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post Sep 25 2012, 07:56 AM
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I'm a big Paul Gilbert fanboy, who in their right mind isn't?

He's a rock song encyclopaedia, and often mentions learning loads of early aerosmith, kiss songs etc

Learning solos where great melody and riffs were in abundance rather than speed and flash.

I'm thinking that maybe I missed this really important part of my education.

I only recently (in the last year or so) listened to Van Halen, so there are probably must know songs, bands and solos I'm missing out on


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post Sep 25 2012, 09:27 AM
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I think what characterises those years of just soaking up other people's riffs and licks is pure innocence. Just taking from anything that appeals to you. Having the beginner's mind means you can remain an eternal student and keep learning.

But do it because you want to, don't feel you 'have to' smile.gif


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post Sep 25 2012, 01:56 PM
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I agree with Ben.
Also, keep in mind, that when Paul Gilbert was a kid (he has the same age of mine), guitar instruction was different. No online lessons, no you tube, no recording at home, no Amazon to buy books. The only thing you could do was playing an LP and try to copy what you were listening.

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post Sep 25 2012, 03:03 PM
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I do agree but I'm quite interested in getting into the guys that slipped through my net, like Neal Schon, and most of the 80's guys


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post Oct 1 2012, 05:21 AM
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Don't worry you haven't "Missed" anything smile.gif The bands a guitarist grew up learning, especially with players who learned before 1995 and the explosion of the web, can often be the bands that are happening when that guitarist gets their first real guitar. Not always, but often wink.gif For example, Paul Gilbert learned to play when VanHalen was a really hot band with a great lead guitar player. Just like someone learning to play more recently may drift toward dream theatre or PERIPHERY etc.

So absorb what is around you and just keep moving. As you come across new influences, absorb them smile.gif Take it all as it comes. Don't worry about missing anything as there is no limit to what's out there. You'll find great stuff as you go.

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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 25 2012, 02:56 AM) *
I'm a big Paul Gilbert fanboy, who in their right mind isn't?

He's a rock song encyclopaedia, and often mentions learning loads of early aerosmith, kiss songs etc

Learning solos where great melody and riffs were in abundance rather than speed and flash.

I'm thinking that maybe I missed this really important part of my education.

I only recently (in the last year or so) listened to Van Halen, so there are probably must know songs, bands and solos I'm missing out on



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post Oct 1 2012, 08:51 AM
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It does make me wonder why at age 12 when I was already 3 years into my guitar learning journey, I was listening to Howard Jones, and not rock music.



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QUOTE (carminemarotta @ Sep 25 2012, 04:56 AM) *
I agree with Ben.
Also, keep in mind, that when Paul Gilbert was a kid (he has the same age of mine), guitar instruction was different. No online lessons, no you tube, no recording at home, no Amazon to buy books. The only thing you could do was playing an LP and try to copy what you were listening.

Carmine

+1!! I wore out LP's learning songs like that,and cassettes as well. That and Guitar tabs from books bought at the music store, and Guitar for the Practicing Musician mags .But alot of music you could not find tabs for back then , nothing like today where you can find most anything with a few clicks.
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post Oct 3 2012, 11:27 AM
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Guess we are spoiled these days..and that's ok. I started with a guitarmagazine..but the real hard practice stays the same during the years.
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post Oct 5 2012, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 25 2012, 10:27 AM) *
I think what characterises those years of just soaking up other people's riffs and licks is pure innocence. Just taking from anything that appeals to you. Having the beginner's mind means you can remain an eternal student and keep learning.

But do it because you want to, don't feel you 'have to' smile.gif


I absolutely agree with you. I spent so much time in my bedroom learning old Black Sabbath and Maiden stuff back then, because that was the stuff I wanted to play, I learned to much by doing that :-)


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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Oct 5 2012, 08:19 AM) *
I absolutely agree with you. I spent so much time in my bedroom learning old Black Sabbath and Maiden stuff back then, because that was the stuff I wanted to play, I learned to much by doing that :-)


I believe so, yes. I think when you're following your heart, you make the most progress and you're not even consciously aware of the changes because you're just absorbed in the 'doing' of it smile.gif


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