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SirJamsalot
Jul 9 2012, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 9 2012, 09:43 AM) *
That;s the whole point! You want amps pointing in the crowd not sideways! I just think it's weird!


I think my point was that the amps are mic'd and what the audience is hearing for the most part is coming thru the P/A, not the amps themselves. Amps are pretty directional - sit them off to one side about 30 degrees and you're not gonna hear the amp at all if you're in the audience anyways - when competing with the other instruments on stage. What the musician hears on stage is radically different from what the audience hears in the crowd.

My first stage gig experience was an outdoor concert at an Art and Wine festival - That was a completely weird experience having never done one before. remember barely being able to hear my guitar. After the show, I thought - man..., what a bummer. I went out to meet and greet friends, and all of them told me how absolutely loud everything was - they felt like they should have brought earplugs. That's why the mix-engineers need to be out in the audience - and why the cabs are mic'd - so they can properly mix to the audience's perspective, not the musician's - if I had my way, all they'd hear is a uni-directional blast of my guitar biggrin.gif The only reason for turning up the cabinet past 3 or 4 would be to heat up the tubes for better tone - not for volume.

I'm curious what Gabriel's experience on this matter is though. He's done a ton of concerts, all of which with a really large crowd. Gabriel, what's your experience with amp volume on stage!?!

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derper
Jul 10 2012, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Jul 9 2012, 10:42 AM) *
I'm curious what Gabriel's experience on this matter is though. He's done a ton of concerts, all of which with a really large crowd. Gabriel, what's your experience with amp volume on stage!?!

Cheers!



Funny, I'm guessing I'm not the "Gabriel" you were asking, but I am A "Gabriel" (Rodriguez) and I have also played what I consider to be "a ton" of concerts too! Although probably not quite as large and epic as Leopardi!!

Mainly, what you had mentioned about not being able to hear your rig....I went through that early on when I started playing out, and it taught me the SEVERE importance of getting the right monitor mix during soundcheck. Also, you can still make adjustments on the fly by asking the soundguy (or gal!) between songs, or simply with hand signals. Just train yourself to know that you are never STUCK with those problems, if you have decent soundperson.

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JesseJ
Jul 10 2012, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 8 2012, 10:40 PM) *
Portland sure beats the heck out of Idaho!! wink.gif


Haha yah I know !!! Well I am trying to talk them into going next year !

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Jan 7 2013, 10:53 AM
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UPDATE!! I have since this posting, sold my Seymour Duncan Pickup Boost, and purchased a Peterson Strobostomp tuner (with DI out so I can run my Parker's piezo stereo out to my PA simultaneous with my main channel), MXR Dyna Comp, and Line 6 Echo Park Delay... so thanks to all for the advice! Saved me a ton of research on the recommended "how to" for these effects that I didn't have before. Sounds good, but I may still experiment... tongue.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
Jan 9 2013, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jan 7 2013, 09:53 AM) *
UPDATE!! I have since this posting, sold my Seymour Duncan Pickup Boost, and purchased a Peterson Strobostomp tuner (with DI out so I can run my Parker's piezo stereo out to my PA simultaneous with my main channel), MXR Dyna Comp, and Line 6 Echo Park Delay... so thanks to all for the advice! Saved me a ton of research on the recommended "how to" for these effects that I didn't have before. Sounds good, but I may still experiment... tongue.gif


Oh man, I hate the Echo Park, because of the way it's activated, you don't wanna know how much I cursed it in live situations laugh.gif

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