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Alex Feather
post Jul 14 2012, 06:37 PM
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Hello! I am looking forward to start working with you!!!!
I have a few questions for you! It will give me a better idea about your other goals and styles you like!
-What are your goals?
-What is your weakness?
-What is your strongest point?
-Your favorite guitar players?


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post Jul 16 2012, 10:44 PM
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Goals:

-Better warmup and practice routive
-Learn modes, and be able to view scale patterns as the "intervals"
-Learn to read/read rhythms
-Learn all chord formulas/shapes
-Better technique (vibrato, bends...the "pro" touch!)
-Sweeping/legato
-Learn some sweet jazz riffs/phrasing/"tricks"/arpeggios

Weaknesses:

-Blazing riffs, and shreddy solos
-Vibrato
-Theory
-Sweeping
-Legato

Strengths:

-good timing/rhythm
-Been playing for a long time, so I'm pretty comfortable all-around, and learn quickly
-alt picking
-funky stuff
-"pentatonic" boxes

Favorite Players:

-Eric Krasno (Soulive)
-Melvin Sparks
-Grant Green
-George Benson
-Vince Gill/Albert Lee


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Alex Feather
post Jul 18 2012, 04:23 AM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 16 2012, 09:44 PM) *
Goals:

-Better warmup and practice routive
-Learn modes, and be able to view scale patterns as the "intervals"
-Learn to read/read rhythms
-Learn all chord formulas/shapes
-Better technique (vibrato, bends...the "pro" touch!)
-Sweeping/legato
-Learn some sweet jazz riffs/phrasing/"tricks"/arpeggios

Weaknesses:

-Blazing riffs, and shreddy solos
-Vibrato
-Theory
-Sweeping
-Legato

Strengths:

-good timing/rhythm
-Been playing for a long time, so I'm pretty comfortable all-around, and learn quickly
-alt picking
-funky stuff
-"pentatonic" boxes

Favorite Players:

-Eric Krasno (Soulive)
-Melvin Sparks
-Grant Green
-George Benson
-Vince Gill/Albert Lee

I am really happy to have you on board smile.gif
Let's start!
Here is the track that we will be using
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/ii-v-i-jam
It's a standard II-V-I progression in E minor
So the chords are Emi7 - A7 -Dmaj7
To start I would like you to take three pentatonics in this shapes:

B minor


E minor


F# minor



And combine them together creating licks!
I will add my take in a few hours to give you more ideas! smile.gif
Let me know if you need any help or have questions!


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post Jul 18 2012, 07:03 PM
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Awesome, I'll get to it this afternoon (at work...a mattress store)....but I realized I don't have my camera. Perhaps I'll plug into my interface after work to get a take.


My first thought, when I read the assignment, was "well, I'm very familiar with pentatonic shapes already" but then I looked at the exact boxes you have instructed me to use, and I realized that although I may be "familiar" with it when playing....I couldn't just "draw/write it down" off the top of my head. So, this exercise may benefit me more than I originally thought. I'll dig in and see, and trust you mentor!! wink.gif


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post Jul 18 2012, 08:48 PM
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Quick question....for this exercise, is it ok to use some "outside" notes for flavor? I have trained myself long ago NOT to play strictly pentatonic notes. But if you would rather that I stick strictly to only the pentatonic notes/intervals, for whatever reason, I will do just that and try to come up with something melodic enough to overcome the "bland" flavor of pentatonic-only! tongue.gif


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post Jul 19 2012, 10:06 PM
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Actually, for my take on this (today) I will post both a purely pentatonic run, and also a run where I allow myself to play more as "myself" and use the outside notes I naturally would use. They should be up in a few hours.

Thanks Alex!!


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post Jul 20 2012, 01:09 AM
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Ok, now that I went over this with my guitar in hand, I'm just slightly confused...

Do you want me to play each of those 3 boxes over each chord specifically? For example, on the II (Em7) do you want me to play the "B minor" shape listed, and then switch to the "E minor" shape over the V?

QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 17 2012, 08:23 PM) *
I am really happy to have you on board smile.gif
Let's start!
Here is the track that we will be using
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/ii-v-i-jam
It's a standard II-V-I progression in E minor
So the chords are Emi7 - A7 -Dmaj7
To start I would like you to take three pentatonics in this shapes:

B minor


E minor


F# minor



And combine them together creating licks!
I will add my take in a few hours to give you more ideas! smile.gif
Let me know if you need any help or have questions!



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post Jul 20 2012, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 20 2012, 12:09 AM) *
Ok, now that I went over this with my guitar in hand, I'm just slightly confused...

Do you want me to play each of those 3 boxes over each chord specifically? For example, on the II (Em7) do you want me to play the "B minor" shape listed, and then switch to the "E minor" shape over the V?

