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post Dec 1 2012, 07:41 PM
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Hey there,
as a totally Lamb Of God fan, I had to work on this one. But as you all figured out, the palm muting thing is quite difficult,especially to some middle range guitar player like me. Anyway, i really want to play this good. So I'm starting slow, and after a all week, I can't go faster than 130 bpm (stop laughing right now, all of you! mad.gif )
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Can you tell me if the muting is enough or not ? If the timing is acceptable or if I need to go even slower ?
Thank you.

http://soundcloud.com/grindguer/lamb-of-god-style-riffing/s-lukU9


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post Dec 1 2012, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (GrindGuer @ Dec 1 2012, 06:41 PM) *
Hey there,
as a totally Lamb Of God fan, I had to work on this one. But as you all figured out, the palm muting thing is quite difficult,especially to some middle range guitar player like me. Anyway, i really want to play this good. So I'm starting slow, and after a all week, I can't go faster than 130 bpm (stop laughing right now, all of you! mad.gif )
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Can you tell me if the muting is enough or not ? If the timing is acceptable or if I need to go even slower ?
Thank you.

http://soundcloud.com/grindguer/lamb-of-god-style-riffing/s-lukU9


Man, that sounds 'right on the money', as we say in Olde England ! biggrin.gif

Muting sounds right and so does the timing.. well done !


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post Dec 1 2012, 09:08 PM
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Thank you Ben. I'll try to get it up to speed...


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post Dec 1 2012, 09:16 PM
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Hell yeah Grind, that sounded extremely accurate.


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post Dec 1 2012, 09:37 PM
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Hey Opeth,

Not sure this will help but I analyzed my picking hand closer to see what I do for palm muting. I always have the side of my palm resting over the bridge (just enough to dampen the strings) and cup my hand slightly when I'm accenting notes that I don't want muted. It is a subtle move that you probably can't see in a video (couple moments it is more noticable in the second half). Maybe not the best habit to have cause sometimes I slightly mute notes that I shouldn't. Specially when playing non-metal stuff. smile.gif

Anyway, really nice tight playing by all!


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post Dec 1 2012, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (DeGroot @ Dec 1 2012, 09:37 PM) *
Hey Opeth,

Not sure this will help but I analyzed my picking hand closer to see what I do for palm muting. I always have the side of my palm resting over the bridge (just enough to dampen the strings) and cup my hand slightly when I'm accenting notes that I don't want muted. It is a subtle move that you probably can't see in a video (couple moments it is more noticable in the second half). Maybe not the best habit to have cause sometimes I slightly mute notes that I shouldn't. Specially when playing non-metal stuff. smile.gif

Anyway, really nice tight playing by all!

Thanks DG for the explanation smile.gif I will see if I can apply your technique. My problem is the following: my picking technique is such that I attack the strings from a very steep angle, at least perpendicular to the string and many times more than 90 degrees. So that creates a big cup inside my hand. I think this is a habit I have due to long and long years of classical guitar playing. In classical guitar you always need to maintain this cup, as if holding an orange in your hand.. Anyway, so that makes it hard for me to palm mute sad.gif


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post Dec 2 2012, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 1 2012, 09:19 PM) *
Thanks DG for the explanation smile.gif I will see if I can apply your technique. My problem is the following: my picking technique is such that I attack the strings from a very steep angle, at least perpendicular to the string and many times more than 90 degrees. So that creates a big cup inside my hand. I think this is a habit I have due to long and long years of classical guitar playing. In classical guitar you always need to maintain this cup, as if holding an orange in your hand.. Anyway, so that makes it hard for me to palm mute sad.gif


Oh, that is interesting about your classical guitar approach! Then you probably have very good habits. smile.gif I did notice that you rest your guitar on your left side. I just started playing this way too (with a foot stool) because it is more comfortable for me and I really like the neck angle.

Just a small suggestion: Have you tried just straight away chugging to this track with just an open E string? Might be a good way to get that natural feel of just plain palm muting without the distraction of accents and position shifts.


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post Dec 2 2012, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE (DeGroot @ Dec 2 2012, 06:15 AM) *
Just a small suggestion: Have you tried just straight away chugging to this track with just an open E string? Might be a good way to get that natural feel of just plain palm muting without the distraction of accents and position shifts.

That is an excellent suggestion DG smile.gif I will try that with this or with other tracks when I have difficulty with palm muting smile.gif Thanks for the help..


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post Dec 2 2012, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 1 2012, 09:19 PM) *
Thanks DG for the explanation smile.gif I will see if I can apply your technique. My problem is the following: my picking technique is such that I attack the strings from a very steep angle, at least perpendicular to the string and many times more than 90 degrees. So that creates a big cup inside my hand. I think this is a habit I have due to long and long years of classical guitar playing. In classical guitar you always need to maintain this cup, as if holding an orange in your hand.. Anyway, so that makes it hard for me to palm mute sad.gif


I think I know what you mean. So your thumb side is more inwards towards your guitar and your little finger side is further away from the guitar to ensure all notes ring out ? That's what I would have said looking at your videos. I think you can combat this either by altering the angle so your little finger side comes inward and your thumb a bit out... or if you moved the whole thing forward a little you could mute the bottom E with the big, fleshy part where your thumb joins the inner palm.. I think smile.gif


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post Dec 2 2012, 07:22 PM
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Hey,
I know it's not accurate enough, but that's where I am in this end of week-end.
Thank you Greg for your kind words.
I'll continue on with this, cause I really want to play it well.
Cheers

http://soundcloud.com/grindguer/lamb-of-god-style-riffing-1/s-ZjauA


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post Dec 2 2012, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (GrindGuer @ Dec 2 2012, 06:22 PM) *
Hey,
I know it's not accurate enough, but that's where I am in this end of week-end.
Thank you Greg for your kind words.
I'll continue on with this, cause I really want to play it well.
Cheers

http://soundcloud.com/grindguer/lamb-of-god-style-riffing-1/s-ZjauA


Blimey, that is not bad AT ALL ! Very, very good, Double G ! biggrin.gif

There was nothing that stood out as bad.. overall that was solid. If you keep going with this then you must update us because if you can get it even better than that, then you're doing very well indeed ! smile.gif


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