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Todd Simpson
post Jul 7 2012, 12:49 AM
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Just bought one via ebay and wanted to know if anyone has any info? I had read that these had CRAZY thin necks, of which I"m a big fan so I thought I'd try one. I was shocked when I played a PARKER recently, as it's neck was about HALF the thickness of my cherished RG560 but those guitars cost more than my car smile.gif

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post Jul 7 2012, 10:19 AM
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Looks nice T-Man.. never played a Hamer though ! smile.gif


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post Jul 7 2012, 01:07 PM
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I've worked on a couple of those, as well as some other Hamers. I have a friend/customer who collects nothing but Hamers!
Those Claifornians are superb instruments, great build quality (as you'd expect!!). In regards to the neck dimensions, if I can remember correctly, I'd say that it's pretty close width-wise to your Ibanez but will be a noticeably bit thinner depth-wise!
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post Jul 7 2012, 03:52 PM
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Nice buy. I have a Hamer Centaura which I'd had since my late teens. When I bought an ESP Horizon a few years back I was amazed by how much harder it was to play due to the thicker neck. The Centaura is a speed machine, I'd imagine the Californian is similar.


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post Jul 7 2012, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 7 2012, 02:49 AM) *
Just bought one via ebay and wanted to know if anyone has any info? I had read that these had CRAZY thin necks, of which I"m a big fan so I thought I'd try one. I was shocked when I played a PARKER recently, as it's neck was about HALF the thickness of my cherished RG560 but those guitars cost more than my car smile.gif

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Is that the guitar you bought ? If so that's one hell of guitar !! ohmy.gif

Looks really great. How much you paid for it ?
Oh and is it made in U.S.A ?

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post Jul 7 2012, 04:49 PM
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I know that guitar, they sold them really cheap 'bout 15 years ago here in Serbia,
It is made in Korea in the beginning of 90's
It has like 27 frets and some quality floyd rose?
Overall very quality guitar for its' price!!!

U know , i thought of buying parts from ebay (neck & body from same guitar) 'cos they're cheaper that way, then assembling them by myself .
What do u think of that idea, sir Todd?
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post Jul 7 2012, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Jul 7 2012, 04:49 PM) *
I know that guitar, they sold them really cheap 'bout 15 years ago here in Serbia,
It is made in Korea in the beginning of 90's
It has like 27 frets and some quality floyd rose?
Overall very quality guitar for its' price!!!

Although they were Korean made not USA made they were still very good value for money, though the hardware was very well manufactured as was the pattern Floyd Bridge, it wasn't of the best quality.
The USA models had either Gotoh or Sperzel tuners and original Floyd.

QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Jul 7 2012, 04:49 PM) *
U know , i thought of buying parts from ebay (neck & body from same guitar) 'cos they're cheaper that way, then assembling them by myself .
What do u think of that idea, sir Todd?

It would be a great way of doing it, you could install whatever hardware you want. Original Floyd or Schaller, Gotoh/Sperzels and whatever pickups you want too!!
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post Jul 7 2012, 06:40 PM
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That guitar looks incredible! I don't have any experience with Hamer instruments. I love how the fret board is cut on an angle and has the extra frets. I'm sure it will be a shred machine. I'm curious to know your thoughts on it when it arrives!

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post Jul 7 2012, 07:24 PM
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I agree all the way in terms of being shocked at the neck on ESP's in general. ESP makes awesome guitars and killer players swear by them. Having said that, compared with my Ibanez guitars, even my 7 string Ibanez, every ESP I've played was simply a bit more work in general. some folks like having to dig in more. I"m just not one of them. Again, not bashing ESP, as I mentioned they make amazing instruments. The necks, for me, seem a tad thicker and make the hand work a bit more than Ibby's. But to each his own smile.gif

This is actually part of why I"m selling my ESP 8 string and buying a Hamer and another Ibanez smile.gif I've got a XIPHOS on the way as well!

