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Marcus Siepen
post Sep 5 2012, 10:06 AM
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So we reached "guitar-cable-stompbox-cable-amp" now? ;-) Well, I know a lot of people add a distortion pedal to a high gain amp, sometimes I think it really opens up the sounds, sometimes I don't really like the result. With my Rectifiers I never used any stomp boxes, I am with the guitar-cable-amp method here. Funny enough though, whenever I used a modeller, and no matter if it was guitar rig, a pod, something on my iphone or my beloved Axe FX, here I ALWAYS added a tubescreamer to my digital Rectifiers, it always made them sound MUCH better. And isn't it impressive what kind of sound we can get out of a device like an ipad? Going on tour with 2 iphones? I love the thought ;-) Would make logistics much more easy, I am sure our tourmanager would love the idea ;-) But well, my flight rack is down to 4 units already: Axe FX 2, Wireless System and a Power Conditioner, thats all I need to play a show if I can't take my full backline with me.


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post Sep 5 2012, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 4 2012, 06:49 AM) *
Same idea smile.gif It's a great way to make an amp really shine. I've seen people actually dissapointed with their new killer ENGL/MESA rig until they pop a little over drive pedal in front of it them BOOOOOOMMMM!!!

Shocking how less than $100 worth of stomp box can make thousands of amp shine.


C'mmon, who can be dissapointed with ENgl /Mesa tube head biggrin.gif
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post Sep 5 2012, 10:17 AM
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You would be surprised how many people buy such gear and are very dissapointed in the end. A big problem with tube amps is that for whatever reason it seems to be impossible to build two amps that sound the same. So people hear an amp, buy the same model but it turns out this one sounds completely different. Back in the 80s whn I was still playing Marshalls it was a nightmare, it was either heaven or hell. If you wanted to have a good amp you had to go to a shop, try all the amps they had and if you found the sound you were looking for you had to insist on getting exactly THIS amp. It got a bit better over the years, but the sound "tolerance" is still very big today.


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post Sep 5 2012, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 5 2012, 10:10 AM) *
C'mmon, who can be dissapointed with ENgl /Mesa tube head biggrin.gif


I once bought an ENGL Powerball. It came all the way from Scotland and I sent it back the next day. I felt a bit bad but it didn't have enough juice for nice, fluid legato lines. For rhythm playing, it was great but I wanted just 1 amp that does it all without having to add any fx to it.


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post Sep 5 2012, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 5 2012, 09:44 AM) *
I once bought an ENGL Powerball. It came all the way from Scotland and I sent it back the next day. I felt a bit bad but it didn't have enough juice for nice, fluid legato lines. For rhythm playing, it was great but I wanted just 1 amp that does it all without having to add any fx to it.


DID u check the TUBES state?
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post Sep 5 2012, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 5 2012, 11:40 AM) *
DID u check the TUBES state?


I can't remember... I probably would have checked everything to make sure I wasn't missing something.


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post Sep 5 2012, 03:40 PM
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The problem is not the tubes, the amps just sound very different, no matter if we are talking about the same models. Andre, the other guitarist in Blind Guardian, is using Engl amps, and for one US Tour Engl provided him with a couple of Powerballs (since we don't fly our own amps across the world, way to expensive due to overweight regulations) and the amp that he used on that US tour really sounded great. So when we were back in Germany he aked Engl to send him a Powerball... well, they did, but this amp didn't sound ANYTHING like the one he used on tour, the sound was not even close! Seriously, I don't know why there are such BIG differences in amps, but fact is: there are!


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post Sep 5 2012, 03:44 PM
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I'm all analogue with my giggin' rig but I can understand why some people use and love digital gear - it's much more easy to carry around, you don't mess up tubes and got more versatility (varietry of effects).

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post Sep 5 2012, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (Andre Nieri @ Sep 5 2012, 03:44 PM) *
I'm all analogue with my giggin' rig but I can understand why some people use and love digital gear - it's much more easy to carry around, you don't mess up tubes and got more versatility (varietry of effects).

Me too!
I wonder how long it will be before Guitarists just turn up with an iPad/Laptop etc and that's their whole rig in one unit!!
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post Sep 5 2012, 04:09 PM
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As I already mentioned, I couldn't care less about analog or digital, as long as it sounds great everything is fine for me. If it delivers my sound I will plug my guitar into a coffee machine wink.gif


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post Sep 6 2012, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Sep 5 2012, 04:09 PM) *
If it delivers my sound I will plug my guitar into a coffee machine wink.gif


Now that would be a great idea !! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 6 2012, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Sep 5 2012, 03:09 PM) *
As I already mentioned, I couldn't care less about analog or digital, as long as it sounds great everything is fine for me. If it delivers my sound I will plug my guitar into a coffee machine wink.gif


It is allowed, if it's made of pure STAINLESS STEEL!!!

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post Sep 6 2012, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 6 2012, 09:08 AM) *
It is allowed, if it's made of pure STAINLESS STEEL!!!


Slav, you must like Japanese Katanas as they are made out of many steel layers biggrin.gif


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post Sep 6 2012, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 6 2012, 10:08 AM) *
It is allowed, if it's made of pure STAINLESS STEEL!!!


Well, if you can plug into something that makes your guitar louder and makes you a cup of coffee, I don't care if it's made of rubber !! laugh.gif

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 6 2012, 10:25 AM) *
Slav, you must like Japanese Katanas as they are made out of many steel layers biggrin.gif


A Katana, however, will be no good to you at all if it were made of rubber.... ph34r.gif


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Guys, I have sold my old little amp (Marshall AVT50) today for the magnificent amount of 200 euros smile.gif I didn't need it anymore as I am rehearsing with both Voodoo and Aria in the same rehearsal room now.

Did any of you own this piece of gear?


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post Sep 6 2012, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 6 2012, 09:44 AM) *
Guys, I have sold my old little amp (Marshall AVT50) today for the magnificent amount of 200 euros smile.gif I didn't need it anymore as I am rehearsing with both Voodoo and Aria in the same rehearsal room now.

Did any of you own this piece of gear?



Youi've sold AVT50X 2000 for 200 eur, right?

They'go in serbia up to 300 eur (i almost traded one week ago)
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QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 6 2012, 10:06 AM) *
Youi've sold AVT50X 2000 for 200 eur, right?

They'go in serbia up to 300 eur (i almost traded one week ago)


Yup, well it was 10 years old so, I thought it was a fair price, judging on the amount of wear and tear it had due to gigging and rehearsals wink.gif


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post Sep 6 2012, 12:18 PM
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OOOh, then okay if u were jiggling with it wink.gif

Btw, i didn't get your question?

I owned AVT 20 , hybrid, it was good amp, with really bad clean channel (which was always dirty).
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 6 2012, 10:33 AM) *
A Katana, however, will be no good to you at all if it were made of rubber.... ph34r.gif

My Katana was awesome, it had some Rubber parts too!!!
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post Sep 6 2012, 04:26 PM
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Lol, this is not a Samurai edition, is it? wink.gif


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