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HungryForHeaven
post Jan 26 2013, 03:04 PM
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Ok, so I was talking with Slavenko and Gitarrero in the chat room, and we concluded that we needed a Manowar collab. Slav suggested the song Gloves of Metal as an inspiration, so I put a backing track together and uploaded to Soundcloud.
https://soundcloud.com/h4hgmc/or-no-gloves-at-all-backing

You are all invited to download the backing track, jam up a cool solo over it, record it (audio and video) and post the necessary files here no later than 17 February at midnight, London time.

The tempo is 76 bpm.

The backing consists of two sections, the first is in the key of Dm and the second in the key of Am;
D minor pentatonic or D blues should work fine over the entire piece.
For the more advanced, D minor works over the Dm section and A phrygian sounds cool over the Am section.

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- An audio file with your guitar track only
- A video file
- An audio file with your guitar track and the backing track mixed together (for reference)
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post Jan 26 2013, 03:18 PM
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heheh this is great! You finally started the USA true metal collab!! smile.gif I'll start jamming something over this one to see what appears!
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post Jan 26 2013, 08:56 PM
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post Jan 26 2013, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 26 2013, 03:18 PM) *
heheh this is great! You finally started the USA true metal collab!! smile.gif I'll start jamming something over this one to see what appears!
Amazing initiative!

I'm glad you like it, Gabriel. Team up with Todd or Cosmin and pull off the most immortal guitar duet of all times!

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I'll try to participate too! smile.gif

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post Jan 26 2013, 09:22 PM
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I might give this a shot...


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post Jan 26 2013, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 26 2013, 09:22 PM) *
I might give this a shot...

You'd better!
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post Jan 26 2013, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jan 26 2013, 09:22 PM) *
I might give this a shot...


What Manowar says " Heavy Metar or NO METAL at all..." , u know the rest of the quote wink.gif
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post Jan 26 2013, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Jan 26 2013, 02:04 PM) *
Ok, so I was talking with Slavenko and Gitarrero in the chat room, and we concluded that we needed a Manowar collab. Slav suggested the song Gloves of Metal as an inspiration, so I put a backing track together and uploaded to Soundcloud.
https://soundcloud.com/h4hgmc/or-no-gloves-at-all-backing

You are all invited to download the backing track, jam up a cool solo over it, record it (audio and video) and post the necessary files here no later than 17 February at midnight, London time.

The tempo is 76 bpm.

The backing consists of two sections, the first is in the key of Dm and the second in the key of Am;
D minor pentatonic or D blues should work fine over the entire piece.
For the more advanced, D minor works over the Dm section and A phrygian sounds cool over the Am section.

Files that you need to post
- An audio file with your guitar track only
- A video file
- An audio file with your guitar track and the backing track mixed together (for reference)


As a new boy, I wonder if you can explain a couple of things.

Do you pick someone's guitar work that you like and then work more with them or do you look for a rythm guitar part or riff or
lead or what? And everyone else drops out?
How do you guys make your recordings? Do you all use something like gearbox line 6 stuff?

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post Jan 26 2013, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jan 26 2013, 09:39 PM) *
As a new boy, I wonder if you can explain a couple of things.

Do you pick someone's guitar work that you like and then work more with them or do you look for a rythm guitar part or riff or
lead or what? And everyone else drops out?
How do you guys make your recordings? Do you all use something like gearbox line 6 stuff?

The newbie has to ask silly questions!

Hi Headbanger!

I'm not sure I understand your first questions. Do you mean what you would have to do if you decide to participate? Or what is usually done when starting a new collaboration? Could you please explain?

This recording has been made with Sonar (Digital Audio Workstation), guitar and bass plugged into the sound interface and modulated within the DAW with Guitar Rig 3.

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post Jan 26 2013, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Jan 26 2013, 08:49 PM) *
Hi Headbanger!

I'm not sure I understand your first questions. Do you mean what you would have to do if you decide to participate? Or what is usually done when starting a new collaboration? Could you please explain?

This recording has been made with Sonar (Digital Audio Workstation), guitar and bass plugged into the sound interface and modulated within the DAW with Guitar Rig 3.

