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Cosmin Lupu
post Feb 17 2013, 11:38 PM
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I have started practicing a lot on the acoustic guitar alongside my voice, so that I may be able to sing better and play the guitar and one thing that I discovered was the joy of experimenting with new tunings involved by learning new songs smile.gif

One that caught my attention the other day was this one: C# G# C# F# B C# which I encountered in this song:



I think it's really beautiful and it suits this song so well!

What tunings have you encountered that you liked and in what songs?


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post Feb 18 2013, 12:49 AM
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To me the song Iris from Goo Goo Dolls is still one of ny favorite songs that would for sure not sound like that in a standard tuning!


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post Feb 18 2013, 02:10 AM
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I felt very impressed when I started analyzing Sonic Youth's alternative tunings in order to compose and record my Sonic Youth style lesson.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Indie-...IV-Sonic-Youth/

Check this tuning tutorial:
http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/tuning.html


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post Feb 18 2013, 10:18 AM
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Very nice! That one with the F#s looks interesting biggrin.gif

Also, Karnivool have used a sort of a hybrid tuning for their album called 'Themata' -> B F# B G B E <- a combo between drop B on the los strings and standard E on the high strings. Check it out in action in here:



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post Feb 18 2013, 12:04 PM
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I really like Tunings like that, gives some different approach in making songs.

I'll throw in some acoustic things here as my electric has a floyd biggrin.gif

C G D G A D and C G D G G D

Preston reed quite often uses stuff like this or the same tuned down a whole step, having the G string twice also works nice for some tapping licks (1st vid), this guy also really often tunes down the bass strings quite low, adds some nice independent bass sound to the songs.




currently working on rylynn by Andy McKee
E C D G A E with a partial capo on the 5th fret covering the lower 4 strings.
still wonder how ppl. come up with ideas like that biggrin.gif


when it comes to interesting tunings also check out Antoine Dufour, he hardly uses "normal" tunings at all smile.gif

example (D C# F# E A D)



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post Feb 18 2013, 12:49 PM
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I'm a DADGAD man, I can spend hours there that I've not ventured to any other tunings


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post Feb 18 2013, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (thefireball @ Feb 17 2013, 08:56 AM) *
Something I tried on my Drop A 6-string guitar was use Drop D. how? The tuning for Drop A is A E A D Gb B. I just dropped the E to D. Now I have Drop D. Now whenever I bar the ADA on the bottom, the chord voicing is different. I actually used the A D A D Gb B tuning on one of my songs for my upcoming EP.



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post Feb 18 2013, 03:10 PM
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I like the C# G# C# F# B C# tuning you've mentioned! It contains a beautiful 7sus4 voicing.

I've been always very impressed by the sound possibilities of the "Open C" tuning, used by Devin Townsend (C-G-C-G-C-E). The 7 string version is G-C-G-C-G-C-E - a beautiful low end.


He uses open B tuning, too: B F# B F# B D#




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post Feb 18 2013, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 18 2013, 06:18 AM) *
Very nice! That one with the F#s looks interesting biggrin.gif

Also, Karnivool have used a sort of a hybrid tuning for their album called 'Themata' -> B F# B G B E <- a combo between drop B on the los strings and standard E on the high strings. Check it out in action in here:




I have to pay more attention to this band...

on a side note, A perfect circle is coming to Argentina on April! I'm very happy. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 18 2013, 11:49 AM) *
I'm a DADGAD man, I can spend hours there that I've not ventured to any other tunings

I hear ya PB!!!

I also like straight open tuning's of G and D for slide.

I remember Neil Young had a song where he was tuned to EEEEEE!! In pairs, 2 low E's, 2 middle E's and 2 high E's!!
If I remember the song I'll post the youtube!
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post Feb 18 2013, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 17 2013, 11:38 PM) *
I have started practicing a lot on the acoustic guitar alongside my voice, so that I may be able to sing better and play the guitar and one thing that I discovered was the joy of experimenting with new tunings involved by learning new songs smile.gif

One that caught my attention the other day was this one: C# G# C# F# B C# which I encountered in this song:


I think it's really beautiful and it suits this song so well!

What tunings have you encountered that you liked and in what songs?


Nice tune Cosmin...it seems to be really effective on the acoustic. My 10 year old daughter is trying to accompany herself singing with her acoustic at the moment..Is something like drop D a good tuning for her so she doesn't have to worry about chord changes...the guitar interests her less than the accompaniment side at the moment....I was wondering if it might be easier if she just had to barre everything?
(I Don't want to hijack your thread BTW it just seemed relevant.)


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post Feb 18 2013, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (Headbanger @ Feb 18 2013, 06:05 PM) *
Nice tune Cosmin...it seems to be really effective on the acoustic. My 10 year old daughter is trying to accompany herself singing with her acoustic at the moment..Is something like drop D a good tuning for her so she doesn't have to worry about chord changes...the guitar interests her less than the accompaniment side at the moment....I was wondering if it might be easier if she just had to barre everything?
(I Don't want to hijack your thread BTW it just seemed relevant.)


