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jwizzle
post Sep 11 2012, 09:10 PM
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Hey guys my name's Josh and i've been playing for about 2 years, I dont have any knowledge of theory other than some pentatonic shapes and the blues note, Last week i discovered Vinnie Moore and was totally blown away, i've never heard somebody play the instrument with so much vigor and excitement, He doenst have a bad record to be honest, So i decided today to take some of the licks i learned and try them over a backing track , this is what i came up with http://soundcloud.com/josh-golden-1/joshsvinniemoorestyle
Heres the original backing track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-h_rPJlEk

Looking forward to some feedback and if you want i'm interested in hearing your takes as well,

thanks guys, Josh
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post Sep 11 2012, 09:26 PM
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Only playing two years? Real nice chops! The tone sounds pretty good too. smile.gif

Vinnie Moore is amazing, ain't he?


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post Sep 11 2012, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (DeGroot @ Sep 11 2012, 08:26 PM) *
Only playing two years? Real nice chops! The tone sounds pretty good too. smile.gif

Vinnie Moore is amazing, ain't he?



Yea man just starting with this site's lessons has helped some basics because i'm self taught, and Yea dude VM is the best, nobody has made me so jealous but at the same time you have to enjoy every record, he sounds like he's having a blast every time, really appreciate the feedback bro : ).
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post Sep 12 2012, 06:19 AM
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Playing any Vinnie Moore and doing it well is something to be proud of. Playing it after only a couple of years is something to be crazy proud of! Well played!


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post Sep 12 2012, 06:19 AM
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Playing any Vinnie Moore and doing it well is something to be proud of. Playing it after only a couple of years is something to be crazy proud of! Well played!


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post Sep 12 2012, 06:19 AM
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Playing any Vinnie Moore and doing it well is something to be proud of. Playing it after only a couple of years is something to be crazy proud of! Well played!


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post Sep 12 2012, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 12 2012, 05:19 AM) *
Playing any Vinnie Moore and doing it well is something to be proud of. Playing it after only a couple of years is something to be crazy proud of! Well played!



haha you dont have to be nice because i'm new tongue.gif lol thank you so much for the kind words man, i tried my best lol and had a blast running and stomping around my room recording it lol.
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post Sep 12 2012, 10:06 AM
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Hi Josh. Great stuff ! If you're gonna learn from anyone then Vinnie is an excellent choice ! Fantastic chops but even better than that is his excellent note choice and melodies. smile.gif

You've got some really good skills and timing ability. I've noticed that you're playing in a pentatonic box shape that doesn't sit very well over the key of the backing track.

It sounds like you're playing exclusively in a F# Minor pentatonic shape ?

From 0:00 up to about 0:29 the backing track is in the key of E, so an E Minor pentatonic/ E Dorian mode will suit you here. Before it gets going though, there's a B5 power chord at 0:13. For that I would work with B Minor pentatonic and maybe add some major 3rds in there too.

I lot of guys do that when using minor pentatonics. Adding major 3rds makes it a bit more 'cool' and groovy.

From 0:29 to 0:41 it has an A5/ Aminor to F progression. The hammer on of C during that A chord and the F chord afterwards suggests a minor tonality so A minor pentatonic or A minor scale will suit you here.

From there it does an A5, B5, C5 progression. A minor still works. Then it goes back to that B5 chord so you might want to switch back to B Minor pentatonic to sound correct over that.

When you listen to a chord progression there will always be a general key that you can follow. Even if there's several chords there will be a scale that you can take that will work over most, if not all, of the chords. You just have to find out which one it is. Usually it's the scale relating to the chord that starts the progression.

This is usually the story with rock and metal. Of course if you're gettin' into jazz or progressive stuff then that's getting heavier on the theory but for this kind of thing, find the chord that starts the sequence and there's your scale. smile.gif

I'll leave the rest with you. This stuff is better practised by ear / trial and error !


