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Cosmin Lupu
post Feb 24 2013, 04:58 PM
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Sounds like 5/8 or 10/8 (I figured out the phrase and counted it as a whole so it makes more sense as 10 rather than 5)


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post Feb 24 2013, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 24 2013, 03:58 PM) *
Sounds like 5/8 or 10/8 (I figured out the phrase and counted it as a whole so it makes more sense as 10 rather than 5)


Yes.
I count it in 10/8 as well especially the quieter part but when it goes to the rock/shuffle part at 2:52 it's definitely 20/8.
I think of it like this ...
One bar of 12/8 (or 4/4)
One bar of 6/8
One bar of 2/8

Seems complicated, right? This is how I'm feeling it in my head ... | 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 | 1 - 2 | 1 2 |
six 1/4 notes and two 1/8 notes.
Here's a very rough sketch chart that I did a long time ago for it (just the individual sections):
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Top line is the acoustic guitar part.
The very bottom line is the bass line for the rock/shuffle.
Lines 3 and 4 are the 'melody' over the rock part.
And all the 'other' stuff is the transition/intro/outro sections.

P.S. This is another one that simply uses an E blues scale melody over some pretty cool chord voicings.

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Cosmin Lupu
post Feb 25 2013, 02:39 PM
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Totally awesome mate smile.gif It seems like you are a real Maha Orch connoisseur wink.gif I do believe it is my turn, so I will throw this one in:



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post Feb 25 2013, 05:34 PM
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Seems like it's mainly 7/8 (or 7/4, depending on how you count it). But there are measures with an extra beat in there. Maybe some 9/8 measures also?

P.S. Sure sounds like Tool smile.gif.


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post Feb 25 2013, 10:28 PM
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You got me Cos!
Maybe 13/8? I think I sometimes hear groups of 7 then 6.
Whatever it is I like it and bought it. Thanks!


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post Feb 25 2013, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 25 2013, 09:28 PM) *
You got me Cos!
Maybe 13/8? I think I sometimes hear groups of 7 then 6.
Whatever it is I like it and bought it. Thanks!


Hehe! That's about it Ken, they phrase like - 3 bars of 7/4 and a bar of 6/4 biggrin.gif I am a huge karnivool fan and I'm glad you like'em!

How about this one?



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post Feb 26 2013, 01:04 AM
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16/8?
I can't work out the count leading to the verse but then 15/8 in the verse?


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post Feb 26 2013, 08:22 AM
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15/8 indeed smile.gif and 6/8 in the middle biggrin.gif God, I forgot how much I loved the 'Themata' album. I more than excited thinking of what they will come up with this year biggrin.gif


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post Feb 27 2013, 09:18 AM
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Ok, Patrik - your turn mate!


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post Feb 27 2013, 02:08 PM
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post Feb 27 2013, 06:29 PM
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6/8 or 12/4 (8)? ... I kind of 'feel it in a big 2 though.

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post Feb 27 2013, 09:35 PM
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Correct, it changes between 6 and 12 beats and in a count of 12 accents often fall on 1-4-7-9-11. Sabicas was an amazing flamenco guitarist, his technique was faultless. I try to play a bit of flamenco but being self taught I have poor technique


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post Feb 27 2013, 10:15 PM
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Or maybe the accent are on 3-6-8-10-12 smile.gif told you I was self taught tongue.gif


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post Mar 1 2013, 09:52 AM
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So, who's gonna place a new one? smile.gif ..or should I? biggrin.gif



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post Mar 1 2013, 06:06 PM
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This one might be too easy being it's a classic prog tune ...



Same time sig but illustrating what a diference 'feel' makes ...



*This is gonna be it from me for awhile. I'm doing the musical 'Spamalot' for two weeks - it's keeping me pretty busy.
Hopefully I can check in a little bit though. This is a fun game (the guess the modes thread too). Cheers, - KL


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post Mar 4 2013, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Mar 1 2013, 06:06 PM) *
This one might be too easy being it's a classic prog tune ...



Same time sig but illustrating what a diference 'feel' makes ...



*This is gonna be it from me for awhile. I'm doing the musical 'Spamalot' for two weeks - it's keeping me pretty busy.
Hopefully I can check in a little bit though. This is a fun game (the guess the modes thread too). Cheers, - KL


got to say I still really need to check most of those classic prog solo projects.

quite confused about the "same time sig" thing on the vids you posted huh.gif

this is how far I got:
starting with 2nd vid cause it seems easier to me,
5/4 most of the time, switches to 6/4 (6/8?) from time to time and the ending is 4/4

the 1st vid was giving me more problems.
there are some big parts in 4/4 and one small passage in 5/4 (5:00 in the vid)
for the main riff thing I take a guess and say the phrase is all in all 19/16 or sth like that (pretty fast)
( 2 bars of 7/16 and one 5/16)

looking forward to see some other suggestions smile.gif

in any case here's another classic one


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post Mar 4 2013, 04:34 AM
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They're both mainly in 10/8. It's the main melody sections I'm referring to.
The first vid, "One of a Kind" is a straight rock feel in 10 (true, most of Holdsworth's two solos are in 4) and post the solos there's a new section. Start at :24 where the drums kick in. Part II starting at about 3:34 is in 5/4 (again with AH's solo in 4).
The second vid "Either End of August" is a shuffle in 10. Start at 0:56.
*These are both fantastic records. If you're into prog they are must haves!

'Service With a Smile' - 11/4
Or a bar of 6 and a bar of 5.

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post Mar 5 2013, 09:42 AM
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Awesome, gentlemen! Looks like you guys had fun while I was away from the thread, so, while Ken is away, who will be up for this one - not too difficult but nicely phrased smile.gif



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post Mar 5 2013, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Mar 5 2013, 09:42 AM) *
Awesome, gentlemen! Looks like you guys had fun while I was away from the thread, so, while Ken is away, who will be up for this one - not too difficult but nicely phrased smile.gif



6/8 ?
indeed nicely phrased and cool song.
also creepy stuff going on in the bass line of the chorus
need to listen to more soundgarden, also only recently discovered that the solo section in black hole sun is 9/4.

I still disagree on that 1st bruford vid being in 10/8, just feels a bit shorter than that.
can't clap 8ths straight through the main melody and stay on the beat.



another classic
referring to the section starting at 4:16
also quite strange guitar work there, using only like 2 different notes for the whole section biggrin.gif


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post Mar 5 2013, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (BTrian @ Mar 5 2013, 02:31 PM) *
I still disagree on that 1st bruford vid being in 10/8, just feels a bit shorter than that.
can't clap 8ths straight through the main melody and stay on the beat.


You're right BTrain! Big mea culpa. My mistake and my apologies.
It's 19/16.
Or count a bar of slow (1/2 time) 4/4 + 3/16 or 8/8 + 3/16

Is the Crimson (from 'Red') section in 13?

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