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Pavel
post Jun 19 2007, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE (JOhn @ Jun 19 2007, 01:16 PM) *
ok i going to take Pavel's advice because even you fkalich recommended it and two again zero lol

but just to make sure in the arpeggio above in the quote, i play the 14 only with my index finger and the same down right?


No - you play it with ring or middle finger (which one is better for you) - i use middle finger for those shapes!


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post Jun 19 2007, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Jun 17 2007, 12:08 PM) *
I agree with what you say. However, while Li seems personable enough, he does not explain it as well as pavel does. if you look at the lessons and some forum threads this horse have been beaten to death.


I totally agree with you, Pavels explaination enabled me to get it right off the bat. I just thought he might benifit from seeing it from a different angle! smile.gif


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post Jun 20 2007, 07:10 AM
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thats for all the help it really helped smile.gif


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post Jun 20 2007, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE (JOhn @ Jun 19 2007, 06:16 AM) *
ok i going to take Pavel's advice because even you fkalich recommended it and two again zero lol

but just to make sure in the arpeggio above in the quote, i play the 14 only with my index finger and the same down right?


I would not say play the 14 with index, i would say ring finger. i would say it is:


1 4 3 3 3 1 4 1 3 3 3 4 1
---------------12-17-12------------------------
------------14-----------14--------------------
----------14----------------14----------------
-------14----------------------14-------------
12h-16---------------------------16p-12----------
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some might play the 14 with the 2nd finger, i guess. but not the index. you would not play it as a bar chord though, the index finger tip would be on the 6th string, and shift into position over the 1st string, and then back to the 6th.

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post Jun 20 2007, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Jun 19 2007, 03:21 AM) *
Well if it works good for you than it's great!!

And i also noticed my thumb position is changing depending on what i am playing. Think i will work a bit more on that! smile.gif
Anyway - nice discussion!
John: As i said - visit the Luca Turilli Style lesson - i think it's in the last video - those sweeps you are wondering about - i give a little tip on them there! smile.gif


Is it bad to change thumb postions? because when i do Legato. My thumb goes really far down. But when i bend, or w/e else. I have way more control with my thumb just poking out of the top of the neck, not even half an inch!! Is that bad or what?

QUOTE (JOhn @ Jun 19 2007, 06:16 AM) *
ok i going to take Pavel's advice because even you fkalich recommended it and two again zero lol

but just to make sure in the arpeggio above in the quote, i play the 14 only with my index finger and the same down right?


Dont use your Index use your ring, or middle(like me biggrin.gif). Using your index would make nosense what so ever!!

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post Jun 20 2007, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Jun 20 2007, 05:01 PM) *
Is it bad to change thumb postions? because when i do Legato. My thumb goes really far down. But when i bend, or w/e else. I have way more control with my thumb just poking out of the top of the neck, not even half an inch!! Is that bad or what?
Dont use your Index use your ring, or middle(like me biggrin.gif). Using your index would make nosense what so ever!!



yeh i got my index finger mixed up with my third finger (i don't know what its called laugh.gif )


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post Jun 20 2007, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Jun 20 2007, 02:01 AM) *
Is it bad to change thumb postions? because when i do Legato. My thumb goes really far down. But when i bend, or w/e else. I have way more control with my thumb just poking out of the top of the neck, not even half an inch!! Is that bad or what?


This has always been a taboo in classical guitar. Some may say that this taboo is not relevant to electric guitar. Myself, i feel (for reasons that seem self-evident to me) that unless you have problems with your hands (pain), or possibly just don't have very strong hands/wrists, you don't help yourself cradling the neck. I don't think it is so much thumb positioning, it is the collapsing of the thumb and resting the palm (below the thumb) on the back of the neck. I think that if you will find that you can bend a string just fine without doing that, you will just modify your technique accordingly (rely more on wrists for strength than leveraging with the palm below the thumb).

That being said, people will disagree. Most do what you are saying, including the guitar gods past and present.

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