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post Sep 12 2012, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 12 2012, 09:06 AM) *
Hi Josh. Great stuff ! If you're gonna learn from anyone then Vinnie is an excellent choice ! Fantastic chops but even better than that is his excellent note choice and melodies. smile.gif

You've got some really good skills and timing ability. I've noticed that you're playing in a pentatonic box shape that doesn't sit very well over the key of the backing track.

It sounds like you're playing exclusively in a F# Minor pentatonic shape ?

From 0:00 up to about 0:29 the backing track is in the key of E, so an E Minor pentatonic/ E Dorian mode will suit you here. Before it gets going though, there's a B5 power chord at 0:13. For that I would work with B Minor pentatonic and maybe add some major 3rds in there too.

I lot of guys do that when using minor pentatonics. Adding major 3rds makes it a bit more 'cool' and groovy.

From 0:29 to 0:41 it has an A5/ Aminor to F progression. The hammer on of C during that A chord and the F chord afterwards suggests a minor tonality so A minor pentatonic or A minor scale will suit you here.

From there it does an A5, B5, C5 progression. A minor still works. Then it goes back to that B5 chord so you might want to switch back to B Minor pentatonic to sound correct over that.

When you listen to a chord progression there will always be a general key that you can follow. Even if there's several chords there will be a scale that you can take that will work over most, if not all, of the chords. You just have to find out which one it is. Usually it's the scale relating to the chord that starts the progression.

This is usually the story with rock and metal. Of course if you're gettin' into jazz or progressive stuff then that's getting heavier on the theory but for this kind of thing, find the chord that starts the sequence and there's your scale. smile.gif

I'll leave the rest with you. This stuff is better practised by ear / trial and error !



Hey Ben! Thank you so much for this feeback, this is exactly why i joined this website, the theory here isnt too in depth for me to understand, and i can totally hear that in the middle run I def go out of key or something it has an off sound. however i do remember feeling some chord changes and getting some good notes but i will start practicing these scales over that track to get the groove and i'll throw some licks in accordingly, again thanks so much for the in depth feedback man, really appreciate it.!



QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 12 2012, 09:06 AM) *
Hi Josh. Great stuff ! If you're gonna learn from anyone then Vinnie is an excellent choice ! Fantastic chops but even better than that is his excellent note choice and melodies. smile.gif

You've got some really good skills and timing ability. I've noticed that you're playing in a pentatonic box shape that doesn't sit very well over the key of the backing track.

It sounds like you're playing exclusively in a F# Minor pentatonic shape ?

From 0:00 up to about 0:29 the backing track is in the key of E, so an E Minor pentatonic/ E Dorian mode will suit you here. Before it gets going though, there's a B5 power chord at 0:13. For that I would work with B Minor pentatonic and maybe add some major 3rds in there too.

I lot of guys do that when using minor pentatonics. Adding major 3rds makes it a bit more 'cool' and groovy.

From 0:29 to 0:41 it has an A5/ Aminor to F progression. The hammer on of C during that A chord and the F chord afterwards suggests a minor tonality so A minor pentatonic or A minor scale will suit you here.

From there it does an A5, B5, C5 progression. A minor still works. Then it goes back to that B5 chord so you might want to switch back to B Minor pentatonic to sound correct over that.

When you listen to a chord progression there will always be a general key that you can follow. Even if there's several chords there will be a scale that you can take that will work over most, if not all, of the chords. You just have to find out which one it is. Usually it's the scale relating to the chord that starts the progression.

This is usually the story with rock and metal. Of course if you're gettin' into jazz or progressive stuff then that's getting heavier on the theory but for this kind of thing, find the chord that starts the sequence and there's your scale. smile.gif

I'll leave the rest with you. This stuff is better practised by ear / trial and error !



Hey Ben! Thank you so much for this feeback, this is exactly why i joined this website, the theory here isnt too in depth for me to understand, and i can totally hear that in the middle run I def go out of key or something it has an off sound. however i do remember feeling some chord changes and getting some good notes but i will start practicing these scales over that track to get the groove and i'll throw some licks in accordingly, again thanks so much for the in depth feedback man, really appreciate it.!

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