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Go see a doctor Ben. NOW !!!!!

Jeff Hanneman was bit by a spider, and I suspect something like this hapenned, and It developed into Necrotizing fasciitis. Basically, your skin will start eating itself up and it may get bad, very bad. Rush to a doctor NOW !!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrotizing_fasciitis

(Gore warning, some bad images you won't want to see maybe, don't know if you're strong enough)


Ben, I wish this doesn't happen to anyone. I'll be praying for your well being. It may even require skin grafting. In other words, Its BAD, VERY VERY BAD.

Take care of yourself man. smile.gif

And, I don't want to scare you. Its just my observation. Hanneman was bitten by a spider in 2011 and it lead to this. And he's having skin grafts, getting immuno supressors. He is even learning how to walk again. Hope you're OK




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post Jun 15 2012, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (Yash @ Jun 15 2012, 08:59 AM) *
Go see a doctor Ben. NOW !!!!!

Jeff Hanneman was bit by a spider, and I suspect something like this hapenned, and It developed into Necrotizing fasciitis. Basically, your skin will start eating itself up and it may get bad, very bad. Rush to a doctor NOW !!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrotizing_fasciitis

(Gore warning, some bad images you won't want to see maybe, don't know if you're strong enough)


Ben, I wish this doesn't happen to anyone. I'll be praying for your well being. It may even require skin grafting. In other words, Its BAD, VERY VERY BAD.

Take care of yourself man. smile.gif

And, I don't want to scare you. Its just my observation. Hanneman was bitten by a spider in 2011 and it lead to this. And he's having skin grafts, getting immuno supressors. He is even learning how to walk again. Hope you're OK


Hi Yash, don't worry, it's not a spider bite, it's a bite from something called a Horse Fly. They can be painful (although it wasn't) and will swell up. They are also quite common. It's recommended you take ant-histamine tablets, anti-inflammatories and even applying vinegar to the bite will help clear it up. I've done all those things and it's improved amazingly overnight so it's ok. Thanks for your concern though. The Jeff Hanneman thing did run through my mind but thankfully it's not that ! smile.gif


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post Jun 15 2012, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jun 15 2012, 01:49 PM) *
Hi Yash, don't worry, it's not a spider bite, it's a bite from something called a Horse Fly. They can be painful (although it wasn't) and will swell up. They are also quite common. It's recommended you take ant-histamine tablets, anti-inflammatories and even applying vinegar to the bite will help clear it up. I've done all those things and it's improved amazingly overnight so it's ok. Thanks for your concern though. The Jeff Hanneman thing did run through my mind but thankfully it's not that ! smile.gif


Anyone would get scared after listening to what happened to Jeff. And maybe British insects are different than Indian insects.
We don't take anything after getting bitten. Just apply an ointment smile.gif


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post Jun 15 2012, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Yash @ Jun 15 2012, 09:26 AM) *
Anyone would get scared after listening to what happened to Jeff. And maybe British insects are different than Indian insects.
We don't take anything after getting bitten. Just apply an ointment smile.gif


Yeah I think spider bites seem to be more common and serious outside of the UK.


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post Jun 15 2012, 09:46 AM
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Entomology is somewhat of a specialty of mine. Yes Yash, insects in hotter cliamtes are more brutal. Which is why Indian insects are so much more dangerous than British ones. You Indians even have to deal with Tsetse Flies, which are one of the few insects I would kill with fire.

We actually had a Brown Recluse in my house that laid eggs. I caught her and put her in a terrarium with her eggs and let them hatch. Soon after, I put them outside and they all left. It was a great couple of weeks documenting that.

We actually have the two best entomology schools in the world here in California. One of them is UC Davis, which is closer to SirJamsalot, and the other is UC Riverside, which is about fifteen minutes from my house. It was a big struggle for me in secondary school to decide whether or not I wanted to study music or Entomology. I decided to make insects my hobby, but I love insects SO MUCH. I love nature more than anything really.

I am... odd.

Here is an awesome article I read last month that does display some more 'terrifying' insects from the UK in a non-threatening way. Wood ants, or Formica, as they are formally known, even have slaves. They are practically a race of super ants that could dominate all the other species if they had the initiative.

http://www.redfunnel.co.uk/my-isle-of-wigh...gs/ant-science/


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post Jun 15 2012, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ Jun 15 2012, 09:46 AM) *
Here is an awesome article I read last month that does display some more 'terrifying' insects from the UK in a non-threatening way. Wood ants, or Formica, as they are formally known, even have slaves. They are practically a race of super ants that could dominate all the other species if they had the initiative.

http://www.redfunnel.co.uk/my-isle-of-wigh...gs/ant-science/


Ants have slaves ???

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post Jun 15 2012, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ Jun 15 2012, 02:16 PM) *
You Indians even have to deal with Tsetse Flies, which are one of the few insects I would kill with fire.


I don't think we have to deal with Tsetse flies. As far as my knowledge goes, they are the secondary host for W.bancrofti, which causes Elephantasis, which has become quite rare now here.


