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post Feb 14 2013, 11:06 AM
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A new song we've just started learning

Very predictable sounding chord sequence

D Bm7 G
D/F# and then comes what sounds like a C,

Whilst it sounds good, I'm just wondering what 'theory rule' explains it

The best my feeble brain can come up with is it's actually a D9/C, but if it's just a C how do we explain it ?


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post Feb 14 2013, 12:11 PM
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Hey. That could be a diatonic chord if you are in the key of G major. If so, D would be V, Bm would be iii, G would be I and C would be IV. If the chord is D/C, then it would be a V7 chord with the 7th on the bass. Not sure if that is exactly it, but I would look at the song on G and all the chords make sense that way.


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post Feb 14 2013, 03:56 PM
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It's definitely in the key of D, sorry I should have mentioned that. It is a chord that pricks your ears up as it is 'out of key'

Here's the song (in B so the chord in question is an Eb)

It's in the last line of the chorus

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post Feb 14 2013, 05:09 PM
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Hi Posterboy! I'm a bit lost here, this song that you posted is in B major... what section are you talking about?


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post Feb 14 2013, 06:17 PM
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In pop music a b7 can absolutely be a 'resolve' chord. You can think of it as being modal to the key of D7 (D mixo).
Many examples of that in 'pop' music starting way back in the American (standards) song book. Harry Warren's 'I only Have eyes For you' (1934) is a good example. In fact the entire verse is Cmaj to Bbmaj.
Lot's of modal music has b7 resolve chord. A lot of Jewish music has a b7 MINOR resolving to a major I (Cm to D - which you can justify as HEAVILY altered V7).
Also iv minor is a beautiful resolve to a I maj. Just ask the Beatles and the Beach Boys (again this can be justified as heavily alt. V7).

*I know this is the theory section and I'm a HUGE advocate of knowing what you're doing but ultimately, if it 'sounds' good - it 'is' good.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 14 2013, 04:09 PM) *
Hi Posterboy! I'm a bit lost here, this song that you posted is in B major... what section are you talking about?



Sorry to confuse. we're doing it in D but the original is in B


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post Feb 14 2013, 08:22 PM
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Yeah, if you are in D and there is a C chord, that could be "borrowed" from Mixolydian, so you are taking a chord from D Mixolydian and using it in your D major chord sequence. Or, if it is D7/C, then you could be temporarily going to the IV key of G major, it depends on where the progression goes next after that chord that could determine what the chord is called.


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