Hey man, no hijacking at all wink.gif Drop D would be an idea indeed, although I don't think that it would be such a bad thing to try and show her the chords in the first positions - it'll serve her a lot smile.gif


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post Feb 19 2013, 01:06 AM
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This might be an obvious question but when you tune down from standard, how does that affect the vocalist? does a lower tuning help a vocalist who cant get the higher notes if you were in standard or does it not really make much of a difference to the vocals?



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post Feb 19 2013, 08:41 AM
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Oh man, trust me, the tuning makes a great difference smile.gif

As a singer, I can tell you that I can feel whenever a song is played lower or higher - but the important thing is, that a song will never sound the same if you just 'transpose'. A lower tuning means involving open strings in a song - once you don't have those in your song anymore, even if you have transposed it to a key where the voice feels comfy, the song will not have the same vibe, simply because you can't use the open strings any more smile.gif

You need to experiment and see what suits your voice and then use it smile.gif


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post Feb 19 2013, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 19 2013, 07:41 AM) *
You need to experiment and see what suits your voice and then use it smile.gif

suppose you were singing in standard but a couple of notes were a bit high for your voice, would tuning down a half or whole step help?


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post Feb 19 2013, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Feb 19 2013, 01:11 PM) *
suppose you were singing in standard but a couple of notes were a bit high for your voice, would tuning down a half or whole step help?


You have to see what the highest note you need to reach is and tune down so that you will be a half tone with your voice, below the limit - if you want to be on the safe side wink.gif You never know when you have a bad day and you can't reach your upper limit smile.gif At least this is what I do biggrin.gif


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post Feb 19 2013, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 19 2013, 01:26 PM) *
You have to see what the highest note you need to reach is and tune down so that you will be a half tone with your voice, below the limit - if you want to be on the safe side wink.gif You never know when you have a bad day and you can't reach your upper limit smile.gif At least this is what I do biggrin.gif

Yeah, I see what you mean, thanks. Im starting to try vocals on a couple of things..... I may need to experiment with a lower tuning wink.gif
its so much easier with a guitar!


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post Feb 19 2013, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 18 2013, 11:58 PM) *
Hey man, no hijacking at all wink.gif Drop D would be an idea indeed, although I don't think that it would be such a bad thing to try and show her the chords in the first positions - it'll serve her a lot smile.gif


Hi Cosmin, Thanks for that advice..After I asked you that, I thought it would be a bad idea to give my daughter the easy option..She already knows some basic open chords and does them well...its just hard to sing and concentrate on chord changes (like you discussed on another thread last week, I think). I will not tell her there is are different tunings(yet) because that would make her lazy...I'm glad I asked you though because you confirmed my thoughts...
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post Feb 19 2013, 05:44 PM
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Ive played around with different tunings in the past. Mainly Open G and C tunings and also a lapslide DADDAD tuning.

A fair few years ago I was really into sound garden and had a couple tab books from a friend. I was surprised at some of the tuning that were popping up in them. I fonud the notes i made about them and these were some of the cooler/wierder tunings that were there.

CGDGBE

CFCGBE

DADGBB

EEBBBB

and one with all E notes!

I remember think that this is just madness! why the hell would someone do this?? huh.gif Guess it shows in their style though.
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post Feb 20 2013, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Feb 19 2013, 03:14 PM) *
Yeah, I see what you mean, thanks. Im starting to try vocals on a couple of things..... I may need to experiment with a lower tuning wink.gif
its so much easier with a guitar!


What tuning does your voice feel most comfortable in? Have you managed to find out? smile.gif

QUOTE (Headbanger @ Feb 19 2013, 03:49 PM) *
Hi Cosmin, Thanks for that advice..After I asked you that, I thought it would be a bad idea to give my daughter the easy option..She already knows some basic open chords and does them well...its just hard to sing and concentrate on chord changes (like you discussed on another thread last week, I think). I will not tell her there is are different tunings(yet) because that would make her lazy...I'm glad I asked you though because you confirmed my thoughts...
Interesting thread.


There's also another thing - if she would use drop D for instance - she would still have to move her left hand horizontally over a larg portion of the neck - which in my opinion is far more difficult than staying in the first 3 positions and learning open strings chord shapes smile.gif Push her towards this a bit and see what she feels about it smile.gif Also, you can make sure she knows a few of them and you can then help her by transposing the songs she wants to learn so that she may use only those chords that she knows. When she will get the feeling of accomplishment, she will want more smile.gif

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Feb 19 2013, 04:44 PM) *
Ive played around with different tunings in the past. Mainly Open G and C tunings and also a lapslide DADDAD tuning.

A fair few years ago I was really into sound garden and had a couple tab books from a friend. I was surprised at some of the tuning that were popping up in them. I fonud the notes i made about them and these were some of the cooler/wierder tunings that were there.

CGDGBE

CFCGBE

DADGBB

EEBBBB

and one with all E notes!

I remember think that this is just madness! why the hell would someone do this?? huh.gif Guess it shows in their style though.


Man, Soundgarden are a bunch of uber awesome musicians - they as well as Alice In Chains have surpassed the 'grunge' phenomenon a long time ago - proof? They still exist, sound like they do but according to the age we all live in smile.gif Very interesting tunings indeed!


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