I am glad you like this exercise! Everything I will be giving you will seem easy at first until will get into it smile.gif
You can use a different shape if you would like! What I wanted to hear is changes and your level of playing! I am looking forward to hear your take smile.gif
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


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post Jul 21 2012, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 20 2012, 10:32 AM) *
I am glad you like this exercise! Everything I will be giving you will seem easy at first until will get into it smile.gif
You can use a different shape if you would like! What I wanted to hear is changes and your level of playing! I am looking forward to hear your take smile.gif
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


Ok, great! I understand what you're looking for, more now. I'll actually do a video take of some "improv" just to give you a better idea of how I fare with that, then also track a more precise and planned "solo" to show that as well.


I like it!! A "get to know you" session!


I had just misunderstood the "point" of this, and I thought perhaps you were challenging me to limit my playing and vocabulary to just those spots. For example, I once had a jazz keyboardist ask me to play the SAME arpeggio over changes, using only changes in rhythm and picking to mix it up. Fun challenge!!


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post Jul 21 2012, 06:29 AM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 21 2012, 12:52 AM) *
Ok, great! I understand what you're looking for, more now. I'll actually do a video take of some "improv" just to give you a better idea of how I fare with that, then also track a more precise and planned "solo" to show that as well.


I like it!! A "get to know you" session!


I had just misunderstood the "point" of this, and I thought perhaps you were challenging me to limit my playing and vocabulary to just those spots. For example, I once had a jazz keyboardist ask me to play the SAME arpeggio over changes, using only changes in rhythm and picking to mix it up. Fun challenge!!


I am looking forward to hear your takes! smile.gif video will workout perfectly!
We will be getting into jazz and fusion as well! And I will show you very interesting this about how the changes work and what kind of things you can use to make it sound cool! smile.gif
Over what changes and what arpeggios did you play? I am curious! smile.gif


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post Jul 23 2012, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 21 2012, 12:52 AM) *
Ok, great! I understand what you're looking for, more now. I'll actually do a video take of some "improv" just to give you a better idea of how I fare with that, then also track a more precise and planned "solo" to show that as well.


I like it!! A "get to know you" session!


I had just misunderstood the "point" of this, and I thought perhaps you were challenging me to limit my playing and vocabulary to just those spots. For example, I once had a jazz keyboardist ask me to play the SAME arpeggio over changes, using only changes in rhythm and picking to mix it up. Fun challenge!!

Hi! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing? Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


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post Jul 23 2012, 06:37 PM
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Hey, sorry I have been (getting married in Aug!!) super busy, and at first I misunderstood the "point" of this exercise.

But I'm just getting to it, at work today....so I'll post a video very soon so you can "get to know" me and my level of playing!! biggrin.gif


QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 23 2012, 10:32 AM) *
Hi! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing? Let me know if you have any questions or need help!



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post Jul 23 2012, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 23 2012, 05:37 PM) *
Hey, sorry I have been (getting married in Aug!!) super busy, and at first I misunderstood the "point" of this exercise.

But I'm just getting to it, at work today....so I'll post a video very soon so you can "get to know" me and my level of playing!! biggrin.gif

Sounds great! smile.gif Let me know if you need help with anything!
P.S. congrats on your marriage! smile.gif I understand how busy you are! So take you time!


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post Jul 24 2012, 03:00 AM
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Well, this isn't a great take but it gives you an idea of "where I'm at". It's a pure improv take, fyi.




QUOTE (derper @ Jul 23 2012, 06:59 PM) *
Well, this isn't a great take but it gives you an idea of "where I'm at". It's a pure improv take, fyi.





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post Jul 25 2012, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 24 2012, 02:00 AM) *
Well, this isn't a great take but it gives you an idea of "where I'm at". It's a pure improv take, fyi.



Very nice! I like you phrases and you have a pretty cool guitar! I always liked Parker:)
Now that I know you a little bit better I have decided to switch the track and get into something more complicated with you! smile.gif
This one has chord changes!
C6, Am9, Dm9, G11, C, Am7, Bm7, D7, G6, G6, F#m7, B9, E, G7#5.
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/jazzy

Let's work on this chord progression If we will analyze the first three chords we will get this:
C6 - C - E - G - A
Ami9 - A - C - E - G - B
Dmi9 - D - F - A - C - E
You can play C major scale over it
or A minor, D minor, E minor pentatonics

I would like you to analyze the rest of the chords we are going diatonic only so no melodic or harmonic minor yet!
But we will be using this track for those as well!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!


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post Jul 26 2012, 12:58 AM
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Ok, here's my "take" and a brief explanation.... I put about 10 mins of prep into that take, to familiarize myself with the chord changes a bit. I could come up with something a bit more "melodic" and planned out, but I've got to prep hard for a gig saturday so I didn't want to spend TOO much time perfecting an amazing solo for this.

