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Jonas Tamas
post Feb 13 2013, 10:50 PM
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Being able to recognize the exact rhythmic pattern is really useful, not just in a band situation, but also during transcribing or learning existing songs. So for purposes of practicing this skill, I have chosen a short segment from Billy Cobham's "Red Baron".


Question:


What is the rhythm starting at 0:12, where the repeated segment begins?




http://soundcloud.com/jonastamas-hangmester/billy-cobham-red-baron-ritmus


For the first correct answer, I give out a special gift: the downloadable Timeless Hour Bonus Pack, with lots of goodies in there (TABs, full backing track, and a bonus track).


Answers can come via Guitar Pro or Tux files, or it can be define with words (e.g. 2 eighth notes, then 3 fourth notes...)
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post Feb 13 2013, 11:16 PM
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Good one!
I know this tune well. But I'm not sure if I wrote the rhythm correctly. Or whether I should write it in 4/4 or 2/4?
Except for JT - no peeking.
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[attachment=30661:Red_Baron_chart.JPG]


I've also never been satisfied with my assessment of the harmony (chords) in the last 4 (or 2) bars - ?

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post Feb 14 2013, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 13 2013, 11:16 PM) *
Good one!
I know this tune well. But I'm not sure if I wrote the rhythm correctly. Or whether I should write it in 4/4 or 2/4?
Except for JT - no peeking.
Spoiler:
[attachment=30661:Red_Baron_chart.JPG]


I've also never been satisfied with my assessment of the harmony (chords) in the last 4 (or 2) bars - ?



Thanks for your answer, Ken! I would use 4/4 for writing this.
The rhythm is a bit trickier than the one in your solution. It revolves around a specific number, which is
Spoiler:
the same number, as C lydian augmented would be in comparison to A melodic minor.


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post Feb 14 2013, 06:28 PM
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Lol!
Yeah, I had a feeling I was simplifying it a bit by not including the golden mean in there.

This maybe ...
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[attachment=30668:Screen_s...28.21_AM.png]


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Jonas Tamas
post Feb 15 2013, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 14 2013, 06:28 PM) *
Lol!
Yeah, I had a feeling I was simplifying it a bit by not including the golden mean in there.

This maybe ...
Spoiler:
[attachment=30668:Screen_s...28.21_AM.png]



You are on a good way to win the bonus package. One step closer, using the triplets:) It's a bit more tricky, though. Hint: there must be exactly 15 notes in this measure, and the 15th note is the G on the high E string.

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post Feb 15 2013, 01:47 AM
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Duh - oops, copying error. The final low G needs to be on the 1 of the next measure.


Thanks, I think I got it? I had to write a chart up for that really quick several years back and I knew it wasn't right. Funny, no one busted me on it. Good players too. I'm sure they knew the lick w/o having to read it and didn't really pay any attention.


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post Feb 15 2013, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 15 2013, 01:47 AM) *
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Duh - oops, copying error. The final low G needs to be on the 1 of the next measure.


Thanks, I think I got it? I had to write a chart up for that really quick several years back and I knew it wasn't right. Funny, no one busted me on it. Good players too. I'm sure they knew the lick w/o having to read it and didn't really pay any attention.



Yes, the low G is on the 1st beat of the next measure.

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post Feb 15 2013, 05:13 PM
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Your's is definitely still 'more' correct than mine with the 3 beam over the first set as well.
If you don't mind I'm actually going to adjust my chart with your rhythm figure.


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post Feb 15 2013, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 15 2013, 05:13 PM) *
Your's is definitely still 'more' correct than mine with the 3 beam over the first set as well.
If you don't mind I'm actually going to adjust my chart with your rhythm figure.


Yes, feel free to use it for your chart.


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