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QUOTE (OzRob @ Jul 7 2012, 10:52 AM) *
Nice buy. I have a Hamer Centaura which I'd had since my late teens. When I bought an ESP Horizon a few years back I was amazed by how much harder it was to play due to the thicker neck. The Centaura is a speed machine, I'd imagine the Californian is similar.



Sure why not smile.gif Go for it!

QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Jul 7 2012, 11:49 AM) *
I know that guitar, they sold them really cheap 'bout 15 years ago here in Serbia,
It is made in Korea in the beginning of 90's
It has like 27 frets and some quality floyd rose?
Overall very quality guitar for its' price!!!

U know , i thought of buying parts from ebay (neck & body from same guitar) 'cos they're cheaper that way, then assembling them by myself .
What do u think of that idea, sir Todd?



SPIIIFFFFF!! Can't wait smile.gif I'd heard stories about these crazy guitars a long time ago but I don't see them often in stores. 27 Frets, crazy thin neck. Had to have it smile.gif


QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jul 7 2012, 08:07 AM) *
I've worked on a couple of those, as well as some other Hamers. I have a friend/customer who collects nothing but Hamers!
Those Claifornians are superb instruments, great build quality (as you'd expect!!). In regards to the neck dimensions, if I can remember correctly, I'd say that it's pretty close width-wise to your Ibanez but will be a noticeably bit thinner depth-wise!
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post Jul 7 2012, 08:04 PM
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You'd be surprised how many shredders used Hamer guitars in the eighties and nineties..it was a big popular brand then.
I lost track of them and didn't even knew they were still there...i still remember the times when i ate guitarmagazines
Hamer was all over the place in those mags smile.gif ..
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post Jul 8 2012, 11:13 AM
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Yeah, i especially like those Boomerang fretboard inlays which is trademark of hammer guitars!

I'm more fan of Jackson/ Charvel guitars made in middle of 80's . I think that nothing beats those guitars in terms of : Sound, Craftmanship,, reliability and Ofcourse Price.
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post Jul 9 2012, 05:40 AM
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Cool one mate! I have never tried it but I tried other models by Hamer, and I can say that their guitars has a very good quality and are relatively cheap. The one that I tried had a fat neck (like my les paul studio, not as fat as the les paul standard) but the tone was so deep.


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post Jul 9 2012, 06:40 AM
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QUOTE (Bossie @ Jul 7 2012, 03:04 PM) *
You'd be surprised how many shredders used Hamer guitars in the eighties and nineties..it was a big popular brand then.
I lost track of them and didn't even knew they were still there...i still remember the times when i ate guitarmagazines
Hamer was all over the place in those mags smile.gif ..


I googled it and it seems they were all over the place way back when. I've never seen one in a music shop so I don't know where they all went. I had to use ebay and this one is being shipped from the west coast. According to wikipedia

FENDER GUITAR bought and OWNS the Company now!


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And they only make hand made, high end customs these days. Who knew?

Hamer Guitars was acquired by Kaman Music Corporation in 1988. Kaman has since been purchased by Fender Musical Instruments Corp (2008). Hamer offers a wide array of electric guitars and electric basses, and, since its foundation placed an emphasis on producing high-quality instruments with vintage aesthetics as well as creative innovations.[citation needed]

Hamer marketed a lower priced line of Asian-built instruments called the "XT Series". and "Slammer by Hamer" which were discontinued in 2009.

As of 2011 Hamer builds guitars on a made to order basis.
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Jul 8 2012, 06:13 AM) *
Yeah, i especially like those Boomerang fretboard inlays which is trademark of hammer guitars!

I'm more fan of Jackson/ Charvel guitars made in middle of 80's . I think that nothing beats those guitars in terms of : Sound, Craftmanship,, reliability and Ofcourse Price.


Gotta say this one just looked amazing which is why I wanted it. I almost thought it was an ibanez maple top at first then the headstock looked like an old Kramer but said HAMER. smile.gif


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