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leonard478
post Feb 28 2013, 12:28 AM
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Greetings all you beautiful people!, ive been noticing the way Andreas Oberg uses his pick, (Him and many many others)
Their picking hand doesnt touch the guitar at all, just the pick. I just started practicing this technique this week and its super awkward for now, was wondering if anybody had any insight or experience with this!
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post Feb 28 2013, 02:18 AM
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Ideally you should be able to play without anchoring. However, now and then, especially when your hand is tired, or late in a gig, you may find yourself anchoring. It's not a cardinal guitar sin IMHO smile.gif But do try to practice without doing it.


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Greetings all you beautiful people!, ive been noticing the way Andreas Oberg uses his pick, (Him and many many others)
Their picking hand doesnt touch the guitar at all, just the pick. I just started practicing this technique this week and its super awkward for now, was wondering if anybody had any insight or experience with this!



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post Feb 28 2013, 04:36 AM
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alt picking, the bane of my guitar playing


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post Feb 28 2013, 10:08 AM
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I like holding my fingers in the air, just because there are moments when I feel like my hand will tense up if I anchor my fingers on the body of the guitar, plus, when I pick I want to be able to use hybrid picking as well and thus my fingers need to be free smile.gif


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post Feb 28 2013, 10:30 AM
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My fingers are to short to anchor on the pickguard! so I have to float


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post Feb 28 2013, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 28 2013, 09:30 AM) *
My fingers are to short to anchor on the pickguard! so I have to float


Even better! smile.gif


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post Mar 1 2013, 04:09 PM
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The real truth behind this subject is that it really doesn't matter. Both approaches enable completely proficient and fast picking to the player.. the world of music is full of players who use both approaches so as always it comes down to veering towards what feels most natural to you and what enables you to get closer to what you're trying to articulate smile.gif


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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Mar 1 2013, 04:09 PM) *
The real truth behind this subject is that it really doesn't matter. Both approaches enable completely proficient and fast picking to the player.. the world of music is full of players who use both approaches so as always it comes down to veering towards what feels most natural to you and what enables you to get closer to what you're trying to articulate smile.gif

I use both, my pinky started hurting ( anchoring finger) when focusing on alt picking , so I thought that maybe learning the other way would help.
I am not proficient at alt. picking either way , but my hands switch between without me thinking about it so I am thinking if you can do both, they both have ups and downs,then you will naturally use what you need to
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post Mar 1 2013, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Mar 1 2013, 09:09 AM) *
The real truth behind this subject is that it really doesn't matter. Both approaches enable completely proficient and fast picking to the player.. the world of music is full of players who use both approaches so as always it comes down to veering towards what feels most natural to you and what enables you to get closer to what you're trying to articulate smile.gif


And this is why I love Master Higgins.

I play anchored. I've never been able to play floating. I've always been told that my technique, while still effective, was wrong. It's all up to the player in this instance. I firmly believe that.


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post Mar 1 2013, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (TreyDeschamp @ Mar 1 2013, 05:31 PM) *
And this is why I love Master Higgins.

I play anchored. I've never been able to play floating. I've always been told that my technique, while still effective, was wrong. It's all up to the player in this instance. I firmly believe that.


Hehe... never let anyone ever tell you that something is 'wrong' - even me ! smile.gif

Yeah, I think a lot of the argument used to be that anchoring fingers would somehow impede the back and forth flow of the hand but it's not true. If anything, anchoring mainly seems to help with guaging the depth of the pick as it hits the string. That's really where the difference lies, not in the actual picking 'force' itself. That's my observations anyway.

The angle of one's hand also has a bigger impact than many people realise. The angle of your hand dictates the direction that the pick strikes the strings so that can have an effect on whether your pick stays hitting the strings accurately or whether it hits and misses. And then the next factor is the angle of the pick itself and how you hold it.

But that's another story ! wink.gif

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post Mar 1 2013, 08:37 PM
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As I'm fond of saying "It's guitar playing not cards so there isn't really any cheating possible" some folks will tell ya planting is "cheating" but I"ve been told that sharpening my picks is cheating smile.gif

I actually anchor using the ring finger when my hand starts getting tired. Wads of guys use it as their standard way of picking. The only thing I"ve found that counts against it is that it can (for some players but not all, not me for example) impede when for example a lick goes from high E to Low E. Once you get used to it, it's fine, but at first, I've seen students who anchor dragging their finger along the body instead of angling the wrist and complain that they feel resistance on long runs using all strings.

So like many things it comes down to where you are as a player, what your trying to do, etc. I know it isn't all that helpful when you keep hearing "There isn't a hard fast answer to that question" since the questions that seem to need answering for a newer player can be things like

1.)What's the BEST way to get good quick?
2.)What's the BEST amp?
3.)If I do X technique/crutch, will it ruin my long term progress?

Part of learning an instrument, or anything is learning how to actually learn and learning to focus on progressing and practicing given what "is" (gear/time/ability).

So anchor away if it works, if it stops working for ya, you'll learn to work without it or "mostly" without it like I do smile.gif
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Hehe... never let anyone ever tell you that something is 'wrong' - even me ! smile.gif

Yeah, I think a lot of the argument used to be that anchoring fingers would somehow impede the back and forth flow of the hand but it's not true. If anything, anchoring mainly seems to help with guaging the depth of the pick as it hits the string. That's really where the difference lies, not in the actual picking 'force' itself. That's my observations anyway.

The angle of one's hand also has a bigger impact than many people realise. The angle of your hand dictates the direction that the pick strikes the strings so that can have an effect on whether your pick stays hitting the strings accurately or whether it hits and misses. And then the next factor is the angle of the pick itself and how you hold it.

But that's another story ! wink.gif


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post Mar 1 2013, 10:00 PM
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Thank you all for your wonderful replies smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 02:52 PM
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There's only a matter of personal choice - as Ben and Todd have clearly stated!

Saying that anchoring is right or wrong or that you are 'cheating' when playing an instrument, is like saying that Guthrie Govan is better than Michael Angelo Batio - because MAB is anchoring his hand smile.gif or that Marty Friedman has a bad right hand technique.

Try all approaches and see what feels best for you mate! Share your experiences with us and we will help in every way we can smile.gif


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