Also, I broke down the chord formulas after the take. I don't quite have the chord formulas memorized so it was good practice, but I (at this point) play through changes based on the key and feel, as opposed to knowing what notes to hit on each change. Obviously, I'm here to learn and can/will try and change that a bit if you think I should.




Here are the chord formulas/note breakdown for the rest of the chords. I did have to cheat for some, but I tried to just look up the interval formula and then write the notes myself to help in actually LEARNING.

G11: G, B, D, F, A, C

C: C, E, G

Am7: A, C, E, G

Bm7: B, D, F#, A

D7: D, F#, A, C

G6: G, B, D, E

F#m7: F#, A, C#, E

B9: B, D#, F#, A, C#

E: E, G#, B



I tried to be much faster on this lesson and get it done "same day" so we can keep the ball rolling. Thanks Alex!


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post Jul 28 2012, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 25 2012, 11:58 PM) *
Ok, here's my "take" and a brief explanation.... I put about 10 mins of prep into that take, to familiarize myself with the chord changes a bit. I could come up with something a bit more "melodic" and planned out, but I've got to prep hard for a gig saturday so I didn't want to spend TOO much time perfecting an amazing solo for this.

Also, I broke down the chord formulas after the take. I don't quite have the chord formulas memorized so it was good practice, but I (at this point) play through changes based on the key and feel, as opposed to knowing what notes to hit on each change. Obviously, I'm here to learn and can/will try and change that a bit if you think I should.




Here are the chord formulas/note breakdown for the rest of the chords. I did have to cheat for some, but I tried to just look up the interval formula and then write the notes myself to help in actually LEARNING.

G11: G, B, D, F, A, C

C: C, E, G

Am7: A, C, E, G

Bm7: B, D, F#, A

D7: D, F#, A, C

G6: G, B, D, E

F#m7: F#, A, C#, E

B9: B, D#, F#, A, C#

E: E, G#, B



I tried to be much faster on this lesson and get it done "same day" so we can keep the ball rolling. Thanks Alex!


You did a very good job on the take! I like little country lick:)
For the next take I would like you to play chord tones only mainly 3rd and 7th
This will really accent all the changes! Try to be as melodic as possible, questions and answer technique will work great for it!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help! smile.gif


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post Jul 29 2012, 08:13 PM
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What do you mean by "question and answer" technique? Kind of like a "call and response" during a solo?


Ok, I'm actually glad we're sticking with this progression. I was wanting to break down each chord change, by entering the notes of each chord into the scale generator and playing off of those notes only....pretty much, what you're asking me to do!

I'll put more time into this one. We've gotten a bit past the "getting to know me" phase, so it's time I do what I'm "bad at" and that would be.....doing some REAL HOMEWORK!! So I will treat this lesson like it's homework, and study hard!

**Note: I have to rehearse hard for an EMULATOR show Aug 11th. I will still try to work on this in the meanwhile, and hopefully submit my new take before then. Thanks Alex!! I like the direction we are heading.


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post Jul 30 2012, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 29 2012, 07:13 PM) *
What do you mean by "question and answer" technique? Kind of like a "call and response" during a solo?


Ok, I'm actually glad we're sticking with this progression. I was wanting to break down each chord change, by entering the notes of each chord into the scale generator and playing off of those notes only....pretty much, what you're asking me to do!

I'll put more time into this one. We've gotten a bit past the "getting to know me" phase, so it's time I do what I'm "bad at" and that would be.....doing some REAL HOMEWORK!! So I will treat this lesson like it's homework, and study hard!

**Note: I have to rehearse hard for an EMULATOR show Aug 11th. I will still try to work on this in the meanwhile, and hopefully submit my new take before then. Thanks Alex!! I like the direction we are heading.

We will stick to this chord progression for a while! And I will be giving you assignments based on it!
Take your time and get ready for the show! I am looking forward to hear your take!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!


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post Aug 8 2012, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 29 2012, 07:13 PM) *
What do you mean by "question and answer" technique? Kind of like a "call and response" during a solo?


Ok, I'm actually glad we're sticking with this progression. I was wanting to break down each chord change, by entering the notes of each chord into the scale generator and playing off of those notes only....pretty much, what you're asking me to do!

I'll put more time into this one. We've gotten a bit past the "getting to know me" phase, so it's time I do what I'm "bad at" and that would be.....doing some REAL HOMEWORK!! So I will treat this lesson like it's homework, and study hard!

**Note: I have to rehearse hard for an EMULATOR show Aug 11th. I will still try to work on this in the meanwhile, and hopefully submit my new take before then. Thanks Alex!! I like the direction we are heading.

Got your message! Don't worry about anything! Have fun on your gigs and enjoy your wedding! I am very happy for you! smile.gif


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