Hi HungryFH
I wondered how the collaboration works, although I was just interested..I doubt I am ready to participate in the big league!
For example I noticed a few different people showed interest...Will you use everything that everyone does or do you all listen and choose which way it goes? I suppose it is discussed in the chat room?
I like to know how things work even if I'm not taking part!


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post Jan 26 2013, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jan 26 2013, 10:13 PM) *
Hi HungryFH
I wondered how the collaboration works, although I was just interested..I doubt I am ready to participate in the big league!
For example I noticed a few different people showed interest...Will you use everything that everyone does or do you all listen and choose which way it goes? I suppose it is discussed in the chat room?
I like to know how things work even if I'm not taking part!

Oh, I see now what you mean. The basic idea is to use everything, or close to everything. The backing track can be looped as many times as necessary so that all solos can be put one after another over it. Sometimes, especially if it's a long backing track and many participants, the organizer may chose only bits of each contribution and glue them together over one or two repetitions of the backing track.

Also, there is no such thing as not being ready to participate. We do this because it's fun and because we learn from it, anyone can participate regardless of playing style or level. I challenge you here and now, Headbanger - jam along, use your Hendrix passion or let yourself be influenced by anything, come up with something that fits the chords of the backing track, and hit the REC button. smile.gif

You just need to make sure that you can save your guitar track solo without the backing track, so that we can mix it in in the end.
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post Jan 26 2013, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Jan 26 2013, 09:25 PM) *
Oh, I see now what you mean. The basic idea is to use everything, or close to everything. The backing track can be looped as many times as necessary so that all solos can be put one after another over it. Sometimes, especially if it's a long backing track and many participants, the organizer may chose only bits of each contribution and glue them together over one or two repetitions of the backing track.

Also, there is no such thing as not being ready to participate. We do this because it's fun and because we learn from it, anyone can participate regardless of playing style or level. I challenge you here and now, Headbanger - jam along, use your Hendrix passion or let yourself be influenced by anything, come up with something that fits the chords of the backing track, and hit the REC button. smile.gif


Thanks HFH...That's what I like about this place GMC, so far...you guys rock!
The problem I have, is how to get my guitar sound into a computer..I have just a practise amp and guitars and computers...nothing to connect between...hence, my question earlier about Line 6 gearbox soft/hard ware or something similar. Any suggestions? (low budget).


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post Jan 26 2013, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jan 26 2013, 10:33 PM) *
Thanks HFH...That's what I like about this place GMC, so far...you guys rock!
The problem I have, is how to get my guitar sound into a computer..I have just a practise amp and guitars and computers...nothing to connect between...hence, my question earlier about Line 6 gearbox soft/hard ware or something similar. Any suggestions? (low budget).

I'm afraid I'm not the right person to help out here, but I'm sure someone on here can give some useful tips.
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post Jan 27 2013, 05:37 AM
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Hey Headbanger, I don't have any interface either. I use the line in port of my sound card to get my guitar's sound into the computer. I use (almost) all free stuff.

What you need is:

. DAW (Reaper is best in my opinion, its cheap and has a free 30 day trial without any limitations! http://www.reaper.fm/)
. A 1/8" male to male cable
. A 1/8" to 1/4" jack adapter
. ASIO4ALL drivers ( http://download.cnet.com/ASIO4ALL/3000-2120_4-75724497.html )
. Free VST plugins (Poulin plugins are free and THE BEST out there, but you need to experiment with them to get a good tone http://lepouplugins.blogspot.com/)

So you put the adapter on one of your ends of the 1/8" male to male cable. Put the adapter end in your guitar jack. Put the other end of your cable in the line in port of your sound card.

That should get your guitar's signal into your computer. If you're new to Reaper, I'd suggest watching some basics tutorial videos on youtube. After that, run Reaper, load a new track, arm it for recording, turn monitoring on and load your plugins to hear how it sounds.

Read these threads, they might help you out.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47581
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47608
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=35527
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47622

If you need any help, PM me, Todd Simpson or Sensible Jones. They know a lot about home recording! smile.gif

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post Jan 27 2013, 06:10 AM
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Nice!!! Look at him go!!!! smile.gif My friend, you have learned a TON and in short order! Well played smile.gif

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Hey Headbanger, I don't have any interface either. I use the line in port of my sound card to get my guitar's sound into the computer. I use (almost) all free stuff.

