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Practice, An appreciation for what it really is.
Todd Simpson
Oct 17 2012, 09:36 PM
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Baby steps are all anyone can take believe it or not, especially when starting out. It's sort of a long series of little improvements that happens over time. Something happens, say you go to play something that seemed difficult a bit back, and you notice it's much easier. It's in times lick that where you can be shocked to find you've improved drastically.

Some really great replies in this thread! And some great points! There really isn't any point killing yourself to play stuff that you never plan to use. And playing music, any music you enjoy, is a great way to get better and be able to enjoy more about playing. I have had students who almost punish themselves in to practicing which can lead to a sort of depression where guitar seems like an obligation. Egad thats horrible.

I'm not saying there won't ever be bits that feel like pure homework, just that it's really important to focus on what makes playing guitar (or anything) worth doing. Once you find what that is, your growth/development as a player will gain a steady momentum. Which is very important for getting better at anything that requires practice/repetition. smile.gif

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QUOTE (rokchik @ Oct 16 2012, 10:08 AM) *
LoL!! I actually don't have any aspirations to be a guitar god either smile.gif

I have a few songs I want to learn and a few techniques for me that is enough right now. Maybe down the road I may wish to do more musically, but until then I'm happy with the small goals I have set out for myself. Once I reach those ill sent some more I'm sure but again ill be taking baby steps smile.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
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I will add another martial arts piece of wisdom here smile.gif

'A man came to a Sensei and asked him: If I study hard, how fast will it take for me to become good?' the Sensei said: 10 years. The man continued: I will train even harder, how much then?. Sensei said: 20 years. The man became desperate and said, how much will it take if I train day and night?!! Sensei said: 30 years.

Musashi himself said: 'Too much is the same as not enough' which is the same as the story above. I think what these words mean, is that the more we stress ourselves out to reach a certain level/ overcome a certain obstacle, the more frustrated we will become and things will be harder to achieve because we can't get the right mental state to evolve in a harmonious way.

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 18 2012, 08:20 AM) *
I will add another martial arts piece of wisdom here smile.gif

'A man came to a Sensei and asked him: If I study hard, how fast will it take for me to become good?' the Sensei said: 10 years. The man continued: I will train even harder, how much then?. Sensei said: 20 years. The man became desperate and said, how much will it take if I train day and night?!! Sensei said: 30 years.


Yes, if you always have one eye fixed on your destination then you only have one left with which to find The Way smile.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
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Indeed smile.gif

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Todd Simpson
Oct 20 2012, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Oct 18 2012, 04:52 AM) *
Yes, if you always have one eye fixed on your destination then you only have one left with which to find The Way smile.gif


A very hard teaching to absorb for any initiate to be sure. I remember having the same questions of course when I first started playing and a similar perspective. "What if I just don't sleep and practice 24 hours a day forever? Then how long will it take?" The drive and impatience that is just part of being human is something that learning any instrument or skill will help to transform and in eventually lead to an entirely new perspective.

Of course, this in itself is years in the making. Looking at the mountain of practice from the valley of getting started can be daunting. How far to the top? How long will it take? What's the "best" way forward? These are natural questions and they represent the start of what can be a life long quest. Somewhere on the way to top, you discover to your astonishment that

the peak was an illussion. The path itself is eternal.

As we know from THE MATRIX movie, "There is a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path".

Walk the path!

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Cosmin Lupu
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Great words Todd! I am discovering this myself again and it feels incredibly well to be able to do it again smile.gif With the sword I mean tongue.gif

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Great words, Todd ! smile.gif

As Zen would teach.. never focus on the length of the journey or the destination. Just focus on taking the step you need to take today, now, at this moment. Then forget about it. When the time comes to do it again, do it again.

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My wife said to me yesterday "all you do is practise,you never actually play anything".Her comment and this topic has reminded me to spend more time actually making music and enjoying playing

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this thread is all kinds of awesome on a cosmic level. I wish I could email it back to my 17 year old self.
However, just incase time traversing emails dont happen any time soon Im just gonna keep walking the path smile.gif

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QUOTE (bleez @ Oct 20 2012, 12:15 PM) *
this thread is all kinds of awesome on a cosmic level. I wish I could email it back to my 17 year old self.
However, just incase time traversing emails dont happen any time soon Im just gonna keep walking the path smile.gif


I often had this thought smile.gif What if I could think like I'm doing it now, back then biggrin.gif And then I realize that this is the way things are supposed to go. No regrets mates, make the best of what you have and if you reach a level of high understanding, it is WAY better if it happens, regardless of the time when it will happen, rather than not experiencing it at all. At least that's my perspective on things smile.gif

QUOTE (tonyk @ Oct 20 2012, 08:27 AM) *
My wife said to me yesterday "all you do is practise,you never actually play anything".Her comment and this topic has reminded me to spend more time actually making music and enjoying playing


See, we all need a woman to tell us that from time to time tongue.gif

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