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post Jun 15 2012, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE (Yash @ Jun 15 2012, 08:59 AM) *
I don't think we have to deal with Tsetse flies. As far as my knowledge goes, they are the secondary host for W.bancrofti, which causes Elephantasis, which has become quite rare now here.



http://billericky.hubpages.com/hub/Poisono...piders-in-India

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It isn't a very common occurrence in India because they have only been there for about five years, but the issue does exist. It is just much more small scale compared to Africa. They have it, and just about everything else bad.

QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jun 15 2012, 08:51 AM) *
Ants have slaves ???

Man..... dry.gif


Yeah. And wood ant Colonies are HUGE. They average about 40k ants and each of them usually live about 45-60 days on average.

The only insect I am actually "scared"(I think I am more intrigued than anything.) of is the Japanese Hornet.



Although I heard that a recent evolutionary trait in the Japanese Bee is taking place. I cannot confirm it 100%, but my sources told me that Japanese Bees now do the coolest thing EVER! They supposedly documented a case of Japanese Bees swarming around a singular Japanese Hornet(s) by ambushing them en masse. The temperatures inside the swarm became so hot that the Hornet(s) actually died.

Nothing in the insect world is cooler than the Centipede, though. They can take on adult snakes, spiders... just about everything.

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Yep, shouldn't be reading this thread, not a huge fan of bugs. So as I'm reading this see a video of bees, the dog brushed against me and I almost hit the ceiling! laugh.gif


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QUOTE (SpaseMoonkey @ Jun 15 2012, 10:07 AM) *
Yep, shouldn't be reading this thread, not a huge fan of bugs. So as I'm reading this see a video of bees, the dog brushed against me and I almost hit the ceiling! laugh.gif


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post Jun 15 2012, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jun 15 2012, 02:21 PM) *
Ants have slaves ???

Man..... dry.gif


You didn't know that laugh.gif Oh Ben


QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ Jun 15 2012, 03:26 PM) *
http://billericky.hubpages.com/hub/Poisono...piders-in-India

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It isn't a very common occurrence in India because they have only been there for about five years, but the issue does exist. It is just much more small scale compared to Africa. They have it, and just about everything else bad.


Yuk, I hate bugs, especially house flies, really. And those animals are found only in rural areas. I live in the capital, so I only fear mosquitoes and house flies mostly laugh.gif

And Nhilist, are you a post graduate or at least a graduate in Entomology ????


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post Jun 15 2012, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (Yash @ Jun 15 2012, 11:50 AM) *
You didn't know that laugh.gif Oh Ben


One of those pieces of info I learned but forgotten wink.gif


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Anything that can give you rabies will probably kill you if you don't treat it fast.

I watched a documentary on Animal Planet about a girl who got bitten by a bat in the church. Rabies have 100% mortality rate if not treated right away. She was the first one who survived late stages of rabies because the doctors put her in a coma so her brain doesn't get infected and to give her time to build an immune system. However, she almost died in the hospital and after she recovered she had to re-learn writing, walking and other basic things...

http://www.mymultiplesclerosis.co.uk/misc/jeannagiese.html


Dangerous stuff!

I myself was lip-stung by a bee who got in my pepsi can. I was also bitten by a tick and luckily I noticed it fast enough so I can treat myself with an antidote! And bitten by numerous dogs biggrin.gif

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After reading several posts by our friend Yash, I no longer wonder why most of the doctors here in the US are from India.( In case anyone is wondering, that is meant as a compliment smile.gif )
I think Yash and Nihilist1 need to play a game of hangman! biggrin.gif

Ben, I hope your arm is better!


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QUOTE (Yash @ Jun 15 2012, 10:50 AM) *
And Nhilist, are you a post graduate or at least a graduate in Entomology ????


Nope. I do manage to have a lot of knowledge stored in my brain about insects, though. I have quite a few books as well. It was actually the first thing I was ever interested in without anyone else influencing me. I used to take a little plastic aquarium with me to school and I would collect insects. My first real memory is probably what started this. We had a project in Grade 1 where we captured caterpillars and we nurtured them until the metamorphosed into White-Lined Sphiinx Moths.

http://www.calflora.net/butterflies/whitel...sphinxmoth.html

One of my favourite activities that aren't related to music is going to the Los Angeles natural History Museum. They have an entire floor dedicated to insects. on this floor there is an "Insect Zoo" with over 30,000 different species and they have a total of about 80,000 species of dead insects on display.

Fun Fact -- If you were to take everything that is classifiable by Biology, every fourth item would be a beetle. Here is an example:

Human, rose, bear, stag beetle, salmon, dog, cat, hercules beetle

There really are that many different types of beetles.

Definitely, Dinaga. I would most certainly do everything in my power to never contract rabies.

Check this awesome video out. I can't believe I forgot all about it!



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Hey Ben did you get bitten before doing MAB lesson ? If so catch one of those bastards and send here tongue.gif

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post Jun 15 2012, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (Dinaga @ Jun 15 2012, 12:09 PM) *
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