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leonard478
post Mar 12 2013, 06:42 AM
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Greetings my fellow guitar players, so i've learned this tune front to back, and on March 30th i will be performing it publicly, there are 3 or 4 parts in it that i just cant seem to perfect, Whats the way to go about perfecting such a difficult tune?

Ive tried isolating the parts over and over, slowing them down, etc, but the entire thing just doesnt seem to flow/click

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Cosmin Lupu
post Mar 12 2013, 10:14 AM
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Mate, I am a total stranger to Andy's technique - although I revere his mastery!

What I would do - I would try to see if I can sing (reproduce them with my voice) these parts and if I realized I could, it would mean, I have them in my system. Have you tried that? Also, how relaxed and able to anticipate all the parts and moves are you, when performing? Try performing in front of friends a few times before the show smile.gif Hope this helps man smile.gif


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post Mar 12 2013, 12:04 PM
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Another thing that I do when I'm working on a difficult piece is to take the most difficult parts and create variations as exercises to master that part. I isolate it, analyse what makes that part difficult and create or search for exercise to work on it. This exercises are usually played as a loop with metronome.


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post Mar 12 2013, 11:36 PM
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Thanks to both of you guys! i will try both of these ways! The singing along actually helps keep the flow very well! smile.gif


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Another thing that I do when I'm working on a difficult piece is to take the most difficult parts and create variations as exercises to master that part. I isolate it, analyse what makes that part difficult and create or search for exercise to work on it. This exercises are usually played as a loop with metronome.

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post Mar 13 2013, 04:22 AM
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I did this one a while ago,
don't have much more to add in case of general practice.
how did you learn it? (by ear, official tab, instructional vid)
and which parts don't flow that well yet?

for me the main problem on that song was precision on the technique itself.
you need quite some strength on the hammer ons and put them right in place to get the best sound and minimize the sound from the rest of the string.
also be sure to be aware of what both hands are doing at any time, I often ended up concentrating too much on one hand and the other one ended up only barely hitting the fret without being noticed, you still get the right notes but it sounds way less half-assed if everything is as clean as possible.


to get comfortable with that kind of stuff it might also help to practice some bits of other songs that use the whole over the neck tapping thing like e.g. the main part of that song or just build up some licks to practice on your own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oVzB0zRBU0
it's a bit faster than drifting but the main lick is actually quite simple when you get into it and helped much to build up endurance on tapping.









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post Mar 13 2013, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE (leonard478 @ Mar 12 2013, 10:36 PM) *
Thanks to both of you guys! i will try both of these ways! The singing along actually helps keep the flow very well! smile.gif


Glad it helps man - I am REALLY looking forward to see a video with this incredible piece performed by you smile.gif


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post Mar 13 2013, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Mar 13 2013, 07:45 AM) *
Glad it helps man - I am REALLY looking forward to see a video with this incredible piece performed by you smile.gif


Thanks man! video will be up in 2 weeks guaranteed smile.gif
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post Mar 13 2013, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (leonard478 @ Mar 13 2013, 07:19 PM) *
Thanks man! video will be up in 2 weeks guaranteed smile.gif


Pure awesomeness! What sort of an acoustic guitar are you wielding man?


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post Mar 14 2013, 03:16 AM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 12 2013, 11:04 AM) *
Another thing that I do when I'm working on a difficult piece is to take the most difficult parts and create variations as exercises to master that part. I isolate it, analyse what makes that part difficult and create or search for exercise to work on it. This exercises are usually played as a loop with metronome.

I understand what you are saying and it does work for me too. I try to keep it interesting and fun so as to relax and it isn't frustrating , eventually it all plays out well. Also, if it is such a hard lick, I put it aside and fudge it as you say, until it all falls in place. I have yet to try any Any Mckee.. besides, who am I going to jam with playing that stuff? laugh.gif
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (myhandyman @ Mar 13 2013, 11:16 PM) *
I understand what you are saying and it does work for me too. I try to keep it interesting and fun so as to relax and it isn't frustrating , eventually it all plays out well. Also, if it is such a hard lick, I put it aside and fudge it as you say, until it all falls in place. I have yet to try any Any Mckee.. besides, who am I going to jam with playing that stuff? laugh.gif



Andy's playing is so unique so it's really interesting to analyse it and to incorporate some ideas into you own style. Keep going! smile.gif


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post Mar 19 2013, 04:23 PM
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I was attempting to play this song also...cause of this unique combination of style, phrasing and technique. First thing I found was the trouble to hold the guitar in stable position while doing all the percussive hit. I came with idea that You could see closer to this issue. I had similar problems with getting all the parts done in 100% but I found that mentioned reason of flaws was the main problem. Waiting for Your video ! smile.gif

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