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maharzan
post Sep 9 2012, 04:34 AM
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Hey Guys,

I have a Mbox 2 Pro and I can't seem to record more 2 tracks at once. (Micing or DIs, although they say its a 6 input interface).

So, I am trying to get another one where I can record at least 4 or 8 tracks at once. I want to record live acoustic sessions for youtube. Any help is much appreciated.

This is the first video we tried and want to put another guitar/backing vocals too.



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post Sep 9 2012, 07:13 AM
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Wads of choices available smile.gif really just depends on budget. What are you looking to spend?

There is a TASCAM 8 MIC INPUT model for about 300 bux.

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and the FOCUSRITE 9 MIC INPUT model for about 400 bux with a bit better mic preamps

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post Sep 9 2012, 08:18 AM
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Thanks Todd. Really Appreciate it. Budget around 500$ or less. Need a small unit if possible so I can take it anywhere and start recording. Focusrite seems good as it as 2 types of input. Couldn't find anywhere to buy though.


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post Sep 9 2012, 09:49 AM
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Do we have interfaces that integrate thunderbolt of FW800 yet ? Don't want to get old unit which might become obsolete in a year or two.


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Make sure that whatever interface you get can use all the channels concurrently. The issue with the MBox is probably down to this - although it has 6 inputs it can only use 2 at any one time. This is the same with quite a few of the prosumer interfaces.

There are few interfaces that use FW800 but most newish ones will get a patch for Thunderbolt at some stage.

I think Todd means the Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 or Pro14 - I think he's he's referring to the number of inputs rather than the product name.

If you want to stay with what you have you can. There are a lot of recordings done with just 2 mics, you just need to get the mic placement and mic technique sorted.


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Sep 9 2012, 04:49 AM) *
Do we have interfaces that integrate thunderbolt of FW800 yet ? Don't want to get old unit which might become obsolete in a year or two.


The existing interfaces that I'm aware of that support thunderbolt are outside your price range. IN that range you are looking FW400 or USB 2.0 typically but honestly that's more than plenty of bandwidth for project studio/home studio even some commercial studios.

I"d say find an online vendor that you trust and just use the search feature to limit interfaces by budget then refine the search by inputs/features if possible the remaining list won't be that long.

I use a TASCAM M16 UF (they are discontinued so they are really cheap now) and it will record all 16 inputs to your computer at once. I've only ever recorded 6 though as there are only 6 XLR inputs. The rest are xlr/quarter inch etc. I've seen them for just $300 bux or so online. They were more than double that. IT uses usb 2.0 to record.

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post Sep 12 2012, 02:57 PM
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Thank tony and Todd. I want to capture acoustic guitars (2) and a vocal/back vocal. And probably in future some more equipments. I want to record them separately in live session so I can mix them. 4 inputs would have been great only if I could find a way to use Mbox Pro to its fullest. They say external clock and what not, I have no clue. What are the 6 inputs for when you can only use 2 at a time. sad.gif


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Sep 12 2012, 02:57 PM) *
Thank tony and Todd. I want to capture acoustic guitars (2) and a vocal/back vocal. And probably in future some more equipments. I want to record them separately in live session so I can mix them. 4 inputs would have been great only if I could find a way to use Mbox Pro to its fullest. They say external clock and what not, I have no clue. What are the 6 inputs for when you can only use 2 at a time. sad.gif


External clocking is when you want a master clock to help with issues like clock jitter. The idea is that all digital equipment is sample rate locked to the frequency of the master clock. If you have clocking issues there are other things that you would need to investigate before you should start looking at external clocking anyway. To be absolutely honest they are very, very rarely needed and one wouldn't solve your input issue here anyway.

6 inputs when it only does 2 at a time - it's supposed to increase flexibilty as the inputs are different formats.

If you want to record the tracks as separate concurrent spots then you 'll need to look at either the Tascam that Todd recommends or something similar. As Todd's is an 8track it will also be able to cope with some future expansion. Also a small console/mixer like Todd suggests can be a bit more intuitive to use.

Or you could always record each track one at a time and then mix them together. You don't have to record everyone at the same time smile.gif but some people have difficulty playing along with headphone mixes.

You can also stereo mic what you want to record if you want. A near coincident or coincident pair set up would do it and a lot of small group recordings have been done this way. The Beatles live recordings were done on 3 tracks - a stereo track for the group and 1 extra track for vocal overdubs. We record a lot of jazz and small chamber groups using a stereo near conincident set up. Some instruments can be better multimiced though so a simple stereo set up ,ay not meet your future needs.


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Mr. Miro brings up a great point here. You can always mic the room and record the music live and get pretty spiff results once you get the hang of it. Or multi track. The multi input thing is sorta so you can all play live and still have seprate tracks to mix later. But if you get good sound going in, you can just do it in one pass wink.gif

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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 12 2012, 10:46 AM) *
External clocking is when you want a master clock to help with issues like clock jitter. The idea is that all digital equipment is sample rate locked to the frequency of the master clock. If you have clocking issues there are other things that you would need to investigate before you should start looking at external clocking anyway. To be absolutely honest they are very, very rarely needed and one wouldn't solve your input issue here anyway.

6 inputs when it only does 2 at a time - it's supposed to increase flexibilty as the inputs are different formats.

If you want to record the tracks as separate concurrent spots then you 'll need to look at either the Tascam that Todd recommends or something similar. As Todd's is an 8track it will also be able to cope with some future expansion. Also a small console/mixer like Todd suggests can be a bit more intuitive to use.

Or you could always record each track one at a time and then mix them together. You don't have to record everyone at the same time smile.gif but some people have difficulty playing along with headphone mixes.

You can also stereo mic what you want to record if you want. A near coincident or coincident pair set up would do it and a lot of small group recordings have been done this way. The Beatles live recordings were done on 3 tracks - a stereo track for the group and 1 extra track for vocal overdubs. We record a lot of jazz and small chamber groups using a stereo near conincident set up. Some instruments can be better multimiced though so a simple stereo set up ,ay not meet your future needs.



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