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Ben Higgins
post Nov 23 2012, 11:29 AM
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Task 43: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Lamb-o...-Style-Riffing/

Righto, my guitar wielding friends... time for more riffs. You didn't think that would be it for your crunch master class did you ?? cool.gif

This one uses more alternate picking but you've still got to maintain that tight palm muting as well as precise left hand position shifting.

If you nail this one you'll be ready to step in if Metallica need a stand in at a show near you ! smile.gif

Deadline is next Friday 30th November !


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post Nov 25 2012, 09:41 PM
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Wow, Ben, out of all the Tasks about rhythm playing, I like this one by far the best (still not as much as your very own Iced Earth Style lesson, but that I already recorded smile.gif ). I will definitely give this one a go...


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post Nov 25 2012, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Opetholic @ Nov 25 2012, 08:41 PM) *
Wow, Ben, out of all the Tasks about rhythm playing, I like this one by far the best (still not as much as your very own Iced Earth Style lesson, but that I already recorded smile.gif ). I will definitely give this one a go...


That's great to hear.. I look forward to seeing and hearing it smile.gif


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post Nov 26 2012, 02:40 AM
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Hey, its me..... again!

This was a good choice and a fun one to play. This kind of double bass flow gives me less fits than the funky grooves from last week. smile.gif



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post Nov 26 2012, 03:43 AM
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Nice one Degroot. I've got it down at about 90% speed right now. Shouldn't be too far behind you.

It's the second half that's hard for me to play clean at full speed.


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post Nov 26 2012, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (DeGroot @ Nov 26 2012, 01:40 AM) *
Hey, its me..... again!

This was a good choice and a fun one to play. This kind of double bass flow gives me less fits than the funky grooves from last week. smile.gif



Man that sounds flawless ! Love it smile.gif

I like how your little one is keeping a watchful eye on your playing, just to make sure you're doing it properly !! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (gregc1 @ Nov 26 2012, 02:43 AM) *
Nice one Degroot. I've got it down at about 90% speed right now. Shouldn't be too far behind you.

It's the second half that's hard for me to play clean at full speed.


Look forward to hearing it Greg.. there ain't nothin' that you can't do !! smile.gif


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post Nov 26 2012, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 26 2012, 10:06 AM) *
Man that sounds flawless ! Love it smile.gif

I like how your little one is keeping a watchful eye on your playing, just to make sure you're doing it properly !! biggrin.gif



Thanks Ben! My daughter is not so patient if I can't get a take down. Too many takes and I'll start to hear about it!

Her new thing is to 'tweak' my sound as I'm doing these mini recording sessions. Now I have to block off access towards the amp controls. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (gregc1 @ Nov 26 2012, 02:43 AM) *
Nice one Degroot. I've got it down at about 90% speed right now. Shouldn't be too far behind you.

It's the second half that's hard for me to play clean at full speed.


Thanks man! No doubt, those slippery power chord shifts in the second half is the trickiest part.


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post Nov 26 2012, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE (DeGroot @ Nov 26 2012, 05:34 PM) *
Her new thing is to 'tweak' my sound as I'm doing these mini recording sessions. Now I have to block off access towards the amp controls. biggrin.gif


Oh that is just classic !!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Nov 26 2012, 10:00 PM
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Ok here is my take, I don't know how it will be since there are some riffing machines like Mr D-G and Mr Greg here but well I enjoyed it a lot (since it has some AP tongue.gif )

Here we go



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post Nov 26 2012, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE (Opetholic @ Nov 26 2012, 09:00 PM) *
Ok here is my take, I don't know how it will be since there are some riffing machines like Mr D-G and Mr Greg here but well I enjoyed it a lot (since it has some AP tongue.gif )

Here we go



Not bad at all Mert.. that was generally damn tight.. nice work !! smile.gif

But I have to tell you off.. I shouldn't need to remind a metal guy to include that most important element should I ?? biggrin.gif

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post Nov 26 2012, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 26 2012, 11:00 PM) *
But I have to tell you off.

Oh man sad.gif this palm muting technique is always evading me. If I don't pay attention to my right hand I end up not palm muting, if I pay attention then I am too slow.. Next time for rhythm playing I should tackle the apprentice bushido task..


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post Nov 27 2012, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE (Opetholic @ Nov 26 2012, 10:26 PM) *
Next time for rhythm playing I should tackle the apprentice bushido task..


Not necessarily.. you can play just fine.. it's just the tone characteristics, the sound that we're looking to hone, not the technique itself. So you're doing good, man... palm muting is a relatively easy thing to get good at smile.gif


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post Nov 29 2012, 07:07 PM
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Here's my take on this Task. I actually have video too but my wife is out of town and apparently has the USB I need to get the video off my phone. All of them. dry.gif

I figured since we're at the deadline I would just go ahead and post the audio. It's not REC quality anyways so no big deal I guess. I have it much cleaner in the 90-95% speed range but I figured I would be true to the task and show my progress at 100% speed. The second part was the hardest for me to keep it nice and staccato and there were struggles in the first part but it seemed easier than the multi-string chugging. Like the Metallica task stamina was an issue but got easier and easier as I went. 80% speed was a struggle to keep up with when I first started.