What you need is:

. DAW (Reaper is best in my opinion, its cheap and has a free 30 day trial without any limitations! http://www.reaper.fm/)
. A 1/8" male to male cable
. A 1/8" to 1/4" jack adapter
. ASIO4ALL drivers ( http://download.cnet.com/ASIO4ALL/3000-2120_4-75724497.html )
. Free VST plugins (Poulin plugins are free and THE BEST out there, but you need to experiment with them to get a good tone http://lepouplugins.blogspot.com/)

So you put the adapter on one of your ends of the 1/8" male to male cable. Put the adapter end in your guitar jack. Put the other end of your cable in the line in port of your sound card.

That should get your guitar's signal into your computer. If you're new to Reaper, I'd suggest watching some basics tutorial videos on youtube. After that, run Reaper, load a new track, arm it for recording, turn monitoring on and load your plugins to hear how it sounds.

Read these threads, they might help you out.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47581
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47608
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=35527
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47622

If you need any help, PM me, Todd Simpson or Sensible Jones. They know a lot about home recording! smile.gif



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post Jan 27 2013, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 27 2013, 05:10 AM) *
Nice!!! Look at him go!!!! smile.gif My friend, you have learned a TON and in short order! Well played smile.gif

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post Jan 27 2013, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Jan 27 2013, 05:37 AM) *
{very informative post}

See, there is always someone here able and willing to help out! smile.gif
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post Jan 27 2013, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Jan 27 2013, 04:37 AM) *
Hey Headbanger, I don't have any interface either. I use the line in port of my sound card to get my guitar's sound into the computer. I use (almost) all free stuff.

What you need is:

. DAW (Reaper is best in my opinion, its cheap and has a free 30 day trial without any limitations! http://www.reaper.fm/)
. A 1/8" male to male cable
. A 1/8" to 1/4" jack adapter
. ASIO4ALL drivers ( http://download.cnet.com/ASIO4ALL/3000-2120_4-75724497.html )
. Free VST plugins (Poulin plugins are free and THE BEST out there, but you need to experiment with them to get a good tone http://lepouplugins.blogspot.com/)

So you put the adapter on one of your ends of the 1/8" male to male cable. Put the adapter end in your guitar jack. Put the other end of your cable in the line in port of your sound card.

That should get your guitar's signal into your computer. If you're new to Reaper, I'd suggest watching some basics tutorial videos on youtube. After that, run Reaper, load a new track, arm it for recording, turn monitoring on and load your plugins to hear how it sounds.

Read these threads, they might help you out.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47581
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47608
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=35527
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=47622

If you need any help, PM me, Todd Simpson or Sensible Jones. They know a lot about home recording! smile.gif


Thanks Sammetal...thats the sort of thing I was looking for...I found a post last night from mrroberts70 (who has also kindly just sent me a PM with similar suggestions to you) called 'audio recording help' which someone else posted a video which explains how to record stuff to computer...all very helpful...although some of the software looks complicated..but like anything else once you've learnt it..
Cheers for your help...Rod

QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Jan 27 2013, 07:59 AM) *
See, there is always someone here able and willing to help out! smile.gif


Yes you're right HungryForHeaven!! Thanks... in hindsight I Should have browsed the forums a bit better as there is nothing worse than someone dragging up the same old stuff again and again when the answers are usually there already.
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post Jan 27 2013, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jan 27 2013, 10:29 AM) *
Yes you're right HungryForHeaven!! Thanks... in hindsight I Should have browsed the forums a bit better as there is nothing worse than someone dragging up the same old stuff again and again when the answers are usually there already.
Thanks!

So can we count on you? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 27 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Jan 27 2013, 10:40 AM) *
So can we count on you? biggrin.gif


If I can work out how to record myself..I can probably offer a little riff or minor pentatonic something..But don't expect anything special!!!!!!

BTW...Great job on the backing track...awesome! wacko.gif

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