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Cosmin Lupu
post Sep 24 2012, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 24 2012, 08:41 AM) *
It does look really interesting. She's clearly one of those people who thinks about the physical demands that a singer faces.. even though I've not interest in singing/screaming I'd still watch it just because it's so interesting smile.gif


I totally recommend watching BOTH DVDs wink.gif It is a great experience to see and understand how a natural instrument is working!


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post Sep 24 2012, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 24 2012, 09:42 AM) *
I totally recommend watching BOTH DVDs wink.gif It is a great experience to see and understand how a natural instrument is working!


Yes, I think she's doing great work. There's always been classical singing instructors, pop instructors etc so it's brilliant that there's somebody who studies the mechanics of extreme metal vocals.

Although those throat camera shots really creep me out !! tongue.gif


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post Sep 24 2012, 11:14 AM
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I think one of the big differences between Melissa and other singing teachers, is that others are so focused on not doing any damage to the vocal chords and throat, whereas Melissa is about minimising it as much as you can with the screaming/shouting genres.

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post Sep 25 2012, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 24 2012, 10:14 AM) *
I think one of the big differences between Melissa and other singing teachers, is that others are so focused on not doing any damage to the vocal chords and throat, whereas Melissa is about minimising it as much as you can with the screaming/shouting genres.


Good point man - I would most definitely like to know if there is a technique for extreme singing out there which does NOT harm your vocal chords at all biggrin.gif


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post Sep 25 2012, 08:40 AM
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I scanned through the 2nd DVD yesterday and my biggest complaint with it and the first is the amount of filler scenes.
I would much just see the explainations, examples and exercises.

I've seen some live video of All that remains and even with her tuition you can tell the screaming is taking it's toll on his vocal chords when he starts singing clean (this maybe down to him as the student rather than her as the teacher though)

Cosmin with the vocal fry etc are you starting off quietly and slowly building to your normal singing volume once you've got the technique down?


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post Sep 25 2012, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 25 2012, 07:40 AM) *
I scanned through the 2nd DVD yesterday and my biggest complaint with it and the first is the amount of filler scenes.
I would much just see the explainations, examples and exercises.

I've seen some live video of All that remains and even with her tuition you can tell the screaming is taking it's toll on his vocal chords when he starts singing clean (this maybe down to him as the student rather than her as the teacher though)

Cosmin with the vocal fry etc are you starting off quietly and slowly building to your normal singing volume once you've got the technique down?


I'm sure it's most likely him biggrin.gif Probably he gets lost in the moment onstage - in my case, yes, I have started quietly and trying to increase volume as time goes by.


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post Sep 25 2012, 09:08 AM
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Check out http://themodernvocalistworld.com lots of articles and resources there


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post Sep 26 2012, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 25 2012, 08:08 AM) *


I know that place! It seems like a sort of GMC without the guitars tongue.gif should it be more like, VMC - vocalmasterclass.net biggrin.gif

Anyway, the dude behind it - Robert Lunte, seems a bit fake somehow, don't wanna offend him or anything, but Melissa seems like an honest person, while Robert expresses - BUY, BUY, BUYYYYYYYYY with every word he says laugh.gif

Am I the only one having this impression?

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post Sep 26 2012, 01:42 PM
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He seems very theatrical in his demos. Which puts me off. He doesn't come across as commercial and buy my product as Brett Manning.


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post Sep 27 2012, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 26 2012, 12:42 PM) *
He seems very theatrical in his demos. Which puts me off. He doesn't come across as commercial and buy my product as Brett Manning.


Dunno who that dude is, but in their case, you have to agree that Melissa beats them through her sincerity biggrin.gif


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post Sep 27 2012, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 27 2012, 10:46 AM) *
Dunno who that dude is, but in their case, you have to agree that Melissa beats them through her sincerity biggrin.gif


I think that whenever somebody creates something with the foremost desire to help people and spread knowledge before anything, then that sincerity shines through and people can feel that smile.gif

Not saying those other guys don't have that desire but Melissa clearly does and is passionate about the musical form too smile.gif


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post Sep 28 2012, 09:09 AM
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I just watched the first DVD. It was amazing - really. It cleared up alot of questions I had, and the examples she gives really helped me tune into the proper zone - above the pencil! I'm getting the second DVD now. Thanks again for sharing this!


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post Sep 28 2012, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Sep 28 2012, 08:09 AM) *
I just watched the first DVD. It was amazing - really. It cleared up alot of questions I had, and the examples she gives really helped me tune into the proper zone - above the pencil! I'm getting the second DVD now. Thanks again for sharing this!


Hehe! Glad to know it's working for ya mate tongue.gif I should receive free courses from her for the free promo laugh.gif


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post Sep 28 2012, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Sep 28 2012, 09:09 AM) *
I just watched the first DVD. It was amazing - really. It cleared up alot of questions I had, and the examples she gives really helped me tune into the proper zone - above the pencil! I'm getting the second DVD now. Thanks again for sharing this!



That really helped me.

One thing she doesn't go into which is probably the biggest improvement I've had in my upper range in terms of relaxation and better tone is vowel shapes. Narrowing the vowels, really helps to keep the larynx down. Definitely something to look into


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post Sep 28 2012, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Sep 28 2012, 09:09 AM) *
I just watched the first DVD. It was amazing - really. It cleared up alot of questions I had, and the examples she gives really helped me tune into the proper zone - above the pencil! I'm getting the second DVD now. Thanks again for sharing this!


So can we expect a death metal side project soon ?? smile.gif


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post Sep 28 2012, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 28 2012, 02:02 AM) *
So can we expect a death metal side project soon ?? smile.gif


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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Sep 28 2012, 10:57 PM) *
workin on it!


Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh, here comes the roooosteeer! laugh.gif That parrot is actually ON the groove at about 0:15 laugh.gif


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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Sep 28 2012, 11:57 PM) *
workin on it!


Thanks Jams.. that really made me laugh !! laugh.gif


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