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post Nov 29 2012, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE (gregc1 @ Nov 29 2012, 06:07 PM) *
Here's my take on this Task. I actually have video too but my wife is out of town and apparently has the USB I need to get the video off my phone. All of them. dry.gif

I figured since we're at the deadline I would just go ahead and post the audio. It's not REC quality anyways so no big deal I guess. I have it much cleaner in the 90-95% speed range but I figured I would be true to the task and show my progress at 100% speed. The second part was the hardest for me to keep it nice and staccato and there were struggles in the first part but it seemed easier than the multi-string chugging. Like the Metallica task stamina was an issue but got easier and easier as I went. 80% speed was a struggle to keep up with when I first started.


Sounds very nice Greg.. I like your tone on this one, it has a nice, dry staccato feel to it that works very well with the lesson.

Stamina is definitely the hard part with all these riffathons.. have you and DG noticed an increase in your overall riffing stamina though ? smile.gif


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post Nov 29 2012, 09:49 PM
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I have a question about this lesson. After Ben's comment on my take which was lacking palm muting and listening to DG's take and especially Greg's take I am slightly confused. Isn't it the case that in the lesson only the low notes on the E string are palm muted and everything else on other strings and high notes on E string are not palm muted ? For example if you look at the 4th part of the lesson you will see that in the melodic line there is no palm muting.. Do you guys agree ?


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post Nov 30 2012, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 29 2012, 08:41 PM) *
Sounds very nice Greg.. I like your tone on this one, it has a nice, dry staccato feel to it that works very well with the lesson.

Stamina is definitely the hard part with all these riffathons.. have you and DG noticed an increase in your overall riffing stamina though ? smile.gif



Thanks Ben. Yeah I've definitely noticed a increase in my stamina. The Metallica task is really what triggered it but it seems to have carried over. No way I could have done this task at full speed a few weeks ago.

QUOTE (Opetholic @ Nov 29 2012, 08:49 PM) *
I have a question about this lesson. After Ben's comment on my take which was lacking palm muting and listening to DG's take and especially Greg's take I am slightly confused. Isn't it the case that in the lesson only the low notes on the E string are palm muted and everything else on other strings and high notes on E string are not palm muted ? For example if you look at the 4th part of the lesson you will see that in the melodic line there is no palm muting.. Do you guys agree ?


I can tell you that I over-muted, I pretty much muted the whole thing. For some reason I can maintain a higher speed while I'm muting rather than playing them open. I know the transition part in the first half is not supposed to be muted and I believe there are a couple more parts not muted as well. I was just so focused on timing that my instincts just took over and I did what was natural for me.


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post Nov 30 2012, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (Opetholic @ Nov 29 2012, 08:49 PM) *
I have a question about this lesson. After Ben's comment on my take which was lacking palm muting and listening to DG's take and especially Greg's take I am slightly confused. Isn't it the case that in the lesson only the low notes on the E string are palm muted and everything else on other strings and high notes on E string are not palm muted ? For example if you look at the 4th part of the lesson you will see that in the melodic line there is no palm muting.. Do you guys agree ?


You are right, Mert. It's the open E strings that need to be muted in order to give a percussive sound to the riff so that the other, non muted notes act as the accents and stand out even more.

Looking at your video, the way you anchor your hand might mean that it isn't necessarily 'in position' to mute heavily. Also, it's quite far back, nearer the bridge so any muting you do sounds a lot brighter and not quite as chuggy. At least that's what I have found in my experience.

It could just be a case of slightly bringing the big, lower part of your thumb joint in towards the bottom E string a bit more to connect with the strings and get the mute... or it could be a case of bringing the whole hand forward by a centimetre or two so the far side of your inner palm is able to touch the strings and get the palm muting effect.

Maybe a combo of those things or neither ! tongue.gif It's hard to say exactly but I don't think it will take a drastic alteration at all so fear not, I don't think you need to alter your picking technique at all, just a bit of experimentation to get the optimum postion so you can AP and palm mute together smile.gif


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post Dec 1 2012, 03:32 PM
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Ok here is another take. Here I changed my tone to a more dry one, maybe palm mutings are more apparent here ? I don't know..



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post Dec 1 2012, 05:53 PM
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Nice dude. That sounded really good.


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post Dec 1 2012, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 1 2012, 02:32 PM) *
Ok here is another take. Here I changed my tone to a more dry one, maybe palm mutings are more apparent here ? I don't know..



It's a little more apparent, especially in the second half but most of the open E's still sound un muted to me. I'm starting to gravitate more towards the theory that it might be because you're hand is quite far back to the bridge so the muting is light.


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