The Most Elaborate Recording Studio In Bucharest |
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Jan 16 2013, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jan 16 2013, 09:36 AM)  Looks great. Although, if it were me.. try and see if you can negotiate a slightly cheaper hourly rate without mastering (probably not possible as they're already at a reduced rate as it is) and get Tony to master it. Thank you Ben  .QUOTE I always think it's better to have different jobs done by different ears who specialise in those areas Totally agree with you on this Ben. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Jan 17 2013, 03:08 AM
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I gotta say man, that place is NIIIIIICCEEE!!!!! 50 Euro per hour seems like a great rate for place that spiff. Great gear, spiff layout, looks like a great place to create/record/etc. Good call!
Todd QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 11 2013, 05:47 AM) Thought I'd show you guys how the studio in which I recorded with Voodoo two years ago looks like and what sort of equipment it has. It's pretty much the nicest and the most well equipped recording studio in Bucharest. The prices for audio recording? - 50 Euros/ hour- price which includes recording, mixing and mastering. What do you guys think? http://www.isv.ro/EN/ |
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Jan 17 2013, 04:02 AM
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That place looks great! And with the right hands on the controls I'm sure it sounds great.
I don't know the specific economics of Romania but 50 Euros an hour in my opinion is a very good and standard ($67.00 US) price, especially since they have a really nice room - SO important to a good sound. Forget the gear for a minute. A well designed recording space is a huge part of the potentially great sound, the overall vibe/comfort and the expense. Is one or two more Neumanns or yet another 1084 gonna make or break the recording? No. Sure you can (and I'm speaking to anybody looking to record a 'band') find a place that'll only charge you 30 Euros (or less) an hour but will you be able to set up the entire band and have ISO'd vocals and guitars ... with the space to multiple mic multiple guitar cabs? *So many legendary albums from every era and compas point on the globe have been recorded at what many would label as 'sub-standard' and ill-equipped studios. Think classic Reggae records recorded in Jamaica. Or early Rudy Van Gelder (Blue Note and Riverside) discs done at his parents house. Or most of the SST collection. All you need is a good band, a decent space with decent gear and a guy who knows how to effectively use the gear he's got. Conversely - think about how many terrible records have been made at the 'best' studios and at great expense. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 17 2013, 08:52 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 17 2013, 11:34 AM
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Yes the sound stage is very important not least since if you screw up the recording it is very, very difficult to rescue the project at mixing or mastering. (A little OT - don't expect a mastering enginner to turn a bad mix in to a great one. There are limits to what we can do.) Its why most of the large professional recording studios have a variety of soundstages, if dfferent sizes for different types of recording sessions. Ultimately a great engineer will normally get better results with average equipment than an average engineer will with great equipment. A great engineer with great gear though should get stunning results. Many of the poor sounding commercial albums that were done by great pros in great studios are the result of production decisions and not a bodge by the engineer. At the end of the day we are expected to do what the producer wants as that is the 'chain of command'.
One of the interesting things about older, vinyl recordings is that all the stages would almost certainly have been done by experienced, specialist engineers. Back when I started you had different people working in a studio as the recording engineers, assistants, tape ops, balancing engineers, mastering engineers, lathe cutting engineers and so on. We all had to do a long training period before we were viewed as an engineer... Nowadays you often get one generalist, often with little real experience, trying to do everything. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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In Romania, until very recently, you would hear that most often with musicians as well as with sound engineers |
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Jan 17 2013, 05:03 PM
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I'm always happier if the 'producer' on a project was/is also an engineer.
They tend to understand the real possibilities as well as the real limitations of what's possible considering the environment, the situation, the band (the economics), etc. *I didn't mean to imply that an engineer was at fault with a bad record. Sorry, I was unclear about that. An album is the sum of it's parts. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 17 2013, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 17 2013, 04:03 PM) I'm always happier if the 'producer' on a project was/is also an engineer. They tend to understand the real possibilities as well as the real limitations of what's possible considering the environment, the situation, the band (the economics), etc. ... Same here. A lot of producers though seem to be someone whose experience is that they sang on some minor top 100 single once. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
Be friends on facebook with us here. We use professional, mastering grade hardware in our mastering studo. Our hardware includes: Cranesong Avocet II Monitor Controller, Dangerous Music Liasion Insert Hardware Router, ATC SCM Pro Monitors, Lavry Black DA11, Prism Orpheus ADC/DAC, Gyratec Gyraf XIV Parallel Passive Mastering EQ, Great River MAQ 2NV Mastering EQ, Kush Clariphonic Parallel EQ Shelf, Maselec MLA-2 Mastering Compressor, API 2500 Mastering Compressor, Eventide Eclipse Reverb/Echo. |
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Jan 18 2013, 10:16 AM
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In my experience there's a hugh difference between an indifferent producer and a good producer. The former tend to be opinionated but the opinions often lack substance and often are not practical or possible. The latter generally have some, often a very good, understanding of music composition and arrangement, they are aware of current music trends and have a lot of experience of the entire music production process including real hands on studio experience. They also have excellent communication and project management skills and excellent music industry contacts.
-------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
Be friends on facebook with us here. We use professional, mastering grade hardware in our mastering studo. Our hardware includes: Cranesong Avocet II Monitor Controller, Dangerous Music Liasion Insert Hardware Router, ATC SCM Pro Monitors, Lavry Black DA11, Prism Orpheus ADC/DAC, Gyratec Gyraf XIV Parallel Passive Mastering EQ, Great River MAQ 2NV Mastering EQ, Kush Clariphonic Parallel EQ Shelf, Maselec MLA-2 Mastering Compressor, API 2500 Mastering Compressor, Eventide Eclipse Reverb/Echo. |
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Jan 18 2013, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jan 18 2013, 09:16 AM) In my experience there's a hugh difference between an indifferent producer and a good producer. The former tend to be opinionated but the opinions often lack substance and often are not practical or possible. The latter generally have some, often a very good, understanding of music composition and arrangement, they are aware of current music trends and have a lot of experience of the entire music production process including real hands on studio experience. They also have excellent communication and project management skills and excellent music industry contacts. Both producers and engineers who at least played in bands for a little while have been the better ones - in my experience. *If you haven't already I'd suggest this 'read' ... http://www.mixerman.net/diaries1.php -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 18 2013, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 18 2013, 02:07 PM) Both producers and engineers who at least played in bands for a little while have been the better ones - in my experience. *If you haven't already I'd suggest this 'read' ... http://www.mixerman.net/diaries1.php Let's see what you got here for us in this article
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Jan 18 2013, 11:38 PM
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It's more of a soap opera (telenovela) really.
This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 19 2013, 01:04 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 19 2013, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 18 2013, 10:38 PM) It's more of a soap opera (telenovela) really. Didn't manage to read it yet - but after finishing my coffee I'll give it a go 
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Jan 22 2013, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 11 2013, 11:47 AM) Thought I'd show you guys how the studio in which I recorded with Voodoo two years ago looks like and what sort of equipment it has. It's pretty much the nicest and the most well equipped recording studio in Bucharest. The prices for audio recording? - 50 Euros/ hour- price which includes recording, mixing and mastering. What do you guys think? http://www.isv.ro/EN/ Wow that is really cheap compared to the prices here in the netherlands. |
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Jan 22 2013, 02:20 PM
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What sort of prices have you encountered snack?
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